OSAS: Another Landover Heresy

[Jacques Anape]

I see another false teaching perpetrated on this forum, that is the disgraceful 'once saved always saved' doctrine. This unscriptual teaching, which leads to a sense of smug satisfaction and inaction among church-goers.

Salvation involves the process of sanctification, and is not over in an instant; we are saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved, but ONLY IF we continue with Him. If we leave Him and go off in rebellion or disobedience, and if we start loving ourselves and the 'broad road' more than we love Him, we will be lost. Salvation is IN HIM, and if we leave HIM for other ways, like the 'broad road', we will be lost. He has to continue the work of sanctification, which is all His work, but He CANNOT do it if we will not stay with Him, will not obey Him, and will not follow Him.

The grace of God will not override your free will - you can see that in Phil.3:9. Salvation is only eternal to those who stay in Christ.

[Deaner]

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you can see that in Phil.3:9. Salvation is only eternal to those who stay in Christ.

So where's the heresy Jacques? I would say you cafeteria Christians are the one's committing heresy. Where do we err from the word of the Bible?

[Jacques Anape]

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By teaching 'once saved, always saved'. You only stay 'saved' IF you continue the walk with Christ.

[Deaner]

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By teaching 'once saved, always saved'. You only stay 'saved' IF you continue the walk with Christ.

Are you saying we don't walk with Christ?

[Bob4God]

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Being saved is a true or false situation. Either you are saved or you are not. How can this be an on-going process as you describe?

[BibleBeliever]

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Once Saved Always Saved is true, numnutz, along with Not Saved Never Saved.

I dare you to cite verses where once saved always saved is disproven. I'm pretty sure I know off-hand what verses you're going to cite and I have my rebuttals already ready.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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By teaching 'once saved, always saved'. You only stay 'saved' IF you continue the walk with Christ.

If you cease to walk with Christ, then you were never truly Saved(c) in the first place.

I should think that would be apparent.

[BibleBeliever]

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If you cease to walk with Christ, then you were never truly Saved© in the first place.

I should think that would be apparent.

AMEN

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Well, according to Romans 8:1, once a person is Saved, their Salvation is assured. I don't know how much clearer you can make it.

You have failed once again to spit in Christ's loving face, Jackie. Failed miserably.

[Unfalsifiable]

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Rodimer presents impeccable logic, Jacques. You may think you can dip in and out of salvation at your whim, but the truth is because you're doing that it proves you were never actually saved in the first place. You were just pretending, or something.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Phil.3:9. Salvation is only eternal to those who stay in Christ.

That verse cause me some trouble as a child of 5 years. I thought on it for well over 20 minutes. I was willing during that time to accept it on Faith but as the time drew to a close and I was about to accept, it came to me. It cannot mean that once in Heaven (wherein is the only true eternity, for the earth will end) there is a possibility of being reprobated to Hell, else I was questioning the soundness of Final Judgment, as you seem happy to do. No!
Ro:8:1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Ro:8:2: For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Notice how the words are in the present tense, not the future or conditional: there is no condemnation and it has made me free. Praise! Once we are in Christ Jesus, we are free of sin and death and these two great disadvantages are irrelevant.

Once Saved, always Saved Jacques - such is God's Word and Undertaking to Mankind - it could be yours! Childlike faith is freedom, Jacques.

Leave the claws and matted fur of the beast (Rev 17:7), come into the light that is the freedom of Landover and True Christianity!

[Jacques Anape]

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Pastor,

I don't think I shall bother to go into the Word with you as you, are clearly not in Christ, and having never heard Him speak to you. 1 John 3:6.

[Brother Temperance]

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Pastor,

I don't think I shall bother to go into the Word with you as you, are clearly not in Christ, and having never heard Him speak to you. 1 John 3:6.

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Can you pluck souls out of God's hands or can't you?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Pastor,

I don't think I shall bother to go into the Word with you as you, are clearly not in Christ, and having never heard Him speak to you. 1 John 3:6.

You won't dare go into the Word with us, presumably because you keep losing.

[JennyD]

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Pastor,

I don't think I shall bother to go into the Word with you as you, are clearly not in Christ, and having never heard Him speak to you. 1 John 3:6.

Yes, Jacqueline, that's a lovely way to respond to God's Word. You fling an accusation at one of our Pastors rather than respond to the many posts of substance addressing your concern.

Why do you hate Jesus?