[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

HeathenBasher's arguments against atheism are so riddled with fallacies that they appear to be a graduate class on logical arguments. Swaying someone who finds these fallacious arguments convincing is a fool's errands. Why do I spend so much time on something so far off the track of reason? Probably for the same reason I think I might enjoy shooting fish in a barrell.

I also like the idea that I am lending support to other atheists on this blog, especailly 19-year old virgin MariaVanRooijen. Her logic is impeccable and the responses to her logic are just as banal as the original arguments.

I will make just one claim: We owe our moral codes not to any religion but to evolution.

That's all folks (for now).

72-year old Dave

We have morals because we are made in the image of God. Imagine that I have a switch in front of me. If I flick the switch I recieve a £1000 but a stranger in China dies. I would not flick the switch because the Law of God 'thou shall not kill (unless instructed by God) tells me not to. Why would evolution stop me from doing it? It would make myself and my tribe 'fitter' and more likely to survive wouldn't it?

YIC

Jack

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[davidbrainfart]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

HeathenBasher's arguments against atheism are so riddled with fallacies that they appear to be a graduate class on logical arguments. Swaying someone who finds these fallacious arguments convincing is a fool's errands. Why do I spend so much time on something so far off the track of reason? Probably for the same reason I think I might enjoy shooting fish in a barrell.

I also like the idea that I am lending support to other atheists on this blog, especailly 19-year old virgin MariaVanRooijen. Her logic is impeccable and the responses to her logic are just as banal as the original arguments.

I will make just one claim: We owe our moral codes not to any religion but to evolution.

That's all folks (for now).

72-year old Dave

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Nobody who does a murder is a Christian ipso facto

The atheist would not distinguish between murder and a life boat, aiming as he does to destroy the spirit of the whole world.

JONAH 1
13 Neuerthelesse the men rowed hard to bring it to the land, but they could not: for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous against them.
14 Wherefore they cried vnto the Lord, and said, We beseech thee, O Lord, We beseech thee, let vs not perish for this mans life, and lay not vpon vs, innocent blood: for thou, O Lord, hast done as it pleased thee.
15 So they tooke vp Ionah, and cast him foorth into the sea, and the sea ceased from her raging.
©1611

[A Follower]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

I looked up the second guy (Sampson Kanderayi):

A negro from Zimbabwe we killed to appease evil spirits.

In other words a wiccan, not a Christian.

[Repentant]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

'"There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history."

David Berkowitz: Killed 6 people, wounded 7 others. Renounced Judaism at a young age, converted to Baptism. Became a Born-Again Christian while in prison.

Sampson Kanderayi: AKA the "Ax Killer". Murdered 30 people. A Christian.

Coral Eugene Watts: May have murdered as many as 80 women and girls. He was a Christian who supposedly murdered to get rid of evil spirits.

Jeffrey Dahmer: Born-Again Christian who murdered 17 men and boys and cannibalized their remains.

Donald Miller: Raped and murdered four women. Conservative Christian who always carried a bible.
Yes, but that doesn't matter. Jesus washed away their sins, so it's like they never happened. They are all now happily in heaven:'
but according to the bible jesus dammed muderers and rapists to hell, but you say that he has absolved them of all sin????? i call bullshit
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You can't come in here and try and bullshit us boy, even if it were true, most of these fruitcakes were False Christians not True Christians. God's chosen people will be clean and pure will be ascending to Heaven with our Lord soon.

I await the Rapture!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

'"There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history."

David Berkowitz: Killed 6 people, wounded 7 others. Renounced Judaism at a young age, converted to Baptism. Became a Born-Again Christian while in prison.

Sampson Kanderayi: AKA the "Ax Killer". Murdered 30 people. A Christian.

Coral Eugene Watts: May have murdered as many as 80 women and girls. He was a Christian who supposedly murdered to get rid of evil spirits.

Jeffrey Dahmer: Born-Again Christian who murdered 17 men and boys and cannibalized their remains.

Donald Miller: Raped and murdered four women. Conservative Christian who always carried a bible.
Yes, but that doesn't matter. Jesus washed away their sins, so it's like they never happened. They are all now happily in heaven:'
but according to the bible jesus dammed muderers and rapists to hell, but you say that he has absolved them of all sin????? i call bullshit
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Wow, so all you have to go on is a few people who converted to Christianity after going to prison?

Dahmer wasn't a Christian (he was an atheist) and neither was Berzerkowitz (he was a Satanist) until they were in prison and met Jesus.

If a Muslim blew up a day care center, then converted to God-mocking atheism while in prison, would you say, "See what atheists do?"

Of course not.

Try again, tardboy.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Well, it didn't take long to put the lie to that list the Jesus-hating atheist posted. I looked up the first guy on Wiki (their "bible") and found:

The other victims were killed, Berkowitz claimed, by members of a violent satanic cult of which he was a member.

Nice try, heathen scum.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[Didymus Much]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

'"There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history."...

Clifford Olson: raped and murdered (at least) 11 children in Canada, then blackmailed the Crown (and the victim's families) over the location of the bodies. "Accepted Jesus" in prison, knew "God had forgiven him", wondered why no one else would.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

'"There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history."

David Berkowitz: Killed 6 people, wounded 7 others. Renounced Judaism at a young age, converted to Baptism. Became a Born-Again Christian while in prison.

Sampson Kanderayi: AKA the "Ax Killer". Murdered 30 people. A Christian.

Coral Eugene Watts: May have murdered as many as 80 women and girls. He was a Christian who supposedly murdered to get rid of evil spirits.

Jeffrey Dahmer: Born-Again Christian who murdered 17 men and boys and cannibalized their remains.

Donald Miller: Raped and murdered four women. Conservative Christian who always carried a bible.
Yes, but that doesn't matter. Jesus washed away their sins, so it's like they never happened. They are all now happily in heaven:'
but according to the bible jesus dammed muderers and rapists to hell, but you say that he has absolved them of all sin????? i call bullshit
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False Christians are everywhere. look how many of them come marching in here all outraged and waving Matthew 7:1 or Luke 6:37 at us like it's the whole Bible.

[atheist.org]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

'"There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history."

David Berkowitz: Killed 6 people, wounded 7 others. Renounced Judaism at a young age, converted to Baptism. Became a Born-Again Christian while in prison.

Sampson Kanderayi: AKA the "Ax Killer". Murdered 30 people. A Christian.

Coral Eugene Watts: May have murdered as many as 80 women and girls. He was a Christian who supposedly murdered to get rid of evil spirits.

Jeffrey Dahmer: Born-Again Christian who murdered 17 men and boys and cannibalized their remains.

Donald Miller: Raped and murdered four women. Conservative Christian who always carried a bible.
Yes, but that doesn't matter. Jesus washed away their sins, so it's like they never happened. They are all now happily in heaven:'
but according to the bible jesus dammed muderers and rapists to hell, but you say that he has absolved them of all sin????? i call bullshit
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[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

bolstering my own ego has nothing to do with this
and there is no way to sink lower than you in the eyes of the world
at least 98% of them
they already think what you do and what you stand for is ridiculous

The Bible tells us that most people won't make it into Heaven, so what you say doesn't surprise me. God is a killer. Jesus will return as a warrior. Look at the Book of Revelations and you'll find out that Jesus is going to come back as a killer. And don't you forget that. God will kill a third of the population, a third of the earth, and that's just in the first week He's back!

As the Pastor said, Jesus WILL kill you if YOU don't love Him!

Right now Frigid North you are like man with hands bound, stripped naked and set in a chair in a darken room. Christ comes up behind you and puts His knife to your throat, grabs you by the hair, yanks you head back and whispers into your ear "You are sinning scum, but I chose to love you anyway. Say you love me too OR I WILL CUT YOU AND NOT THINK TWICE BITCH!"

So what are going to do Frigid North? Be a fool and tell Jesus no? You can be the fool and get you throat cut, all we TRUE Christians(tm) can do is urge you to say the right words.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

unbiased?
do you even know what that word means?

As God is perfect, word of God (the bible) is also perfect. So anything viewed in the light of the bible is automatically unbiased and pure. Very simple. Opposite of unbiased is biased.

Here is an example of biased view.

you are one angry old man

You are welcome, I am always happy to educate unsaved trash.

[Repentant]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

and there is no way to sink lower than you in the eyes of the world
at least 98% of them
they already think what you do and what you stand for is ridiculous

I am surprised you think it is only 98%, quite honestly I suspect it would be way higher. That is because most people are living ungodly lives.

Pastor Ezekiel is clearly right, Jesus is not this fluffy bunny you have been handed in watered down stories. Jesus and God are coming back, and when they do you better be scared. At the point of Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) things are going to look a whole lot worse for the 99.99%.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

Revelation 21:8

Revelation 20:12-13

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

bolstering my own ego has nothing to do with this
and there is no way to sink lower than you in the eyes of the world
at least 98% of them
they already think what you do and what you stand for is ridiculous

The Bible tells us that most people won't make it into Heaven, so what you say doesn't surprise me. God is a killer. Jesus will return as a warrior. Look at the Book of Revelations and you'll find out that Jesus is going to come back as a killer. And don't you forget that. God will kill a third of the population, a third of the earth, and that's just in the first week He's back!

“And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground.” Jeremiah 25:33