[Didymus Much]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

Says the guy who beats the living shit out of his wife?...

Whoa, where the H*** did that come from? If you base the rest of your ideas on as much evidence as you did that...

...I don't get your point here, I don't actually hate god, I just don't believe he exists... ...

Then why didn't you choose the name "I_Just_Don't_Believe_God_Exists"?

...But seriously, what's wrong with Belgians? (You can use me as an example if you like...

As I have very little experience with "Belgians in general" (I live in North America), I am going to use you an example. Don't you think that joining a Baptist Church's webforum with the name I_Hate_God is a little bit provocative and arrogant? How about accusing people you know NOTHING about of "beating the living shit out of their wives"?

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

Whoa, where the H*** did that come from? If you base the rest of your ideas on as much evidence as you did that...



Then why didn't you choose the name "I_Just_Don't_Believe_God_Exists"?



As I have very little experience with "Belgians in general" (I live in North America), I am going to use you an example. Don't you think that joining a Baptist Church's webforum with the name I_Hate_God is a little bit provocative and arrogant? How about accusing people you know NOTHING about of "beating the living shit out of their wives"?

You people seem to do so? The title of this thread kind of proves my point here... "Beating my pregnant wife" gives me a pretty good idea of how you True Christians handle your wives.

Why didn't I chose that name? It just doesn't have the same ring to it...

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

You people seem to do so? The title of this thread kind of proves my point here... "Beating my pregnant wife" gives me a pretty good idea of how you True Christians handle your wives.

You say all that like there's something wrong with following God's advice on how to keep them in line.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

You people seem to do so?...

So when are you going to start complaining about stereotyping?

... The title of this thread kind of proves my point here...

Am I the OP? Have I ever supported the OP's actions?

...you True Christians...

Look under my username. What does it say there?

...Why didn't I chose that name? It just doesn't have the same ring to it...

"Doesn't have the same ring" = "Wouldn't have marked me out as a prejudiced, arrogant, rude fuckwit as effectively".

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

So when are you going to start complaining about stereotyping?

I'm being stereotyped here? So it's wrong of me to do the same?

Am I the OP? Have I ever supported the OP's actions?

Look under my username. What does it say there?

No you have not and I must admit that I did not see that earlier, I don't really have a problem admitting that.

"Doesn't have the same ring" = "Wouldn't have marked me out as a prejudiced, arrogant, rude fuckwit as effectively".

Well, I guess you can put it that way... But as I said, it just doesn't have the same ring to it. Anyway, does it really matter what my name is? I chose the name to gain attention (yes, call me an attention whore all you want) because I am truly concerned with some people on this forum. I want to gain attention because I want people to hear what I have to say, and I want them to argue with me reasonably without any quotes from a 2000 year old book. I want to know what THEY think.

You say all that like there's something wrong with following God's advice on how to keep them in line.

Yes, that is exactly the way I am saying it. Also, if God advises you to beat your children, he's kind of an asshole...

[Didymus Much]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

I'm being stereotyped here? So it's wrong of me to do the same?...

How does that make you any better than them?

Ever dealt with little children? Do you accept, "But he hit me first", as an excuse?

...No you have not and I must admit that I did not see that earlier, I don't really have a problem admitting that...

But you a problem apologizing to the person you accused of "beating the shit out of their wife" with no evidence.

...without any quotes from a 2000 year old book. I want to know what THEY think...

Quotes from a 2000 year old book IS what they think.

...if God advises you to beat your children, he's kind of an asshole...

I thought you didn't believe He exists?

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

How does that make you any better than them?

I never said I was better than them?

But you a problem apologizing to the person you accused of "beating the shit out of their wife" with no evidence.

I am very sorry I accused you of beating your wife.

Quotes from a 2000 year old book IS what they think.

No, it's not. Whether they want to or not, they DO have their own thoughts. It is quite impossible not to think for yourself.

I thought you didn't believe He exists?

No, I don't. That's why I'm not planning to hit my children or my wife... But there's nothing wrong with believing in God. However, if he tells you to beat the people you love, he IS kind of an asshole.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

.......No, I don't. That's why I'm not planning to hit my children or my wife... But there's nothing wrong with believing in God. However, if he tells you to beat the people you love, he IS kind of an asshole.

Friend, no one plans to beat their wife or kids. That would be premeditated. It is assuming that your wife and kids are idiots and refuse to listen and follow the Word of God. Why would anyone have a wife or child that insolent? Tell me, do you plan to do stupid things or do they happen to you by accident?
No offense friend, I am just trying to get a handle on how people with empty, hollow, Godless lives think.

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

Friend, no one plans to beat their wife or kids. That would be premeditated. It is assuming that your wife and kids are idiots and refuse to listen and follow the Word of God. Why would anyone have a wife or child that insolent? Tell me, do you plan to do stupid things or do they happen to you by accident?
No offense friend, I am just trying to get a handle on how people with empty, hollow, Godless lives think.

No offense taken, I am just trying to get a handle on how you people think... If you are truly interested in knowing more about how I think you can always PM me, I will gladly answer any question.

Anyway, topic-related: Every True Christian here beats his wife and kids, or at least in the 10 topics I've read regarding the "issue". I've seen some examples of planning to beat them too actually now that you mention it. Especially in the topics concerning the sale of children.

I just don't quite understand why you would chose a wife which you are going to hit when she doesn't do exactly what you tell her to do? Are you not supposed to live your wife the way she is? My girlfriend (I'm no Christian so I don't need to be married to have sex ) does a lot of stuff I don't agree with. I don't really care, she is entitled to her own life and opinion, just like me.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

...No, I don't. That's why I'm not planning to hit my children or my wife...

You don't have to not believe in God in order to not beat your family.

How about not beating your family because it's just plain wrong?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

No offense taken, I am just trying to get a handle on how you people think... If you are truly interested in knowing more about how I think you can always PM me, I will gladly answer any question.

Anyway, topic-related: Every True Christian here beats his wife and kids, or at least in the 10 topics I've read regarding the "issue". I've seen some examples of planning to beat them too actually now that you mention it. Especially in the topics concerning the sale of children.

I just don't quite understand why you would chose a wife which you are going to hit when she doesn't do exactly what you tell her to do? Are you not supposed to live your wife the way she is? My girlfriend (I'm no Christian so I don't need to be married to have sex ) does a lot of stuff I don't agree with. I don't really care, she is entitled to her own life and opinion, just like me.

You see friend, if you had actually read the Bible, you would see why we have to use physical means with lesser beings. They are incapable of understanding otherwise. You use the rod when they make mistakes and kind words when they do well.
1 Peter 3:7
Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

It saddens me to hear you are with a whore. You will get diseased and God will smote you.
Ephesians 5-6:24
5 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
6 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;
3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
21 But that ye also may know my affairs, and how I do, Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things:
22 Whom I have sent unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.
23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

Think about it friend

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

You don't have to not believe in God in order to not beat your family.

How about not beating your family because it's just plain wrong?

Well of course that's the reason why you don't do it... Not sure why you are arguing with me about this?

You see friend, if you had actually read the Bible, you would see why we have to use physical means with lesser beings. They are incapable of understanding otherwise. You use the rod when they make mistakes and kind words when they do well.

That's the way you treat your dog, not the woman you love...

[James Hutchins]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

...........
That's the way you treat your dog, not the woman you love...

Of course you ignored the Bible verse I painstakingly fetched for you.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

...That's the way you treat your dog...

You beat your dog? You monster! You really should be locked away.

[I_Hate_God]

Re: Beating my pregnant wife

Of course you ignored the Bible verse I painstakingly fetched for you.

I read it, but it holds no meaning for me... I don't care what the Bible says, I am not going to hit the woman I love. I don't believe in Heaven so why should I be concerned about getting there?

If my girlfriend (I shall call her by name, which makes things a lot easier), Lize, does something I do not approve, I will forgive her, take her in my arms and cherish every moment that we have together... I will not hit her, I will not force her to my will, because she is beautiful just the way she is. Her actions and the choices that she makes are not mine to control. She does not live to please me, neither do I live to please her... I love her for all that she is, and she does the same for me.

If this feeling is unknown to you, if you can not find the strength in your heart to love your wife as much as I love Lize... I just feel sorry for you, for it is the best feeling in the world. And even if you are right and it is the devils work and I shall rot in hell because of it, I wouldn't want to miss that feeling for the world.