McCain stands up for Freedom!

[Bobby-Joe]

While McCain is a sissyboy surrender monkey in my book occasionally the Senator gets it right. Commenting on that vile, terrorist coddling ad in the Joo York Times calling General Petraeus "General Betray-us" Senator McCain said;

"It's disgraceful, it's got to be retracted and condemned by the Democrats and MoveOn.org ought to be thrown out of this country, my friends."

Read about it in this MSM news source

http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/09/mccain_calls_for_moveonorg_to.html

It is inspiring to see at lest some Republicans have not sold out the nation to Al Quida and are willing to stand up to liberal bullying when they see it. Thanks to the insidious work of groups like MoveOn.org the nation is three steps away from utter capitulation to the terrorist and it is high time these backstabbers pay the price for their wickedness.

If it wasn’t for MoveOn,org hamstring the government at every turn right now Iraq would be a Capitalist Paradise with lobster dinners for all and American troops would be staging victory paradise to the joyous calibration to the citizens of Tehran, Beirut and Damascus. The fact that Bill Clinton founded MoveOn.org to defend himself when it was found out he was having sex should be an argument for its banning and the imprisonment of its membership. The carrier of evil MoveOn.org has done since the 90s just proves it is a tool of our enemies.

Frankly America will have no peace until MoveOn.org is listed as a terrorist organization. I urge you all to call the Whitehouse and urge Bush to listen to Jesus and do the right thing.

[H. Montague Worthington]

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I'm with you, Brother BJ! Just when you think that sissified surrender-prone John McCain has turned his back on America again like he did in Vietnam, he comes out with a surprising statement telling it like it is.

In my book it doesn't make up for the disgrace and humiliation of being captured in Vietnam and cowardly giving away American secrets to stab his fellow troops in the back. What a girly sissy John McCain is.... He has a lot of nerve to show is face in America after what he did as a simpering, willing prisoner of war aiding the enemy throughout most of Vietnam. Disgusting.

Now if I had only been accepted into the Army during Vietnam, instead of being forced work on my golf game and serve the war effort as a Vice President at my father's bank and a regional fundraising captain for the Nixon campaign, we might very well have won the war. Oh, I rue the day I was informed that my polo knee would force me to sit out the war stateside! On the bright side, my stateside service for the Godly Republican Party band of brothers allowed me to meet and become friends with Dick Cheney, John Ashcroft, George W. Bush, Saxby Chambliss, Trent Lott, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Richard Pearle, Fred Thompson, George Allen, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Frist, Denny Hastert, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Armey, and Tom Delay. We would endlessly commisserate about how we were all tragically kept from going over to Vietnam and showing those lazy and ignorant troops how to kill some Asians. Oh well. What are you going to do?

[Bobby-Joe]

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I'm with you, Brother BJ! Just when you think that sissified surrender-prone John McCain has turned his back on America again like he did in Vietnam, he comes out with a surprising statement telling it like it is.

Right you are Brother Montague! If it had been me shot down in Vietnam I tell you it would have been Jack Bauer time with a lot more punching and kicking and a lot less of this McCain cry baby stuff about broken arms and being bayoneted. The reason we lost that war was that Libretard Johnson kept the A-List American heroes at home and pushed out those second stringers like McCain and Kerry.

[Brother Temperance]

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Now if I had only been accepted into the Army during Vietnam, instead of being forced work on my golf game and serve the war effort as a Vice President at my father's bank and a regional fundraising captain for the Nixon campaign, we might very well have won the war. Oh, I rue the day I was informed that my polo knee would force me to sit out the war stateside! On the bright side, my stateside service for the Godly Republican Party band of brothers allowed me to meet and become friends with Dick Cheney, John Ashcroft, George W. Bush, Saxby Chambliss, Trent Lott, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Richard Pearle, Fred Thompson, George Allen, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Frist, Denny Hastert, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Armey, and Tom Delay. We would endlessly commisserate about how we were all tragically kept from going over to Vietnam and showing those lazy and ignorant troops how to kill some Asians. Oh well. What are you going to do?

I was too young to serve myself, but let me tell you: if I'd been serving in a frontline position in the Texas Air National Guard, I'd have been sure to take out the dad of that gook goth kid, thus preventing Virginia Tech. You see, if only Swiftboat McCain hadn't betrayed America with Jane Fonda, we'd probably have gotten rid of gun control altogether by now.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I was too young to serve myself, but let me tell you: if I'd been serving in a frontline position in the Texas Air National Guard, I'd have been sure to take out the dad of that gook goth kid, thus preventing Virginia Tech. You see, if only Swiftboat McCain hadn't betrayed America with Jane Fonda, we'd probably have gotten rid of gun control altogether by now.

I hear you Brother Temperance. This shows you how sick and twisted the left is that they deliberately threw the Vietnam War this by doing their best to exclude the TRUE Patriots™ from fighting in it. If we were over their the Vietnam war would have been won in six days like Desert Storm or that war with Egypt in 1969, not lost in six years.

Brethren, perhaps it is time for the rest of you to share with us how with Jesus help you would won the Vietnam war.

[raylu]

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From OP's link:

The campaign has its own take on the quote:

Senator McCain, like most Americans, is appalled by the MoveOn.org ad. Last night he expressed his outrage in words that did not convey his intended meaning. What he meant to say was that MoveOn's smear of General Petraeus' character should have no place in the American political debate.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

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That's just his public relations crew. If he hadn't really said what he had meant to say, he would have said so.

[Bobby-Joe]

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That's just his public relations crew. If he hadn't really said what he had meant to say, he would have said so.

Yes McCain has to say that or the left will attack him for saying the TRUTH(tm) and the terrorists would win. However we all know what he meant.

[raylu]

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However we all know what he meant.

Are you a better source of the meaning of McCain's words than the people closest to him?
This is a slippery slope to arbitrary interpretation of others' words.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Are you a better source of the meaning of McCain's words than the people closest to him?
This is a slippery slope to arbitrary interpretation of others' words.

You, who loves nothing more than to mince words and play semantics games, want to caution others about being arbitrary?

Women should keep their yaps shut and stick with what they know: baking pies, scrubbing floors and popping out babies. Is that clear enough, rug-muncher?

[Bobby-Joe]

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Are you a better source of the meaning of McCain's words than the people closest to him?
This is a slippery slope to arbitrary interpretation of others' words.

Friend,

I interpret nothing. Jesus tells me what McCain really means.

[raylu]

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You, who loves nothing more than to mince words and play semantics games, want to caution others about being arbitrary?

Yes, I would.
I would also argue that it is you who are mincing words playing semantics games. However, I am even more against ad hom, so I'll refrain from doing so.

I interpret nothing. Jesus tells me what McCain really means.

You interpret Jesus.

[Bobby-Joe]

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You interpret Jesus.

What's there to interpret friend? Jesus talks in His favorite language American-English so were is there a translation issue?

I don't see what the issue is here. While McCain maybe a surrender monkey deep down inside McCain is on Jesus' side. We can take it as a given he would want rank traitors like MoveOn run out of this country for undermining Freedom(r) by saying what ever they want.

[raylu]

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It doesn't make sense for Jesus to prefer any language.

If he does, it's also impossible for him to prefer American English. His teachings originated in the Eastern Hemisphere. The KJV bible was translated to English - and it's not even American English.

But all this is meaningless; this isn't about translation. I have no doubt that, had Jesus really spoken to you, he would have done so in the easiest way for you to understand, which may be American English.
Misinterpreted is not the same as mistranslated. For a more concrete example, "I put him to sleep." could mean, literally, I put a child to bed or, figuratively, I pulled the plug on his life support. Words, unfortunately, do not carry any inherent meaning; they are assigned meaning by the listener (A.K.A the interpreter).

So, if Jesus did speak to you, it makes the most sense for him to put ideas directly into your head, instead of allowing misinterpretation with something as clumsy as a language. I find it funny that an omnipotent being would need something as primitive as we humans use to do something as simple and basic as communicating.

It's also rather funny that

Jesus talks in His favorite language American-English so were is there a translation issue?

contains two errors.

[Bobby-Joe]

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It doesn't make sense for Jesus to prefer any language.

If he does, it's also impossible for him to prefer American English. His teachings originated in the Eastern Hemisphere. The KJV bible was translated to English - and it's not even American English.

Friend,
Jesus clearly favors America above all other countries. We are the most powerful and wealthiest country ever to exist in human history. Clearly God loves us most of His children so it goes to follow that Jesus speaks our language, or rather we speak His.

But all this is meaningless; this isn't about translation. I have no doubt that, had Jesus really spoken to you, he would have done so in the easiest way for you to understand, which may be American English.

Misinterpreted is not the same as mistranslated. For a more concrete example, "I put him to sleep." could mean, literally, I put a child to bed or, figuratively, I pulled the plug on his life support. Words, unfortunately, do not carry any inherent meaning; they are assigned meaning by the listener (A.K.A the interpreter).

But we are not talking about people friend, we are talking about Jesus. He assigns the meanings to the words He says and we just listen.

So, if Jesus did speak to you, it makes the most sense for him to put ideas directly into your head, instead of allowing misinterpretation with something as clumsy as a language. I find it funny that an omnipotent being would need something as primitive as we humans use to do something as simple and basic as communicating.

Clumsy as it is God is perfect. He chooses to use words to communicate with us so it follows His words are perfect. Just look at the KJV1611 Bible; it is perfectly written in clear to understand language. If anyone has any problem reading it, it is because they are just too foolish to understand God.