John 8:32

**Rachael Van Helsing** · 10-26-2008, 10:56 AM

Re: John 8:32

So...uh...what exactly is your point?

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 10-26-2008, 10:59 AM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by TheTruthmonger View Post

John 8:32
The truth shall make you free.

God is real, HE is not a man, HE is not earthly, HE is divine.

For those who take the words in the Bible for their literal meaning have strayed from the true path.

God is the good in all people. God is what makes a child dressed in goth clothing give some money to someone in need. God is what makes the black man, dressed in cheap clothing hold a door for a woman with a stroller. God is what makes a wealthy man volunteer.

The devil is what makes people fight. The devil is what makes people judge others based on their beliefs, their skin color, their unfamiliar religion. The devil is what makes good Christians blind to the truths of this world. Everything unknown in this World is explainable by science. We are not the literal creations of God.

God is the good in all people, Jesus was not his son but the one who truly understood the Truth.

The devil is the evil in all people. He makes us blind to the Truth by turning us against each other.

All those who don't know the Truth of what I am saying in on the way to eternal damnation by his fellow man.

Can you back up even one word of that in scripture?

I thought not.

Take a look at THIS thread for new posters like yourself. Also THIS sermon might do you a world of good.

**TheTruthmonger** · 10-26-2008, 11:29 AM

Re: John 8:32

I don't take the Bible for its literal meaning, so backing up what I said with scripture is useless.

Have fun is Hell.

**Wide-Open** · 10-26-2008, 11:34 AM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by TheTruthmonger View Post

Have fun is Hell.

Are you a retard?

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 10-26-2008, 11:36 AM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by TheTruthmonger View Post

I don't take the Bible for its literal meaning, so backing up what I said with scripture is useless.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

Originally posted by TheTruthmonger View Post

Have fun is Hell.

I think you're going too far. Some kinds of fun may lead to sin and hellfire, but there is plenty of good clean Godly fun that one can have.

**Ezekiel Bathfire** · 10-26-2008, 12:38 PM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by TheTruthmonger View Post

John 8:32
The truth shall make you free.[...] All those who don't know the Truth of what I am saying is on the way to eternal damnation by his fellow man.

Firstly, the road to damnation is not by your fellow man, it is God's decision.

Secondly, and more importantly for this world, it seems to me that you have set yourself up as the only true arbiter of God's Word. I'm reading your scribblings and seeing someone who claims to understand The Ineffible God of Mysteries; you have attributed God's presence without the slightest evidence from Scripture.

Let us look at the preceding verse and your verse together:
Joh:8:31: Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh:8:32: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

It makes a little more sense, now doesn't it?

Son, the Bible warns against false prohets,
M't:7:15: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

**Unfalsifiable** · 10-29-2008, 07:49 PM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by TheTruthmonger View Post

I don't take the Bible for its literal meaning, so backing up what I said with scripture is useless.

Have fun is Hell.

Why do you take the Bible for anything if you don't take it for what it actually says?

**Mrs. Mary Whitford** · 10-29-2008, 08:02 PM

Re: John 8:32

How odd. You start this thread quoting a piece of scripture (The full text of which is And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free so if you're going to leave out part of it, the correct way to present it is [T]he truth shall make you free to show that you didn't start with the actual beginning of the sentence), then you denounce scripture.

**~~Buckminster Carlson~~** · 10-29-2008, 08:06 PM

Re: John 8:32

That is rather odd. Did you notice the way he just up and left too? He didn't even stick around to defend himself.

**Pastor Isaac Peters** · 10-29-2008, 08:16 PM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post

How odd. You start this thread quoting a piece of scripture (The full text of which is And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free so if you're going to leave out part of it, the correct way to present it is [T]he truth shall make you free to show that you didn't start with the actual beginning of the sentence), then you denounce scripture.

I noticed that, too, Sister. Hey, Truthhater, if Scripture isn't to be read literally, that applies to the fragment that you cited, no?

**~~Buckminster Carlson~~** · 10-29-2008, 08:40 PM

Re: John 8:32

If he thinks that the Bible doesn't apply, doesn't that mean that he can't ever be saved?

**Rev. M. Rodimer** · 10-30-2008, 10:31 PM

Re: John 8:32

Originally posted by Buckminster Carlson View Post

If he thinks that the Bible doesn't apply, doesn't that mean that he can't ever be saved?

It sure does, Mr. Carlson!

I wonder why Fishmonger isn't back to share more of his glowing wisdom with us?

Probably off voting for O'Sambo.

John 8:32

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