Poor God

[landoverlover]

An entire Japanese family in our church was crushed by a steamroller during the tsunami in Japan,while visiting relatives (they were, of course, "Associate Parishioners On Permanent Probation.") As a True Christian Baptist Pastor, our Right Reverend Jimmy John honed in on the biggest sorrow of this event - God's sorrow.

"God wept over this tragedy" the Reverend instructed us.

I have heard this many times as various calamities devastate the earth. I was overwhelmed. Poor Old God! Because He gave man free will, He sits in Heaven utterly unwilling to use His omnipotent powers to save a child from being crushed to death! How does He withstand the temptation to move that steamroller a couple of feet to either side, or to lower the wave height of the tsunami? Or to keep someone from defecating in the salad bar? And it happens untold thousands of times each day.

It is my personal belief that global warming is real, but the oceans are rising from the volume of God's tears falling to earth, as man's sinfulness increases.

When these things happen, i implore you to remember that GOD has a PLAN for your LIFE. This plan may be to have you crushed to death at three years of age, but that child will be playing horsie in Heaven!

Every time a child dies a painful death, every time a roof collapses onto a church full of worshippers, every time a forest fire burns a village of old people to death, I pity God for the sorrow He endures, but rejoice that the plan for their lives has been fulfilled!

[James Hutchins]

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Are you sure those were not tears of joy from baby Jesus at the flattening of the gooks?
God did send them to Nipland and did arrange for that steamroller to be there. The slants had the free will to stand in its' path (to please God) or move (to be selfish).

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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God is so sensitive. I also feel a deep sense of pity for God, knowing how loving it is for Him to allow us to go to Hell in our ignorance of His invisible existence. Conversely, it would be hateful of Him to just guarantee everyone's unconditional salvation. I mean, what about all those people who want to suffer eternally?

[MitzaLizalor]

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God is so sensitive. I also feel a deep sense of pity for God, knowing how loving it is for Him to allow us to go to Hell in our ignorance of His invisible existence. Conversely, it would be hateful of Him to just guarantee everyone's unconditional salvation. I mean, what about all those people who want to suffer eternally?

I was reminded of Isaiah 63 and the grief of God, how He spared the Israelites from the consequences of their abominable whoredoms, in His great mercy

Isaiah 63:7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.

how He suffered with them

Isaiah 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

and how He destroyed them.

Isaiah 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

Although God's tears are not mentioned, the Israelites experience a profound separation anxiety in connection with the sounding of His bowels

Isaiah 63:15 Look down from heaven, and behold from the habitation of thy holiness and of thy glory: where is thy zeal and thy strength, the sounding of thy bowels and of thy mercies toward me? are they restrained?

and I would like to focus on those bowels. The emphasis is on THE SOUND in this passage and reading through the whole chapter there
is a longing for "the days of old" when the sound of His deliverance was OF MULTITUDES in Godly war. Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt but it was Joseph who brought them in, and I recalled that poignant moment when Joseph met his youngest brother all those years before.

Genesis 43:29-30 And he lifted up his eyes, and saw his brother Benjamin, his mother's son, and said, Is this your younger brother, of whom ye spake unto me? And he said, God be gracious unto thee, my son. And Joseph made haste; for his bowels did yearn upon his brother: and he sought where to weep; and he entered into his chamber, and wept there.


YOU CAN READ ALL OF ISAIAH 63 HERE
READ ABOUT JOSEPH'S BOWELS, BENJAMIN'S MESS AND HIS BROTHERS' SACKS HERE

[Faith_Machine]

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...but that child will be playing horsie in Heaven!

Not if that child's unsaved or a bastard, he won't!

[Bob4God]

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Sometimes things happen that have no apparent explanation.

They seem like freak accidents happening to people who don't apparently deserve to die, but I know that GOD knows more about the matter than I do.

Of course every terrible thing that happens is simply a result of the freewill that GOD gave us, and we must never ever allow ourselves to doubt GOD just because a child is crushed by a steamroller, which only happened because of sin, which only happened because of Adam and Eve's transgressions in the Garden of Eden, which only happened because GOD was testing the freewill that He gave them to see what they would do with it.

But fear not, if the child accepted JESUS CHRIST as his personal LORD and SAVIOR, we know he is in Heaven now with nary a bruise to show for his horrific death on Earth, which GOD could not have prevented because it would somehow jeopardize our free will.

Praise!

[MitzaLizalor]

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..if the child accepted JESUS CHRIST as his personal LORD and SAVIOR, we know he is in Heaven now with nary a bruise to show for his horrific death on Earth, which GOD could not have prevented because it would somehow jeopardize our free will.

Praise!

Thank you Jesus

@Bob4God a friend of mine has asked me what would be the position of a child who did accept Jesus as their personal Lord and saviour (at age around 2½) but was sold as a catamite on his 3rd birthday and run over by a steam roller before he could buy his freedom? I know that this would be a nonsense if the child was a girl, who could never buy her fredom - but my friend was thinking of a son I believe.
And she mentioned a combine harvester or opium baler or something — she's just returned from a holiday to South Asia but what should I tell her?

Your advise will be very welcome, as I feel my friend is not telling me the whole story.

I understand that her young son will be returning home later on.

[Redeemed Papist]

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The way God regularly tests us by having horrific accidents or natural disasters or hideous diseases to punish the sinful and focus our minds on how much we should be doing His will is wonderful in its love.

How much less likely would we be to crave salvation if the world were some sort of paradise with no misfortune to focus our minds and get our attention back where it belongs; on the Bible and its wondrous examples of rightful behaviour and instructions on how to deal with the sinful?

[MitzaLizalor]

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The way God regularly tests us by having horrific accidents or natural disasters or hideous diseases to punish the sinful and focus our minds on how much we should be doing His will is wonderful in its love.

How much less likely would we be to crave salvation if the world were some sort of paradise with no misfortune to focus our minds and get our attention back where it belongs; on the Bible and its wondrous examples of rightful behaviour and instructions on how to deal with the sinful?

That is very helpful - I'll pass that on and see what she says.

I am confident that a papist would know what to say to a catamite, or to a mother who was wondering about an absent catamite, especially one recently mangled in agricultural machinery. Her That child will certainly be in HELL. Thank you for your advice.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Who knows what dreadful sin that child had in its heart? All these people get hung up on the outward appearance and that children appear innocent just because outwardly they look like they can do no wrong. How many of us have been taken in thusly by an evil child over the years? Lots.

1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Anyone claiming that a child killed by God was innocent needs to wake up to the fact that God knew the child was evil in its heart and accept God had a reason for killing it the same as for killing sinful adults. God can't be fooled like we can.

Glory!