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  • 15.3IQ
    • Feb 2007
    • 57

    #16
    Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

    Christianity entails that God, like any other person, would say and do at least some things we would all see. Since we haven't seen such things, the Christian theory is falsified by the evidence. Christianity also entails that God would have made the universe differently than we observe it to be. So it is falsified again by the evidence. A failed prediction means a failed theory, especially when these failures apply to the very design of the universe itself. At the same time, there is insufficient evidence for any of the essential propositions of Christianity. So the Christian hypothesis contradicts a lot of evidence, makes numerous failed predictions, is not the best explanation of the universe we find ourselves in, and fails to find sufficient evidence in its own support. Therefore, I believe Christianity is false.

    Look, everybody! More plagiarism!! -OYK
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    • Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.
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      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 2373

      #17
      Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

      Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
      Christianity entails that God, like any other person, would say and do at least some things we would all see.
      Yes, it would, wouldn't it. Let's do a check, shall we? Hmm did He leave behind His Word for us to read? Yes! Do we see something that He created every second of every day? Yes!

      Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
      Therefore, I believe Christianity is false.
      Well sounds like someone had their mind made up before they even did any research. Your mind is obviously closed and filled with the devil's vomitus. Luckily for you, through the Grace of Jesus, we are still willing to hold out hope that your filthy soul might yet be Saved!
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      • Brother V
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        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 3481

        #18
        Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

        Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
        Christianity entails that God, like any other person, would say and do at least some things we would all see.(what about everything?) Since we haven't seen such things, the Christian theory is falsified by the evidence. (But I see things) Christianity also entails that God would have made the universe differently than we observe it to be. (Why?) So it is falsified again by the evidence. (I disagree) A failed prediction means a failed theory, especially when these failures apply to the very design of the universe itself.(The only failures are on the side of ScIeNce, where they continually develop new "theories" on the origin of the universe and of life) At the same time, there is insufficient evidence for any of the essential propositions of Christianity. (explain) So the Christian hypothesis contradicts a lot of evidence, makes numerous failed predictions, is not the best explanation of the universe we find ourselves in, and fails to find sufficient evidence in its own support. (instead you believe that the universe sprang from a tiny tiny tiny tiny ball, that held everything, exploded somehow, then things went flying out, became stars, became planets, and we happened to be at the exact right spot, and then the exact right thing had to happen for the primordial goo to produce certain thing, and then all sorts of bizarro mutations (evolution) occurred and ultimately we're here today; my friend, you believe in some outlandish things)Therefore, I believe Christianity is false.
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        V
        Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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        • Bobby-Joe
          Landover Security Superviser
          Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
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          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 18405

          #19
          Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

          Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
          how can you spend an eternity being tortured....it would get boring eventually and you have no nerves for pain....your ****in dumb
          Were is you faith in God friend? He would give you the nerves to resist the fire and to feel the pain. Remember all things are possible threw Jesus.

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          • Virginia Day Templeton
            Christ's Battle Axe
             
            • Dec 2006
            • 2827

            #20
            Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

            Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
            Christianity entails that God, like any other person, would say and do at least some things we would all see. Since we haven't seen such things, the Christian theory is falsified by the evidence. Christianity also entails that God would have made the universe differently than we observe it to be. So it is falsified again by the evidence. A failed prediction means a failed theory, especially when these failures apply to the very design of the universe itself. At the same time, there is insufficient evidence for any of the essential propositions of Christianity. So the Christian hypothesis contradicts a lot of evidence, makes numerous failed predictions, is not the best explanation of the universe we find ourselves in, and fails to find sufficient evidence in its own support. Therefore, I believe Christianity is false.
            Congratulations! You own a copy of Roget's Thesaurus. Give yourself a nice pat on the back... then douse yourself in gasoline and strike a match.

            We do have evidence that the Christian faith is true. IT'S CALLED THE BIBLE.

            2 Timothy 3:16
            All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness


            God wrote the Bible to show us how to live our lives, and when we didn't obey His Word, He sent His only begotten son to die for our sins. After this had happened, the most extraordinary event of all took place... Jesus rose from the dead and ascended into Heaven with the angels. This extraordinary event, historically documented in a whole volume of sources, is entirely unique to Christianity. No other religion can lay claim to it, and thus no other religion can lay claim to the Truth.

            Is this enough to convince you? Probably not. So allow me to summarize the almost innumerable Old Testament prophecies fulfilled during Christ's reign on Earth. Be patient... it might take a while.

            1. The Messiah would be preceded by a messenger
            Old Testament (Isaiah 40:3) says:
            A voice of one calling: "In the desert prepare the way for the Lord; make straight in the wilderness a highway for our God."
            New Testament (Matthew 3:1-2) says:
            In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the Desert of Judea, and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."

            2. The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem
            Old Testament (Micah 5:2) says:
            "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times."
            New Testament (Matthew 2:1) says:
            After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod...

            3. The Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah
            Old Testament (Genesis 49:10) says:
            This passage talks about a ruler coming from the Tribe of Judah, one whose rule will be all-powerful:
            "The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he comes to whom it belongs and the obedience of the nations is his."
            New Testament (Luke 3:23-34 and Matthew 1:1-16):
            Here you'll find a list of Jesus' ancestors, going back to Judah, who was one of the 12 sons of Jacob. (Jacob's 12 sons were the fathers of the 12 Tribes of Israel).

            4. The Messiah would enter Jerusalem on a colt
            Old Testament (Zechariah 9:9) says:
            Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
            New Testament (Luke 19:35-37) says:
            They brought it to Jesus, threw their cloaks on the colt and put Jesus on it. As he went along, people spread their cloaks on the road. When he came near the place where the road goes down the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of disciples began joyfully to praise God in loud voices for all the miracles they had seen

            5. The Messiah would be betrayed by a friend
            Old Testament (Psalms 41:9) says:
            Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me.
            New Testament (Matthew 26:47-50) says:
            While he was still speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, arrived. With him was a large crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests and the elders of the people. Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: "The one I kiss is the man; arrest him." Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, "Greetings, Rabbi!" and kissed him. Jesus replied, "Friend, do what you came for." Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him.

            6. The Messiah would be sold for 30 pieces of silver
            Old Testament (Zechariah 11:12) says:
            I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver.
            New Testament (Matthew 26:14-15) says:
            Then one of the Twelve--the one called Judas Iscariot--went to the chief priests and asked, "What are you willing to give me if I hand him over to you?" So they counted out for him thirty silver coins.

            7. The Messiah would be spit upon and beaten
            Old Testament (Isaiah 50:6) says:
            I offered my back to those who beat me, my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard; I did not hide my face from mocking and spitting.
            New Testament (Matthew 26:67-68) says:
            Then they spit in his face and struck him with their fists. Others slapped him and said, "Prophesy to us, Christ. Who hit you?"

            8. The Messiah would be wounded by His enemies
            Old Testament (Isaiah 53:5) says:
            But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
            New Testament (Matthew 27:26) says:
            Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.

            9. The Messiah would be silent before His accusers
            Old Testament (Isaiah 53:7) says:
            He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
            New Testament (Matthew 27:12-14) says:
            When he was accused by the chief priests and the elders, he gave no answer. Then Pilate asked him, "Don't you hear the testimony they are bringing against you?" But Jesus made no reply, not even to a single charge--to the great amazement of the governor.

            10. The betrayal money thrown in the temple and given for a potters field
            Old Testament (Zechariah 11:13) says:
            And the Lord said to me, "Throw it to the potter"--the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord to the potter.
            New Testament (Matthew 27:5-7) says:
            So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. The chief priests picked up the coins and said, "It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money." So they decided to use the money to buy the potter's field as a burial place for foreigners.

            11. The Messiah would have his hands and feet pierced
            Old Testament (Psalm 22:16) says:
            Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet.
            New Testament (Luke 23:33) says:
            When they came to the place called the Skull, there they crucified him, along with the criminals--one on his right, the other on his left.

            12. The Messiah would be crucified with thieves
            Old Testament (Isaiah 53:12) says:
            Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
            New Testament (Matthew 27:38) says:
            Two robbers were crucified with him, one on his right and one on his left.

            Whew! So there you have it. What are the odds that all of these prophecies would be fulfilled entirely during the life of one ordinary man?

            Matthew 26:56
            But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.


            Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus is God. If the evidence were any plainer, faith would not even be necessary for belief, and then God would have no reason to take us to Heaven with Him. Is THAT what you want? (Please don't defile our board with an answer.)
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            • Appelfap.
              Suspected Belgian - treat with caution
              Forum Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 130

              #21
              Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

              The Bible is more proof then all that "research".
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              • SalvationSeeker
                True Christian™ Theologian
                Forum Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 3892

                #22
                Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
                i have a book called the book of life...
                So does God, and you ain't in it!
                And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
                Revelation 20:15
                If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                Proverbs 9:12-13

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                • Pastor Ezekiel
                  Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                   
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 78556

                  #23
                  Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                  Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post
                  i have a book called the book of life...
                  Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
                  So does God, and you ain't in it!
                  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
                  Revelation 20:15
                  That was a typo I'm pretty sure Brother SS. He meant to say he has a book called "The Book of Lies". Written by his dark master satan no doubt.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                  • SalvationSeeker
                    True Christian™ Theologian
                    Forum Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 3892

                    #24
                    Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    That was a typo I'm pretty sure Brother SS. He meant to say he has a book called "The Book of Lies". Written by his dark master satan no doubt.
                    Yes probably.. Either that, or a mock version of God's true one. Also written by satan.
                    The anti-Christian persecution knows no bounds, these atheists and devilworshippers will think nothing about spitting on the most holy of things.
                    Even God's own books; The KJV1611 Bible, and His unpublished Book of Life.

                    And speaking of books, when will the next book burning event be held?
                    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                    Proverbs 9:12-13

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                    • Pastor Ezekiel
                      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                       
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 78556

                      #25
                      Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                      Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
                      Yes probably.. Either that, or a mock version of God's true one. Also written by satan.
                      The anti-Christian persecution knows no bounds, these atheists and devilworshippers will think nothing about spitting on the most holy of things.
                      Even God's own books; The KJV1611 Bible, and His unpublished Book of Life.

                      And speaking of books, when will the next book burning event be held?
                      Those are typically held during the Autumn, right after witch-hunting season. Although special events have been held from time to time. Ask Brother BJ, he runs security and book burnings.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                      • Rev. Dr. Davidson
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1439

                        #26
                        Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        Those are typically held during the Autumn, right after witch-hunting season. Although special events have been held from time to time. Ask Brother BJ, he runs security and book burnings.
                        Could we hold a special event to burn all of Hellary Rudder Cliton's books?

                        Perhaps preceeded by a good Witch Trial???
                        Last edited by Rev. Dr. Davidson; 02-07-2007, 02:12 PM.
                        "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
                        (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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                        • Virginia Day Templeton
                          Christ's Battle Axe
                           
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 2827

                          #27
                          Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                          Originally posted by Appelfap. View Post
                          The Bible is more proof then all that "research".
                          Of course it is. It was written by God Himself, while the agenda-driven research was performed by fallible humans under the guidance of Satan. I'm glad you're starting to come to your senses.
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                          • Wibralover
                            Confirmed Enemy of God
                            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 16

                            #28
                            Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                            Originally posted by Appelfap. View Post
                            The Bible is more proof then all that "research".
                            Research proves things.

                            OYFg Appelfap what are you doing I thougt you were on our side ???



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                            • Appelfap.
                              Suspected Belgian - treat with caution
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 130

                              #29
                              Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                              What do you mean with "OYFg "
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                              • Wibralover
                                Confirmed Enemy of God
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                                • Feb 2007
                                • 16

                                #30
                                Re: ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!

                                Originally posted by Appelfap. View Post
                                What do you mean with "OYFg "
                                read the white letters traitor
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