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  • #31
    Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

    Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
    Pardon?
    Wow noodle boy, you are coming off even nuttier than usual.
    Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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    • #32
      Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

      Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
      Wow noodle boy, you are coming off even nuttier than usual.
      Fortunately I had another tab open with what I actually quoted from you before you edited it. and your original post.
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      Very bad form from you Levi Tut Tut.
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      • #33
        Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

        I shall ask you again, seeing as you feel you first answer so wrong you had to give it the Stalin treatment.

        Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
        Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
        But when you take that with:

        Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
        Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

        Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

        1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
        1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
        1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

        Yet are we to follow a foolish man and his foolish law?

        Romans 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
        Romans 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
        Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
        Romans 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
        Romans 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
        Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
        But is it not "god's" law that the laws of man form part of the laws of "god?
        Not just part of "god's" but in fact ordained by "god" himself?
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        • #34
          Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

          What the heck is so hard to understand, we follow the KJV1611, secular law and do what our Pastor tells us to do.
          It not a hard concept is it? I think that if say a witch where trying to put a hex or spell on you, you would then have the right to defend your self( That is what secular law says)
          Then stoning said witch would be allowed by the KJV1611, and secular law. If I feel that my life is in danger I do have the right to defend my self, YES?

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          • #35
            Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

            Look here, spaghetti bender; You have chosen to spit in God's loving face by inventing your own idiotic godmocking religion. There is nothing any of us could say to change your mind or convince you of the error of your ways because God has put a stumbling block before you. We are not going to waste our time playing "gotcha!" with you.

            Just remember this: God will not be mocked! You're going to have to answer to Jesus come Judgment Day on bended knee for your blasphemy.
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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            • #36
              Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

              Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
              I love Jesus with all my heart and soul.
              Your screenshot proves nothing, except you can misquote me. Tut tut.
              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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              • #37
                Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                What the heck is so hard to understand, we follow the KJV1611, secular law and do what our Pastor tells us to do.
                It not a hard concept is it? I think that if say a witch where trying to put a hex or spell on you, you would then have the right to defend your self( That is what secular law says)
                Then stoning said witch would be allowed by the KJV1611, and secular law. If I feel that my life is in danger I do have the right to defend my self, YES?
                That is not the question here, the question as you asked it is how does Titus 3:1, 1st Peter 2:13-15 and Romans 13:2-6 work with Acts 5:29
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                • #38
                  Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                  Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                  Your screenshot proves nothing, except you can misquote me. Tut tut.
                  I know what you posted, you know what you posted, I know you edited the posts, you know you edited the posts, that does not mater any more, now explain again how Titus 3:1, 1st Peter 2:13-15 and Romans 13:2-6 work with Acts 5:29.
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                  • #39
                    Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                    Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                    That is not the question here, the question as you asked it is how does Titus 3:1, 1st Peter 2:13-15 and Romans 13:2-6 work with Acts 5:29
                    Are you that damn dumb? By my post I showed you that you can follow the word of God and Man at the same time!

                    No matter how foolish the law is.

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                    • #40
                      Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                      Jo Freddie, you're interrogating the Truth until you hear what you like. The implications of Bible law and magistrate law in tandem, have been explained to you. Don't like what you're hearing? I'm sorry. Asking the same questions over and over and expecting a different answer is nothing short of deranged.

                      The Bible tells us to rebuke, rebuke, and rebuke some more - in every way we can; because, for the moment, that's our only option. Stoning Witches and Gays is not the easiest option available (but as I, and others pointed out, is not entirely ruled out).

                      Furthermore, the very same law that (currently) allows you to be an atheist abomination freely, allows good pastors(such as Zeke and Levi, etc) the freedom and right not to wed abominable homersexuals, no matter where the legality of it rests.
                      Originally posted by U.S. Constitution
                      "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ."
                      Forcing pastors to enable gay marriage is a violation of the above. Unless the pastor sells his soul and consents; it will never happen. This is YOUR secular democracy(NOT our Theocratic ideology) - if we're able to re contextualize this (provided the Christian right succeeds) it'll be much less malleable. There are some state constitutions that differ from our federal constitutions, in that they put a heavier jurisdiction on the Bible when electing judicial and congressional figures(Bless them).
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                      • #41
                        Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                        Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                        No, I was just asking the forum member the question, to find out if he felt that Zekie Boy was wrong.

                        I am not trying to interoperate your KJV-CFT rule book, I am just seeking clarification as to what your church's position is and how if fits with your favourite collection of fairy tales.
                        Sorry Jo Freddie, but you and your starchy satanic friend will not succeed setting us one against another here!

                        My own analysis is that it is pointless, annoying, and unnecessary to argue about the correct application of each particular law. God will judge WHY we acted. He knows exactly what is in our hearts. If we have acted out of true faith, then whatever we do is necessarily right, even if one Christian does the exact opposite of another in any one case. If our motives are less than pure, then we can do wrong even if it is the same act as another who God judges to be correct because that person acted out of faith.

                        It is a case of the means justifying the ends.

                        Just my un-Pastorly opinion.
                        Leviticus 13:44 He is a leprous man, he is UNCLEAN: the priest shall pronounce him utterly UNCLEAN; his plague is in his head.

                        2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass's head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung for five pieces of silver.



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                        • #42
                          Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                          Originally posted by CyberYahweh View Post
                          Jo Freddie, you're interrogating the Truth until you hear what you like. The implications of Bible law and magistrate law in tandem, have been explained to you. Don't like what you're hearing? I'm sorry. Asking the same questions over and over and expecting a different answer is nothing short of deranged.
                          I was just seeking clarification, something I thought I had got but apparently Levi decided he had gone too far.

                          Forcing pastors to enable gay marriage is a violation of the above. Unless the pastor sells his soul and consents; it will never happen. This is YOUR secular democracy(NOT our Theocratic ideology) - if we're able to re contextualize this (provided the Christian right succeeds) it'll be much less malleable. There are some state constitutions that differ from our federal constitutions, in that they put a heavier jurisdiction on the Bible when electing judicial and congressional figures(Bless them).
                          As I have already stated I agree it would be wrong to force a Pastor to perform a marriage between to people who they felt did not conform to the standards of their Church, and your constitution, so therefore secular Law, seem to defend that right.

                          As for you right to rebuke me within secular law, that I have no problem with at all. In fact to do otherwise would mean you were not being true to yourself, something that I feel is very important for everyone.
                          Originally posted by landoverlover View Post
                          My own analysis is that it is pointless, annoying, and unnecessary to argue about the correct application of each particular law.
                          I was not the one who started this topic by posting the question.
                          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                          Brother, obviously, it means that we should obey the laws of God when it is a more Godly ministration that runs our current regime, which we support as scripture tell us we must. We would never want to disobey our rulers and thus anger our LORD.
                          Implies that only if the administration you voted for is in power will you obey secular Law.
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                          • #43
                            Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                            Spaghetti stains are the hardest to cleanse; you're a living testament to this, Mr. Freddie - and your false apostasy.
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                            • #44
                              Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                              Originally posted by CyberYahweh View Post
                              Spaghetti stains are the hardest to cleanse; you're a living testament to this, Mr. Freddie - and your false apostasy.
                              I have commited not act of apostasy, false or otherwise I have stayed true to my faith.

                              In this thread I make no attempt to make others defect from their faith, in fact I never do that, I purely explain what mine is, if people chose to convert to it that is their choice.

                              What I am trying to get the Pastors to do here is to answer the question as posted by Jimmy. The only thin left in this thread is a woolly statement from Levi that still requires some clarification to actually be an answer to Jimmy's question.
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                              • #45
                                Re: I need a little help under standing Scripture.

                                Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                                I have commited not act of apostasy, false or otherwise I have stayed true to my faith.

                                In this thread I make no attempt to make others defect from their faith, in fact I never do that, I purely explain what mine is, if people chose to convert to it that is their choice.

                                What I am trying to get the Pastors to do here is to answer the question as posted by Jimmy. The only thin left in this thread is a woolly statement from Levi that still requires some clarification to actually be an answer to Jimmy's question.
                                Give it up Jo Freddie. It is a non issue.
                                Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                                Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                                Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                                Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                                Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                                Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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