Was Judas ever forgiven?

[Seawitch]

Was Judas ever forgiven? I tried very hard to get this question to Pope Rat-slinger himself, seems he's shy? OK, I've never heard an Xian suggest that Judas was ever forgiven......I find this remarkable because:Xianity is about forgiving(?) No betrayal would have meant no Crucifixion, no crucification no Martyr, no Martyr Xianity thereafter! Indirectly the Xian faith is down to Judas, without him J.C would have been just another forgotten faith healer/preacher of his time.

[Brother Temperance]

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Was Judas ever forgiven? I tried very hard to get this question to Pope Rat-slinger himself, seems he's shy?

Why would you ask him a question about Christianity? Frankly, the Pope stands less chance of getting into Heaven than Judas does.

OK, I've never heard an Xian suggest that Judas was ever forgiven......I find this remarkable because:Xianity is about forgiving(?)

It's about forgiving those who repent. Did Judas repent?

No betrayal would have meant no Crucifixion, no crucification no Martyr, no Martyr Xianity thereafter!

And without your harlot ancestor Eve, there'd have been no sin for Jesus to die for. Should we thank her as well?

Indirectly the Xian faith is down to Judas, without him J.C would have been just another forgotten faith healer/preacher of his time.

No, He'd still have been the Son of God. And you'd still be a nincompoop.

[Seawitch]

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And without your harlot ancestor Eve, there'd have been no sin for Jesus to die for. Should we thank her as well?

YES!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Was Judas ever forgiven? I tried very hard to get this question to Pope Rat-slinger himself, seems he's shy? OK, I've never heard an Xian suggest that Judas was ever forgiven......I find this remarkable because:Xianity is about forgiving(?) No betrayal would have meant no Crucifixion, no crucification no Martyr, no Martyr Xianity thereafter! Indirectly the Xian faith is down to Judas, without him J.C would have been just another forgotten faith healer/preacher of his time.

You know as much about Christianity as my pitbull.

Yes, Jesus can and will forgive most sins (I say most, because there is one unforgiveable sin that will under NO circumstances be forgiven), but that forgiveness is not automatic. Without SINCERE REPENTANCE, there can be no forgiveness, no Salvation(c).

Judas was a typical money-grubbing joo who sold Jesus down the river, which is bad enough, but then he followed that up by killing himself. No forgiveness is possible if you can't ask for it, and there are no provisions in the Word of God for being pre-forgiven, so the answer to your question is:

NO.

Now why don't you crawl back into the cave you slithered out of.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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Jesus said Judas should have been aborted for his own sake:

"The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born." -Matthew 26:24

Doesn't sound very forgiving to me.

[Brother Temperance]

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Jesus said Judas should have been aborted for his own sake:

"The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born." -Matthew 26:24

Doesn't sound very forgiving to me.

Godly point, Brother. There's no place in Heaven for the so-called "pro-choicers".

[Seawitch]

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Without SINCERE REPENTANCE, there can be no forgiveness, no Salvation©.

Judas was a typical money-grubbing joo who sold Jesus down the river, which is bad enough, but then he followed that up by killing himself. No forgiveness is possible if you can't ask for it,

I would have thought his suicide was the extreme expression of regret...repentance.
I wouldn't have thought that forgiving depended on surviving.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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I would have thought his suicide was the extreme expression of regret...repentance.
I wouldn't have thought that forgiving depended on surviving.

My Nephew Zebulun passed the opinion that Judas was just trying to get to heaven before God found out what he's done. I can't say that I recall this from scripture and it does seem unlikely but it is a point you may wish to consider.

[JennyD]

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I would have thought his suicide was the extreme expression of regret...repentance.
I wouldn't have thought that forgiving depended on surviving.

Is committing murder OK, TeenWitch?

God decides when we die. Unless we are engaged in warfare or a legal execution, killing someone (an unborn baby, an old lady who just cashed her pension check, or yourself) is murder.

Murder is a sin.

If you have murdered yourself, then you have committed a sin and are unable to repent of the sin. Therefore, you die in sin . . . unforgiven, and Hellbound.

Get it now?

[John Bois Ward]

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I would have thought his suicide was the extreme expression of regret...repentance.
I wouldn't have thought that forgiving depended on surviving.

Judas killed himself out of regret. When he finally became conscious that Jesus was the Son of God, Judas realized he could have jewed up the price from a mere thirty pieces of silver– the price of a slave.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Typical heathen mistake. They confuse "SINCERE REPENTANCE" with "feeling sorry."

Not the same.

[Don the Baptist]

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1 - Was Judas ever forgiven?
2 - I tried very hard to get this question to Pope Rat-slinger himself, seems he's shy?
3 - OK, I've never heard an Xian suggest that Judas was ever forgiven......I find this remarkable because:Xianity is about forgiving(?) No betrayal would have meant no Crucifixion, no crucification no Martyr, no Martyr Xianity thereafter!

1 - NO. He never fell down at the cross of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and asked forgiveness for his transgressions. Therefore he was NOT covered in the blood of the Lamb and therefore is NOT saved.
2 - Don't waste your time - the chief catlick boy buggerer don't know his hiney from a holy water font.
3 - Stop being disrespectful you jackass! Do NOT attempt to take "Christ" out of Christian.

[Brother V]

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Bretheren, you all seem to be forgetting that when Judas betrayed Jesus, he wasn't acting of his own accord. Judas was possessed by Satan himself.


Luke 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

This was just before the Last Supper. We aren't told exactly when Satan left Judas, but it must have been before he got back for the Last Supper. Judas had no idea what he was doing, he was just a shell of a body, that Satan was using to tell the priests and others about where Jesus was.

4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

Satan HAD to have left Judas at some point; and Judas probably woke up out of his trance, wondered where he was at, then went to go back to the Last Supper.

Then Jesus tells of the betrayal.

21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

You'll note, it's the HAND of him, not the SPIRIT of him.

31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

So, why didn't Jesus pray that Judas wouldn't be taken?

The answer is clear. Without Judas, Jesus would have never been crucified. Without that, we non-Jews wouldn't have a chance at eternal salvation.

Judas later found out about what his body did, and that's why he repented and killed himself (or maybe didn't).


Judas didn't really do anything that needed forgiveness, as HE never betrayed Jesus. In fact, betrayal is a bad word. A better word would be catalyst.

And Jesus said, one of you will be the catalyst that will begin the process of my crucifiction, which will allow the world to be saved. This guy is very very very important. Praise Me for him.


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