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  • Meek and Humble
    Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
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    • Dec 2008
    • 6197

    #1

    The Legal Rights of Women

    This is a work of progress. Here is how I hope America will one day rework its legal system, back to TRADITIONAL VALUES, instead of feminist mumbo-jumbo.

    - A married woman is not considered a person in the eyes of the law. As per the words of Jesus, she becomes one flesh with her husband.

    -A married woman does not own anything. Anything she gets becomes the possession of her husband. This includes all the money she had before marriage. It includes all her possessions, even her own clothing. Her husband can take them and sell them at any time he wants, even if they are gifts given to her by relatives.

    -A married woman can not make a will. Regardless of her wishes, even if she wants to leave money to help her children, or if she is separated from her husband, or if her husband is living with a mistress, regardless, all of her money and possessions become the property of her husband at her death.

    -A married woman cannot earn her own salary. No matter what kind of work, working as a field-hand or teaching a school, any money she earns is paid to her husband. If she earns money without his permission, he has the right to forbid her from receiving payment from the employer.

    -A wife cannot leave her husband's house. If she does, he has the right to sue her for restitution of conjugal rights. He has the right to enter the house of any friend or relative she takes refuge to, and carry her away by force, with or without the aid of the police.

    -A wife can sue for separation only in the case that she fears for her life if she remains. However, if the husband has ever hit her before, and she forgave him, that means she has condoned such action, and cannot then go to the law later and complain about it.

    -A husband can sue for divorce in the event of a wife being unfaithful, but a wife has no right to defend herself. Any claims on her part that allegations are false will be ignored. She cannot represent herself, even through an attorney. The only person who may speak in court is the accused wife's lover, who the husband can sue for damages for sleeping with his wife. If the lover, who the husband has accused, and the wife has no right to deny in front of court, admits he had an affair, then the man may receive a divorce.

    -A woman has no right to file for divorce against her husband for any reason whatsoever.

    -A divorce cannot be obtained from a regular court of law, but must be decided by an Act of Congress to legally nullify the marriage.

    -A man has the right to take another wife after a divorce. A woman has no such right unless allowed by Congress, and then only if it is a case that the marriage is being divorced because it is incestuous in nature.

    -A woman cannot file a lawsuit. Her husband must do so on her behalf.

    -A woman cannot sign a lease or partake in any business transactions.

    -A husband has no legal obligation to support his wife. He is obligated to make sure she does not become a burden on society, but if it is found that she has other family members, then he has no legal injunction to provide her financial support. This includes even if the husband has left the wife and she has to take care of his children. Also, he continues to hold the right to any money she receives from inheritance even if they are not living together.

    -Any sort of pre-nuptial agreement is illegal. A man cannot be legally bound to a contract with his wife.

    -A man continues to have the right to all of his wife's money and possessions regardless of their living arrangements. Even if she has left him because of being abused, or if he has left to live with another woman, or if he has kicked her out of the house, he is still the owner of anything that belongs to her.

    -A man has the legal right to kick his wife out of his house and refuse her entry, at anytime for whatever reason.

    -Upon divorce, a man may retain rights to possessions which belonged to her before marriage, unless by special agreement. A wife has no right to anything which belongs to her husband.
  • María Gálvez-Villalobos
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    • Mar 2011
    • 1307

    #2
    Re: The Legal Rights of Women

    Ummm....excuse me Mr Basher, now you KNOW I'm a very respective girl but just a question. Or maybe more.

    Is your 'opinion' this, only?
    Or is doctrine?

    I notice the lack of escriptures, so I'm think you are express a opinion, yes?

    In any cage, I was think that if this is in accordings whit Bible then I can learn someting of it.

    Thanks,

    YIC, Mari Juana
    Ex JW and quiet, shy, timid girl who wants to be a True Cristian Lady.
    My favorite verse from the Bible is:
    - A true WITNESSE deliuereth soules: but a deceitfull WITNESSE speaketh lyes.

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    • Meek and Humble
      Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
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      • Dec 2008
      • 6197

      #3
      Re: The Legal Rights of Women

      Originally posted by María Gálvez-Villalobos View Post
      Ummm....excuse me Mr Basher, now you KNOW I'm a very respective girl but just a question. Or maybe more.

      Is your 'opinion' this, only?
      Or is doctrine?

      I notice the lack of escriptures, so I'm think you are express a opinion, yes?

      In any cage, I was think that if this is in accordings whit Bible then I can learn someting of it.

      Thanks,

      YIC, Mari Juana
      Hush.

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      • zoonswoggle
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • May 2011
        • 25

        #4
        Re: The Legal Rights of Women

        I too believe we should go back to a more fundamental system, but it would be helpful if we had scripture to base it on. I trust you have done your research, but it is still useful to know.

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        • Meek and Humble
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          • Dec 2008
          • 6197

          #5
          Re: The Legal Rights of Women

          Genesis 2: 24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

          Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall...bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her."

          Ezra 10:1-16"Shechaniah...answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing. Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law."

          Matthew 5:31-32 "It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."


          Matthew 19:3-9 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

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          • Jo Freddie
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            • Apr 2009
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            #6
            Re: The Legal Rights of Women

            1 Corinthians 11:3-12 "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
            Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
            But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
            For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
            For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
            For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
            Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
            For this cause ought the woman to have power on [her] head because of the angels.
            Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
            For as the woman [is] of the man, even so [is] the man also by the woman; but all things of God."

            Your quotes, and the one I have given above, do not show us that woman is the property of man, they show us that there were written by men to justify the oppression of women.

            They do not reflect the will of God, they reflect the misogynist dreams an fantasies of bronze age men.

            A much closer reflection of what God had in mind would be:
            "For subordination of women and separation of roles is an abomination"
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            • MitzaLizalor
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              • Sep 2010
              • 14165

              #7
              Re: The Legal Rights of Women

              Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
              1 Corinthians 11:3-12 "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
              Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
              But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
              For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
              For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
              For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
              Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
              For this cause ought the woman to have power on [her] head because of the angels.
              Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
              For as the woman [is] of the man, even so [is] the man also by the woman; but all things of God."

              Your quotes, and the one I have given above, do not show us that woman is the property of man, they show us that there were written by men to justify the oppression of women.

              They do not reflect the will of God, they reflect the misogynist dreams an fantasies of bronze age men.

              A much closer reflection of what God had in mind would be:
              "For subordination of women and separation of roles is an abomination"
              Paul's letters to the Corinthians were written in the iron age.

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              • Jo Freddie
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                #8
                Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                Paul's letters to the Corinthians were written in the iron age.
                Based on the concepts of a system of oppression largely developed in the bronze age. Genesis for instance, in the first 12 chapters deals with "primeval history" setting out a misogynist world view in such a way to try and justify the claim - that is how things were and and they will be that way forever.

                In the letters to the Corinthians the author is mealy drawing on the warped principals laid down by other misogynistic manipulators in a previous age to give false credence to his ramblings.
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                • Ezekiel Bathfire
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                  • Jan 2008
                  • 22840

                  #9
                  Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                  [QUOTE=Jo Freddie;749391]... the one [quote] I have given above, do not show us that woman is the property of man, they show us that there were written by men to justify the oppression of women.[quote]It is no more "oppression" than you "oppress" your dog by feeding and housing it.

                  Gen:7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

                  See, even male animals owned their females, surely you are not saying that Man is less than the beasts?

                  And what of De:22:29 ? Why should there be payment, if not for change of ownership?
                  They do not reflect the will of God,
                  If they are in KJV1611, then that IS the Will of God.
                  A much closer reflection of what God had in mind would be:
                  "For subordination of women and separation of roles is an abomination"
                  Now I know you are mad! You (and I mean 'you') cannot know the Will of God. There is no 'translating' His Word to suit your lieberal agenda.

                  @Heathen_Basher;

                  This will be of use: According to the historian Flavian Josephus who’s writings are contemporaneous with the New Testament, the practice of the exclusion of women in the Jewish government as legal witness went something like this:
                  "But let not a single witness be credited, but three, or two at the least, and those such whose testimony is confirmed by their good lives. But let not the testimony of women be admitted, on account of the levity and boldness of the sex." (Antiquities of the Jews, Bk. IV. Ch. Vlll. 15)
                  And then we have:http://www.gci.org/church/ministry/women6b
                  W. Forster, Palestinian Judaism in New Testament Times (London, 1964), 124. Some example of views of women at the time of Christ:
                  "Any iniquity is small compared to a woman's iniquity…. From a woman sin had its beginning, and because of her we all die" (Sirach 25:19, 24; 2nd century B.C.).
                  "Better is the wickedness of a man than a woman who does good; it is woman who brings shame and disgrace" (Sirach 42:14).
                  "The woman is inferior to the man in every way" (Josephus, Against Apion 2:201).
                  "A hundred women are no better than two men" (Talmud, Ber. 45b) Although the Talmud was written well after the New Testament, in this case it is probably in agreement with first-century attitudes.
                  "A man is required to say the following three blessings every day: 'Blessed are you who have not made me a heathen, who have not made me a woman, who has not made me illiterate" (bMen. 43b; Ber. 7.18).
                  "There is no wisdom in woman except with the spindle" (bYom. 66b)
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                  • Jo Freddie
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                    #10
                    Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                    It is no more "oppression" than you "oppress" your dog by feeding and housing it.

                    Thank you Bathie, for so wonderfully displaying the thinking behind the
                    misogynistic agenda has inspired such writings.
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                    • Jo Freddie
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                      #11
                      Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                      Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                      "A man is required to say the following three blessings every day: 'Blessed are you who have not made me a heathen, who have not made me a woman, who has not made me illiterate" (bMen. 43b; Ber. 7.18).
                      My partner does not have an account here but would like me to add this on their behalf
                      Mr. Bathfire......"A man is required to say the following three blessings every day: 'Blessed are you who have not made me a heathen, who have not made me a woman, who has not made me illiterate"..........Are you sure it's not 4 bleesings you have to say?
                      ........ you forgot to thank him for making you a massive 'tool'.
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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78552

                        #12
                        Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                        Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                        My partner does not have an account here but would like me to add this on their behalf
                        Mr. Bathfire......"A man is required to say the following three blessings every day: 'Blessed are you who have not made me a heathen, who have not made me a woman, who has not made me illiterate"..........Are you sure it's not 4 bleesings you have to say?
                        ........ you forgot to thank him for making you a massive 'tool'.
                        Your "partner?" What sort of communistic title is that? Sounds like you're a queer to me...
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                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                        • MitzaLizalor
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                          • Sep 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                          Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                          A much closer reflection of what God had in mind would be:
                          "For subordination of women and separation of roles is an abomination"
                          Are you suggesting that some man should bear my children for me, or that say, 50% of all children ought to be born of men? (affirmative action to eliminate the abomination of rôle separation)

                          Perhaps your recent Bible reading — and I am pleased to see that you are reading His Word — has not got as far as I Peter 3?

                          I PETER 3:7 Likewise ye husbands, dwel with them according to knowledge, giuing honour vnto the wife as vnto the weaker vessel, and as being heires together of the grace of life, that your prayers be not hindered.
                          ©1611

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                          • Jo Freddie
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                            #14
                            Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                            Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                            Are you suggesting that some man should bear my children for me, or that say, 50% of all children ought to be born of men? (affirmative action to eliminate the abomination of rôle separation)
                            That fact that women are able to carry children makes then if anything the stronger vessel. Man's inability in this area of reproduction does not gives them more rights and privileges then women.

                            The laws that HB longs for have nothing to do with the reproductive process and everything to do with wanting to control and dominate.
                            Perhaps your recent Bible reading — and I am pleased to see that you are reading His Word — has not got as far as I Peter 3?

                            I PETER 3:7 Likewise ye husbands, dwel with them according to knowledge, giuing honour vnto the wife as vnto the weaker vessel, and as being heires together of the grace of life, that your prayers be not hindered.
                            Yet again rehashing of the view a group bronze age control freaks who want to subjugate women. (before you point out that the writings attributed to Paul are not from the bronze age note that I said it was a "rehashing of the view a group bronze age control freaks")
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                            • Jo Freddie
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                              #15
                              Re: The Legal Rights of Women

                              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                              Your "partner?" What sort of communistic title is that? Sounds like you're a queer to me...
                              I use the term partner as we are equal I do not own them,they do not own me, we are equal.

                              We have made a commitment to each other to live our lives together as two equal components of one partnership.
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