[John Bois Ward]

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But it is the unjust killing of a helpless animal, which I'm pretty sure God would frown upon.

So you're a tree-hugging vegetarian too?

[DaBear]

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And so far, young furry one, you have only succeeded in spouting gibberish and making yourself look foolish.

Please understand that we do not have any misconceptions. In fact, since we rely wholly and unalterably on the AV1611 King James Bible™, which has been preserved without error by God Himself, one could hardly claim we even make errors of doctrine. We believe every word of it, you see. If one of us misunderstands a passage, we have pastors and deacons (dozens of them) to help set us right.

If you think we are incorrect in a point of doctrine, even though this is not a debate site, I'd be glad to point out your error.

In Christ,
Warren

First, I would like to state my amusement at how you addressed me.

Second, you accuse me of spouting gibberish, yet I severely doubt you read my original post which was NOT an attack on your religion, I have never said you were wrong in your interpretation of the Bible simply because, I admit, you all probably know the Bible better than me.

[DaBear]

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What in the world are you yammering about?

But it is a lie. Catholicism is not Christianity.

Catholics worship Mary, and scores of "saints" who are just renamings of pre-existing pagan demons. They also pray to crackers, and imagine themselves to be cannibals. They think their priests have the power to force Jesus to come from Heaven and enter a "death cookie", so they can eat Him!

Call it what you will, but you cannot deny the fact that all Christian religions are the offspring of early Catholicism. Know your history. At first, Christianity was all under one branch of Christianity, Catholicism. Eventually there was some dissent within the Church and the first Protestant branch was created. As time went on more and more groups began to break off from the Catholic Church and create new forms of Christianity, one of which being Baptist.

I also kindly request that you do not bash my religion, as I have not bashed yours.

I have only commented on some disagreements I have with your misconceptions about what others have said. I have never once brought up a disagreement I have with your interpretation of the Bible.

[DaBear]

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Despite future evidence to the contrary, you will remain set in your beliefs? But here you are, picking fights with us because of our unwavering beliefs. I guess you are unwilling to provide the same consideration that you provide yourself - a typical atheistic mannerism. Obviously you are unaware of the ekpyrotic scenerio, which can be explained through quantum mechanics (science). For an atheist, you sure are ignorant of your own belief system.

Again, as I have said COUNTLESS times, I AM NOT DISPUTING WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR BELIEFS. Read my first post. I actually applaud those who have unwavering beliefs, it takes a strong mind and personality to not have your beliefs change. Though I may disagree with your beliefs, I applaud you for being unwavering in them.

Also, I am not an athiest.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Again, as I have said COUNTLESS times, I AM NOT DISPUTING WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR BELIEFS. Read my first post. I actually applaud those who have unwavering beliefs, it takes a strong mind and personality to not have your beliefs change. Though I may disagree with your beliefs, I applaud you for being unwavering in them.

Also, I am not an athiest.

Oh, so because you are "not an athiest" that gives you the right to bear false witness to their insane beliefs? You get so sensitive about having your own beliefs challenged yet feel free to misrepresent all others.

We TRUE Christians™ know the Darwinist agenda. That's why they steer clear of us.

And again we are back to your false God of the gaps. Science can't explain something doesn't prove God exists. All that proves is scientists don't know something. We TRUE Christians™ know God exists because He tells He does in The Bible and He tells us He created the world. That is proof.

[DaBear]

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So you're a tree-hugging vegetarian too?

So because I personally am disgusted by animal abuse and think that killing animals for non-utilitarian purposes(aka killing for sport, though much of hunting I do not classify as non-utilitarian because many times it is actually used to help protect the ecological balance) is wrong it makes me a tree-hugging vegetarian?

I, for one, loooooooove beef.

And as for the tree-hugging, I guess you could say that in the vaguest sense of the term. I do believe that we have contributed to global warming, but much of it is part of the natural cycle of the Earth. We will not know what our actions have done to the Earth for hundreds of years, if not thousands. Its too early to say one way or the other, but based on the evidence I believe we have contributed to global warming.

[DaBear]

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Oh, so because you are "not an athiest" that gives you the right to bear false witness to their insane beliefs? You get so sensitive about having your own beliefs challenged yet feel free to misrepresent all others.

We TRUE Christians™ know the Darwinist agenda. That's why they steer clear of us.

I have not beared false witness. I understand your religion. I am simply saying I do not agree. But that is not what I came here to point out. If you would read my original post you would see it has nothing to do with criticizing your religion.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I have not beared false witness. I understand your religion. I am simply saying I do not agree. But that is not what I came here to point out. If you would read my original post you would see it has nothing to do with criticizing your religion.

That fact that you don't believe the same as us is an attack up God.

[Larry Lee]

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Call it what you will, but you cannot deny the fact that all Christian religions are the offspring of early Catholicism. Know your history.

Look, Mr. Bear, you're a little young and still in need of learning, such as about the history of Christ's Bride, the Church... See what you can find out about such topics as the Great Schism and the Eastern Rite. Catholicism has no claim to being God's first -- or favorite -- Church, as your post suggests it does.

But that's small stuff.

Clearly you're here for a reason. Will you admit to yourself what it is?

[John Bois Ward]

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Again, as I have said COUNTLESS times, I AM NOT DISPUTING WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR BELIEFS.

You have done nothing but attack us since you started posting on this forum uninvited:

You all obviously do not grasp how the United States Government works.

You call us ignorant.

I have seen some of the most racist and hateful things I have ever seen posted by your "respected" members.

You have attacked our posts, which are our attempt to place into words our beliefs.

I am not a creationist, I believe in evolution...I believe in science up until the big bang...

You attack the inerrant Word of God with your science.

You seem to forget that each and every branch of the religion of Christianity has a different interpretation of the Bible and does not believe in the same exact things as another. To you any one from any branch of Christianity that is not Landover Baptist has turned their back to Christ.

You devalue our beliefs by equating our Church with other churches. Despite your atheistic value system, not everyone can be right. Either our Church is The True Church or it is not.

I certainly don't agree with you, but I did not come here to dispute your beliefs, I came here to point out some misconceptions I saw in your posts and to correct them.

Calling us ignorant again and being presumptuous enough to think that we want you to correct us.

Call it what you will, but you cannot deny the fact that all Christian religions are the offspring of early Catholicism. Know your history.

Again with calling us ignorant and calling our faith some bastard offspring of the papists.

Also, I am not an athiest.

You seem to be an atheistic troll spewing hatred.

[DaBear]

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I have not been "spewing hatred" as you claim. I understand that because my beliefs differ from those of yours you are compelled to "save" me as in your doctrine. I was hoping you all would understand that I am set on my beliefs and would give up on the "saving" me aspect and would just have this peaceful debate. Obviously, I was expecting too much, and with that I bid this forum adieu. I would like to thank those that at least made an attempt to either respond relevantly to my original post or be civil with me. Thank you to Nobar King, Talitha, Mad Prophet Helmholtz, Godislove, and especially Larry Lee.

[ToBeSaved]

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Thank you Brother V. After all the blood I have spilt for Jesus it is really too much to have this young little snot nosed, video game playing punks harass me. However Jesus guides me to forgive them. GLORY! old

I think you mean "Thank you Brother V. After all the blood I have spilt for Jesus, it is really too much to have this young little snot nosed, video game playing punk harass me. However, Jesus guides me to forgive them. GLORY!"

It's hard to read your intended message when I'm so distracted by spelling and grammar errors. I'm just trying to help a fellow Christian be more apt in spreading the word of God.

[Dr. Warren Wierdsbe]

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First, I would like to state my amusement at how you addressed me.

Second, you accuse me of spouting gibberish, yet I severely doubt you read my original post which was NOT an attack on your religion, I have never said you were wrong in your interpretation of the Bible simply because, I admit, you all probably know the Bible better than me.

So, Fuzzy Wuzzy, I HAVE read your original post (as confused and demanding as it was) and never claimed you were attacking my "religion." I don't have a "religion," which is something devised by mankind to provide a soporific to the masses and control them. I have Jesus Christ and his AV1611 King James Bible(TM) which is another thing entirely. It's true, real, inerrant, and infallible.

And yes, we know the Bible better than you do. We believe every word of it, so if you think we are mistaken, it's obvious that you think God in his Inerrant Word is also mistaken. So what is the problem you have?

In answer to another post, you spouted a whole sack of "church history" which is basically Roman Catholic propaganda. Contrary to popular Catholic teaching and belief, Peter was not the first Pope. To the contrary, early Christians met in homes and dining halls, hiding from authorities (both Jooish and secular) because they were persecuted for their beliefs, much as we are today.

"Catholic" means "universal" and was applied to the professional church by the emperor Constantine in 313 AD. All the apostles and those who knew Jesus (the man, God incarnate) were long dead. The Roman Catholic church grew out of a need to control and regulate the churches, something Jesus would have spun in his grave over, had he still been there.

No, the real "Church" was the Body of Christ(TM) that met in hiding, and in the catacombs of Rome. They were Baptists, for they had Baptist beliefs, and although only called themselves believers, were originally taunted with the name "Christians (Little Christs)" and later "Baptists" which came from "Anabaptist (Rebaptizer) on their insistence that those "baptized" as infants needed to be baptized again when they made a true confession of faith.

Open your eyes, Ursa. Your interest encourages me. But you have to let the scales fall from your eyes. Look at what your church has taught you with a better perspective. Question its authority and its version of history. You will be surprised, and perhaps hurt a bit, but you will learn.

In Christ,
Warren

[Dr. Warren Wierdsbe]

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I think you mean "Thank you Brother V. After all the blood I have spilt for Jesus, it is really too much to have this young little snot nosed, video game playing punk harass me. However, Jesus guides me to forgive them. GLORY!"

It's hard to read your intended message when I'm so distracted by spelling and grammar errors. I'm just trying to help a fellow Christian be more apt in spreading the word of God.

Well, you are just being mean. I suppose you have never made a typographical error or been typing after taking communion wine.

In Christ,
Warren

[ToBeSaved]

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I thought it was Christ's blood.