[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

Well now I am more confused than ever, after attending services at Grace United Methodist in Des Moines this morning.

I was shocked when they told me that I was far too hard on myself and that, in fact, many men in the congregation are actually still practicing homosexuals, and that Jesus is just fine with it.

They even explained that Jesus might actually be encouraging gayness in the book of Matthew.

Matthew 7:12 "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

I don't know what to do. I don't want to go back to being a promiscuous rectum-wrecker because my body is just too old and weak, but in the light of what was discussed this morning, perhaps fagging isn't as bad as some of us think?

Think of it this way, Brother Porter. Do you want to spend the rest of your life in a homer bath house where someone reads Scripture? That is what the Methodists are inviting you to do.

Better for you would be to stay where there is hatred of homers and bath houses, where you live a life miserably fighting off your gay urges. Only by holding your gay impluses at bay can you maintain the unhappy state of mind that ensures your place in Heaven. The pleasure of worshiping as an out homer among the Methodists is a sure ticket to hell.

[UNsavedthruChrist]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

Mr. Porter
I'm so very sorry that you ever got involved with these landover people A true Christian does not treat people like this!! It makes me so sick They have no right to tell anyone they are going anywhere only God decides that. I do not condone homosexualality but it is not my place to throw stones... Christ died for you and I to wash away our sins You can choose not to act on those temptations and live a life filled with Jesus Christ Do not listen to these people they teach with hate not love follow where the Lord leads you brother.. listen only to him!! What these people say does not matter one bit!! They too will be judged God bless

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

Mr. Porter
I'm so very sorry that you ever got involved with these landover people A true Christian does not treat people like this!! It makes me so sick They have no right to tell anyone they are going anywhere only God decides that. I do not condone homosexualality but it is not my place to throw stones... Christ died for you and I to wash away our sins You can choose not to act on those temptations and live a life filled with Jesus Christ Do not listen to these people they teach with hate not love follow where the Lord leads you brother.. listen only to him!! What these people say does not matter one bit!! They too will be judged God bless

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

follow where the Lord leads you brother.. listen only to him!!

The Lord is abundantly clear in both the Old and the New Testaments that all homosexual perverteds ought to be killed. That is what He says. When you listen, what do you hear?

[UNsavedthruChrist]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

Do you remember that time when Jesus Christ gathered all the homosexuals together and crucified them!? Ya me neither I will say it again.. it is not my right as a sinner/ man to pass judgment!! Only the Lord has that right... Don't u say a sin is a sin? So wouldn't you say since you sin everyday you are just as bad as Mr. Porter? So are you going to Heaven or to Hell? Please keep spreading Gods word but stop the bullying! It only pushes people away from him God bless

[Godfly]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

It's too bad you won't be joining us in Heaven. Hot enough for ya?

[Didymus Much]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

...it is not my right as a sinner/ man to pass judgment!!...

Of course not. Do you think God would want sinners judging people?

But then, if you were a True Christian™, who loved Jesus and wanted to do what God told him to (which can be easily discovered by simply reading your Bible), judging others is an OBLIGATION:

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

That's as much an order (direct from Jesus) as any of the Commandments.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

right…to pass judgment!! Only the Lord has that right

.........and He has done so and His judgement is that homosexuals should be executed. He describes the method, the place and time, who should participate and gives the reason why.

Jesus reiterated His Commandment for The Church per favour Paul. In The New Testament specific methodology is not described. Many other categories of pervert are added to the list. The LORD's Judgement, not mine.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

What's her name, Brother?



Or is it, HIS name?

Ahem

but in the light of what was discussed this morning, perhaps fagging isn't as bad as some of us think?

Called it.



Not that I have any clairvoyant powers or anything, mind you, it's just that joining the Methodist church isn't too hard to figure out. They water down the Gospel Message so homos will feel comfortable going there. It's just a money making scheme for them. Half of their so-called pastors don't even believe in God, but if they can convince lonely homosexuals to come to their, what did you call it, "group discussion," they will have that much more money in the collection plate.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

I am feeling sick now.

[UNsavedthruChrist]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7:1-5

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:11-12

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; Luke 6:37

And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” John 8:7

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. John 8:7

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Matthew7:15

There are plenty more!!! Practice what you preach

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

Do you remember that time when Jesus Christ gathered all the homosexuals together and crucified them!? Ya me neither I will say it again.. it is not my right as a sinner/ man to pass judgment!! Only the Lord has that right... Don't u say a sin is a sin? So wouldn't you say since you sin everyday you are just as bad as Mr. Porter? So are you going to Heaven or to Hell? Please keep spreading Gods word but stop the bullying! It only pushes people away from him God bless

Dear Confused Heathen;

Please read my sermon on the subject HERE. I urge you to shut your yap and start accepting Christ Jesus as He is, not as you wish He was.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

Mr. Porter
I'm so very sorry that you ever got involved with these landover people A true Christian does not treat people like this!! It makes me so sick They have no right to tell anyone they are going anywhere only God decides that.

Excuse me, dear, but if a person only repeats what God Himself has already said, then your problem isn't with the person, but with God Himself. But let me guess, you've never actually read the Holy Bible, have you? You've been to Sunday School and heard stories about Jesus healing the cripples and gimps, and think that means He's some super-nice hippie dude with super human powers. Who ever taught you about the True Christian™ faith has lied to you, dear. Open your eyes and let God's Word in.

I do not condone homosexualality

Why not? Could it be because... God hates homosexuals? (Leviticus 18:22)

but it is not my place to throw stones...

Your refusal to stand strong and speak the Word of God means only that you are a coward at best, and a non-believer at worst. Apparently you don't believe God says what He means and means what He says. Apparently you would let your friend choose the lifestyle that spits in the face of the Sweet Baby Jesus, knowing your friend is securing a terrible and eternal state of torment in Hell, just to appease your personal cowardice so you don't have to take a stand. Well, dear, your kind is no more welcomed here than those who willfully "prefer to both give and receive a vicious rectal pounding several times per day," as Mr. Porter gleefully explains. Why, I wouldn't be surprised if he's not here right now, not because he's reading his Holy Bible, but because he's trying out one of those "Dragon Dildos" the methodists hand out after their services to encourage people to come to their pot lucks on the weekends.

Christ died for you and I to wash away our sins You can choose not to act on those temptations and live a life filled with Jesus Christ Do not listen to these people they teach with hate not love follow where the Lord leads you brother.. listen only to him!! What these people say does not matter one bit!! They too will be judged God bless

We will be judged with righteousness, our sins will be impervious to the LORD's memories (Isaiah 43:25). Mr. Porter, on the other hand, may or may not have been a subject of Christ's Work on the Cross. He didn't die for everyone's sins, dear.

[Didymus Much]

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Ok, quoteminer, time for you to do some reading:

...Matthew 7:1-5...

The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5) http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45137

...But who are you to judge your neighbor?...

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love? http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=71358

...“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; Luke 6:37...

But the Bible says that EVERYONE will be judged, so you've obviously misread that one, too.

...And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” John 8:7...

True Christians are Perfect! http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=44504

...For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. John 8:7...

Do you really think that passage means EVERYONE will be saved? Why did God create Hell, then?

...Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Matthew7:15...

Why can that not be applied to you?

...There are plenty more!!! Practice what you preach

Oh, but they do, and better than you.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Methodist Church - Is It Right For Me?

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7:1-5

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:11-12

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; Luke 6:37

And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” John 8:7

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. John 8:7

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Matthew7:15

There are plenty more!!! Practice what you preach

Matthew 7:1-5 Christians do not have logs in eyes.
James 4:11-12 Perverts are not our brethren (or sistern).
Luke 6:37 Perfect people do not fear judgement.
John 8:7 Those were Jews. There are no perfect Jews.
John 3:17 The world was condemned already. NOW READ THE NEXT VERSE
Matthew7:15 The false prophet is the one who contradicts The Holy Spirit. CHECK OUT VERSE 21

SATRT READING HERE