[Julianus Apostata]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

Not only are you unable to read the Bible, you are unable to read the postings on this forum as well. I never mentioned any rulers, I have a very good eye so I don't need one anyway. I was proving beyond a shred of doubt that you are unaware of what is in the Holy Bible. Something you tried to avoid by quickly changing the subject. You cannot fool God friend: Proverbs 15:3 "The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good." Acts 1:24 "And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen"

You didnt mentioned Obama? Unbelievable lie. Look at this topic, at your posts about your president, your ruler. By creating this topic, you cursed your ruler, Obama unbelievably. Thats enough, I am astonished by your refusing of Scripture. Thanks for quotations - gives me right and hope.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

You didnt mentioned Obama?

I never said that I didn't mention Obama. Again you demonstrate your inability to read scripture and postings.

Unbelievable lie. Look at this topic, at your posts about your president, your ruler. By creating this topic, you cursed your ruler, Obama unbelievably.

I am not aware of any cursing actually. But I can assure you Obama is not my ruler. Jesus Christ is my ruler. Obama is not even my president as he has failed to show us his birth certificate, so he is an illegal alien illegally claiming to be our president.

And now it is time for you to stop changing the subject. I proved to everyone visiting this forum that you are unaware of scripture, are you ready to apologize to Jesus yet?

[Julianus Apostata]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

I never said that I didn't mention Obama. Again you demonstrate your inability to read scripture and postings.

I am not aware of any cursing actually. But I can assure you Obama is not my ruler. Jesus Christ is my ruler. Obama is not even my president as he has failed to show us his birth certificate, so he is an illegal alien illegally claiming to be our president.

And now it is time for you to stop changing the subject. I proved to everyone visiting this forum that you are unaware of scripture, are you ready to apologize to Jesus yet?

You seem to fail to see the point and, as you can now, its you who's changing subject. I was asking you firstly why you curse your ruler and since then you are trying to persuade me with suck trinkets as - he's not legitimate and so on, or attacking my awareness, but you are attacking only a problem you created yourself, sad.

So again - the Bible doesn't telling us that ilegitimate ruler, is'nt ruler, if his "ruling" actually is a fact, and our christian reason is guided by such facts which we are comparing with God's Words in Bible and through it - salvation.

You are unable to prove otherwise and you are cursing Obama - you are going to Hell and you are a blasphemer or a fool trying to make a point without charging me without a proof froma Bible. All you show us is quotations which are about everyone's own soul and I accused you rightfuly with disobeying Scripture. All what you will write in future will be another nets of uncertain relativistic lies or unlogical strucutres not base on Scripture. So I say farewell to you, sad man. I will pray for your soul and I forgive you.

Luke 23
34Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

You are never going to respond now are you? You will keep changing the subject to avoid admitting you are completely and utterly wrong.

So again - the Bible doesn't telling us that ilegitimate ruler, is'nt ruler, if his "ruling" actually is a fact, and our christian reason is guided by such facts which we are comparing with God's Words in Bible and through it - salvation.

So according to your logic, which is completely flawed, everyone who claims to be a ruler, no matter how illegitimate, automatically becomes a ruler?

Well, let's see if you believe your own nonsense. I hereby formaly declare myself to be your ruler! So according to your own logic I am now your ruler right! I command you to cut of your hands and poke out your eyes, in accordance with Mark 9:43 and Mark 9:47. Please post proof on this forum.

Again you have demonstrated to not know the Holy scripture. It's probably still shrink wrapped. Time for that apology to Jesus yet?

[Julianus Apostata]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

You are never going to respond now are you? You will keep changing the subject to avoid admitting you are completely and utterly wrong. So according to your logic, which is completely flawed, everyone who claims to be a ruler, no matter how illegitimate, automatically becomes a ruler?

Well, let's see if you believe your own nonsense. I hereby formaly declare myself to be your ruler! So according to your own logic I am now your ruler right! I command you to cut of your hands and poke out your eyes, in accordance with Mark 9:43 and Mark 9:47. Please post proof on this forum.

Again you have demonstrated to not know the Holy scripture. It's probably still shrink wrapped. Time for that apology to Jesus yet?

You are not my ruler, practicly. I can have only one ruler of our people. You seem forgot the whole quotation old man, which I find not amusing but again - sad.
28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

You are not ruling my country. You are not a ruler. You dont have a power given by our people. Dot. Nice try, but I dont see any honorable point but only perverted try to test my faith.

But I wrote that, but you seem you have a problem with that aswell.
"is'nt ruler, if his "ruling" actually is a fact" your ruling over me is not a fact, you were given no power over me in this world.


Please try to be more cautious next time. As I am not really amused to see brother in trouble. I will already pray for you this evening twice and I hope, you will soon or later be given Truth.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

Prove otherwise or remain quiet. I have to tell you, that if you like or dislike your ruler doesnt have anything with a faith, which is about suffering for Christ and absolute obedience to Scripture in seek for God. You are not a children to refuse a salty candy from God because its not a normal candy, just because of your pleasure in your short lifetime. Heaven and Hell matters.

Oh dare you talk to me that way! My grandfather fought in WWII! I am as patriotic as any other Christian American alive!

Show me in the Bible the name "Obama" and I will admit Obama is as REAL as an American as George Bush.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

Where is the proof?

[Julianus Apostata]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

Oh dare you talk to me that way! My grandfather fought in WWII! I am as patriotic as any other Christian American alive!

Show me in the Bible the name "Obama" and I will admit Obama is as REAL as an American as George Bush.

Doesnt matters. He's your ruler still, accepted by your people, legitibly or not. You shall obey him or face the wrath of God. Rulers of our country arent named in Bible, as many other rulers, making them not less legitimate nor able to do their office. Or prove me, that only presidents named in the Bible can be rulers...but still man, we are here in problem of legitimacy and not the fact that he's your ruler and HE IS. You cant deny it. You cant deny God's Work.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

He's your ruler still, accepted by your people

We never accepted Obama as our ruler. You are the first person I met who thinks he is. George W. Bush is still our only legitimate president, until Sarah Palin takes over.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

Doesnt matters. He's your ruler still, accepted by your people, legitibly or not. You shall obey him or face the wrath of God. Rulers of our country arent named in Bible, as many other rulers, making them not less legitimate nor able to do their office. Or prove me, that only presidents named in the Bible can be rulers...but still man, we are here in problem of legitimacy and not the fact that he's your ruler and HE IS. You cant deny it. You cant deny God's Work.

EXCUSE ME, You ever heard of ACORN????

55% of the American people were intimated into voting for Obama by COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS thugs!!!


Obama is no a legitimate president than Adolph Hitler was.

[Julianus Apostata]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

It's not a problem of legitimacy. He sits in his office, doing his work. Doing work as a president. George Bush presidency ended already. Obama is the official head of USA, ruler of USA, you are citizens of USA. Again..its not about legitimacy, its about practical circumstances - he's your ruler, not wanted, still ruler. You shall obey commands of God's Word. You shall not curse him.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

It's not a problem of legitimacy. He sits in his office, doing his work. Doing work as a president. George Bush presidency ended already. Obama is the official head of USA, ruler of USA, you are citizens of USA. Again..its not about legitimacy, its about practical circumstances - he's your ruler, not wanted, still ruler. You shall obey commands of God's Word. You shall not curse him.

The only reason God allowed Obama to be president to because the American people turned their back on GW Bush.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

28 Exodus: Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

It's still remains with the very same meaning. How could I curse the president, which was declared as one by this state and deputies of this country. I would be going against God's Words. That's not my path.
Now I will read what you've suggested.

You didnt mentioned Obama? Unbelievable lie. Look at this topic, at your posts about your president, your ruler. By creating this topic, you cursed your ruler, Obama unbelievably. Thats enough, I am astonished by your refusing of Scripture. Thanks for quotations - gives me right and hope.

Please show me the "curse".

I didn't see a curse.

Saying someone is not a legitimate President, and attacking his socialist policies or his encouragement of Islamofascism, is not "cursing" him.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cursing

An appeal or prayer for evil or misfortune to befall someone or something.

If you want to comment on Scripture, it would be wise to first learn basic English.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

EXCUSE ME, You ever heard of ACORN????

55% of the American people were intimated into voting for Obama by COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS thugs!!!


Obama is no a legitimate president than Adolph Hitler was.

Actually Brother, I believe Adolph's election was more legitimate. Acorn is a front for the liebral atheists, and lets face it, skewed the election in their favor.

I really don't see how anyone can consider him the POTUS, especially when he's shown how incapable he is of doing the job. But hey, if we say anything against him, it means we're racists, right?

[H. Montague Worthington]

Re: Barack Obama, America's WORST disaster ever!

Hitler started as a community organizer on the South Side of Munich. He paid off his student loans with the royalties from Mein Kampf.

Look it up.