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  • Shimei
    Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
    • Mar 2011
    • 203

    #16
    Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

    Originally posted by isabellealders View Post
    so im just wondering... it's ok for "god" to kill thousand of japanese people but it's not ok for a abortionist to help a women to maybe get something she hasnt asked for or can't give the unborn child a good life?
    to my opinion these people are needed just like any other doctor.
    The body of the baby belongs to the baby while in the mother's womb. Psalm 139:13-15

    Brain wave activity is detected one and a half months following conception. Killing a sleeping or comatose person is wrong. Do you think that killing a baby in the womb is different?

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    • isabellealders
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      • Mar 2011
      • 15

      #17
      Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

      Originally posted by Shimei View Post
      The body of the baby belongs to the baby while in the mother's womb. Psalm 139:13-15

      Brain wave activity is detected one and a half months following conception. Killing a sleeping or comatose person is wrong. Do you think that killing a baby in the womb is different?
      if its before 6 weeks i do think it's difrent,
      im not saying aborting in every stage of pregnancy is allowed.
      but in the first 6 weeks i think this shouldnt be a problem, if the problems that follow are bigger.
      aspecially for teen girls or in poor country's.

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      • Shimei
        Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
        • Mar 2011
        • 203

        #18
        Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

        Hello isabellealders

        Just curious, when God told Jeremiah He knew him before he was in his mothers womb (Jeremiah 1:5) is that a persuasive argument for God's foreknowledge and sovereignty? or are we to allow the field of science to dictate to us what constitutes life, that is, when life begins? If science could prove that life begins at conception would you change your mind? Please disregard or correct me if this is misleading, or the improper use of scripture for this case. I'm merely curious, why you think that it is alright for abortion to be performed before brain wave activity can be detected at this time.

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        • isabellealders
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          • Mar 2011
          • 15

          #19
          Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

          Originally posted by Shimei View Post
          Hello isabellealders

          Just curious, when God told Jeremiah He knew him before he was in his mothers womb (Jeremiah 1:5) is that a persuasive argument for God's foreknowledge and sovereignty? or are we to allow the field of science to dictate to us what constitutes life, that is, when life begins? If science could prove that life begins at conception would you change your mind? Please disregard or correct me if this is misleading, or the improper use of scripture for this case. I'm merely curious, why you think that it is alright for abortion to be performed before brain wave activity can be detected at this time.
          I understand and respect ur people's opinion about abortion.
          But i do think finding a combination between gods word and modern science is a good way to go.
          So yes i do trust science and believe that before brain wave activity abortion shouldn't be a problem . (ofcourse u dont hear me saying that u should have unsafe sex and use abortion as contraception)
          But i saw many girls who have a bether life now and wouldnt have had this is they kept there baby.
          We have this show now on tv called "teen mums", oftenly these kids end up alone without a husband living in poverty and so are they'r kids wich creats a vicious circle.

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          • Shimei
            Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
            • Mar 2011
            • 203

            #20
            Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

            So we should determine the value of life based on the quality of life that a person might live? Does that include birth defects, such as knowing a child will be deaf, or possibly blind? That could be a major inconvenience for underprivileged mothers.

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            • isabellealders
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              • Mar 2011
              • 15

              #21
              Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

              Originally posted by Shimei View Post
              So we should determine the value of life based on the quality of life that a person might live? Does that include birth defects, such as knowing a child will be deaf, or possibly blind? That could be a major inconvenience for underprivileged mothers.
              if ur deaf or blind u can still function in life, it would be harder for u but it's still possible.
              if u know ur child must live like a plant all his life, i do think abortion is a bether option

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              • Shimei
                Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
                • Mar 2011
                • 203

                #22
                Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                Originally posted by isabellealders View Post
                if ur deaf or blind u can still function in life, it would be harder for u but it's still possible.
                if u know ur child must live like a plant all his life, i do think abortion is a bether option
                Thanks isabellealders, I'll have to think more about what was said tomorrow.

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                • James Dewitt
                  #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 6267

                  #23
                  Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                  Originally posted by isabellealders View Post
                  if ur deaf or blind u can still function in life, it would be harder for u but it's still possible.
                  if u know ur child must live like a plant all his life, i do think abortion is a bether option
                  You must try and understand that when we are talking about retards and defective babies, it is the fault of the parents. 99.999999% of the time either the mother or father has done something to upset God. If God wants to kill that baby He will do so. We don't get to make that decision.

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                  • Bobby-Joe
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                    #24
                    Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                    Originally posted by isabellealders View Post
                    if ur deaf or blind u can still function in life, it would be harder for u but it's still possible.
                    if u know ur child must live like a plant all his life, i do think abortion is a bether option
                    Friend,

                    First, this a forum and not a IM text chat. Please try to use better English so the rest of us can understand you.

                    Second. The probably with your hypothetical is in real life you don't have that kind of absolute knowledge. The doctor may tell you that you baby will be blind, def and dumb but unless the situation is really gross, like the child has no head, he doesn't know for sure since all he would be working on is an ultrasound.

                    The only reason a doctor would tell a mother she has to abort her baby is because the doctor needs to send more souls to Satan.

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                    • James Dewitt
                      #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 6267

                      #25
                      Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                      Originally posted by isabellealders
                      Well my English is better than urs (whats you baby and probably? shouldn't that be problem?).
                      Im trying my best here maybe u should try in german, french or dutch?
                      We only speak American, that's God's favorite. Why do you hate Jesus?

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                      • isabellealders
                        Unsaved trash
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 15

                        #26
                        Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                        i dont hate jesus, i never said that. im quite sure he agrees with me and i dont think american is a language english american yes.
                        and why didnt jesus talk english american than ?
                        But ok i can speak many languages so i dont mind talking english but please respect that this isnt my main language and that i make mistakes

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                        • Shimei
                          Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 203

                          #27
                          Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                          Originally posted by isabellealders View Post
                          if ur deaf or blind u can still function in life, it would be harder for u but it's still possible.
                          if u know ur child must live like a plant all his life, i do think abortion is a bether option
                          Maybe Jesus wouldn't agree with you isabellealders? Jesus was known for creating miracles, after all, they were acts against science.

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                          • rudolph
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                            Warning rabid jooish supremcist.
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 30

                            #28
                            Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                            I respect your opinion if you are pro-life I can see where you are coming from, however what happens if a woman was raped and became pregnant wouldn't shouldn't it be her right to get a safe abortion?

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                            • Shimei
                              Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 203

                              #29
                              Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                              Do two wrong make a right? Which is greater, the sin of a mother murdering an unborn baby, or a rapist violating a woman? The rapist deserves punishment, does the baby? Wouldn't punishing the baby be punishment of an innocent party?

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                              • Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson
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                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3890

                                #30
                                Re: ATTENTION ABORTIONISTS!

                                Originally posted by rudolph View Post
                                I respect your opinion if you are pro-life I can see where you are coming from, however what happens if a woman was raped and became pregnant wouldn't shouldn't it be her right to get a safe abortion?
                                Of course not.

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