[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

"well, you're too smart for us, Mr. atheist"

You are funny, in that clueless ignorant kinda way. You sure have some delusions grandeur, or you are just sadly in denial.

Friend, you are just simply wrong.
Jesus wins again!

GLORY!

[AtheistAsshat]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

You are funny, in that clueless ignorant kinda way. You sure have some delusions grandeur, or you are just sadly in denial.

Friend, you are just simply wrong.
Jesus wins again!

GLORY!

Oh come on, at least try making yourself look like something that didn't come from a stinking pile of crap! Reply properly, damnit! I'm having to rely on debate.org to prove how stupid God is!

[Elmer G. White]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Oh come on, at least try making yourself look like something that didn't come from a stinking pile of crap! Reply properly, damnit! I'm having to rely on debate.org to prove how stupid God is!

Perhaps you shouldn't rely on any ORG but on the Bible, the KJV!

Reason: by having your arguments based on an ORG you are committing a fallacy, i.e., an apply to authority instead of actual proof. And IF you wish to refer to an authority, I think that your money would be better spent on an omniscient and omnipotent entity, our LORD, not on any ORG.

Of course, when referring to our True Christian™ brother as excrement, you also commit ad hominem and guilt by association fallacies. If they are not explained in your ORG, you might reconsider trusting the ORG. And to finish yourself off, there's a nice ad misericordiam.

The following area is reserved to the actual rational part of your post:
















Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[billyshoe]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Friend,

...Checkmate - Atheist!

[Scorch]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

4: Dinosaurs

Even after 3 months, my question remains the same: dafuq? So wait wait wait, you're saying that 200 million year-old reptiles co-existed... along present day men? That's a f*cking 199+ million year difference!
This goes hand-in-hand with my first answer: The bible isn't the ultimate truth. And anyway the "Noah's Ark" thing is completely scientifically impossible, fitting hundreds of millions of species of animals onto a F*CKING BOAT! And don't say that they only put a few species of mammals, a few species of reptiles because then they all would have had to evolve into all the present-day species we see today. And anyway, dafuq did God even want to do this "flood" thing? Couldn't he just you know, give every human a heart attack? Surviving for over a year in over 9,000 meters is completely impossible.

You know, I think there is a way how to explain the Noah's Ark thing and make it plausible from a scientific viewpoint. It all depends on perspective and sense of scale.

Think about it, when this story was written some 2000+ years ago, people didn't know much about the world. Information didn't travel very far and neither did people. One could be born, grow up and die in the same village, without knowing anything about the rest of the world. In fact, to you, the village was the entire world.

So, assuming that to you the "entire world" is your home village (maybe a few other nearby villages), the Noah's Ark is a very plausible thing. While it is impossible for flood to cover the entire world, regional floods are very real. So, let's say that the region you live in gets flooded. A massive, once in a generation flood, that covers the region (your entire world). You build a ship and decide to gather all the animals in the world, in order to ensure their survival.

How many species of animals you know? A lot, probably. Now, how many species of animals are native to the region you live in? Your state/county/whatever? An ancient farmer would probably have the "standard" set of animals. Pigs, cows, goats, dogs, cats, chickens and a few more animals. Perhaps 10 species of animals. Of course, there are a lot more species in the entire world, but if your entire world is limited to your local region, those 10 animal species would be "all the animal species in the entire world".

If you go by this, then some parts of the Noah's Ark sound rather plausible, don't you think?

[Alphonse Alban]

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Oh come on, at least try making yourself look like something that didn't come from a stinking pile of crap! Reply properly, damnit! I'm having to rely on debate.org to prove how stupid God is!

I'm sorry, your superior intelligence is too much for us. Your totally not-making-yourself-look-like-a-retard argument of "I. Don't. F*cking. Know." brought us to our knees (four dots with a curse word is just too much), then your coup-de-grâce argument "a F*CKING BOAT!" totally finished us.

Seriously, you are hilariously funny!

[AtheistImbecile]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Reason 11:

a. Atheists don't believe that anything created the universe.

b. This is silly because we exist! Something must have created us!

c. The Bible says that God created us.

d. So Christians are right!

ANSWERS
A. The Big Bang created the universe.
B. Evolution created us.
C. If we are going by that logic then, Spiderman is real.
D. No, you are not!!! GET ON MY LEVEL, N00B


P.S. I'm back, did you miss me? <3<3<3

[Didymus Much]

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ANSWERS
A. The Big Bang created the universe...

No. The "Big Bang" (actually, a bit of a misnomer, coined by Fred Hoyle, who disagreed with the hypothesis) is how the universe formed. The stuff of which the universe is made (what was "created") requires a different explanation (did it already exist, was it "summoned" to this dimension, etc.?) that present theory does not address.

... B. Evolution created us...

Again, no. Evolution is how we attained our present form, it says nothing about how life originated.

... C. If we are going by that logic then, Spiderman is real...

No one (except some uninformed lunatic on the web) is claiming that Spiderman is real.

...P.S. I'm back, did you miss me? <3<3<3

Like an infected hangnail.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

If you believe that the Big Bang created the universe, you are just substituting one god for another. Why not go with the God who can save your soul?

[Olasnah]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

If you believe that the Big Bang created the universe, you are just substituting one god for another. Why not go with the God who can save your soul?

Why would the Big Bang be a 'God'? It's just a process. Something probably led to the Big Bang, and something probably preceded that as well. Who knows. There's no dogma surrounding it. It's a pretty good guess at this point based on what we know, and there's plenty of scientists who perhaps push the fine details of that theory (inflation, etc) a bit too far, but it sounds good enough for now and given how much we don't actually know (which is a lot), and yet also DO know, it fits damned well. But, that all being said, much of what we have learned about the Big Bang has come by accident or as a result of investigation into the various facts surrounding gravity, particle physics, etc, so it's a process that also cannot be ignored. The fact that you weigh as much as you do and have detectable particles of a certain known property flowing through your body at this very moment point to the fact of the Big Bang as we know it. Much of our knowledge of physics has pointed towards something like the Big Bang, so when the Cosmic Background Radiation was discovered (by accident), it was a bombshell.

As for saving one's soul..... From what? Keep in mind, for us non-religious or atheists (and everybody else, including you), a 'soul' is simply a religious/philosophical concept. It has no basis in actual reality. It's great that your Bible tells you that you have one, but that doesn't mean you do, so 'so what' if that book thinks I need to save it from something?

[Didymus Much]

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Why would the Big Bang be a 'God'?...

It becomes a god when the not-really-atheist-but-still-an-imbecile above makes it into one, by saying that it created the universe.

Deifying the entire universe in that fashion does not get rid of God (or make one an atheist). His god might not be some beardy dude in the clouds, but he still definitely has one.

It's much the same process you encounter with New-Age "spiritual-but-not-religious" types. They believe in karma, yet when you ask "how does karma work, without a judge to determine guilt and appropriate punishment?", they mumble something about "the universe does it". So you ask, "why would the universe want to punish part of itself?" and get something like, "the universe works in mysterious ways". If you're not facepalming like I do at that point...

People like that still believe in a vengeful god, who will punish sin (but conveniently, only in the afterlife, so you cannot disprove the concept); the difference is that their "god" defines sin by their own moral and ethical standards (and because their god's morals align perfectly with their own [natch], they are righteous, more righteous than you could ever hope to be).

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Why would the Big Bang be a 'God'? It's just a process. Something probably led to the Big Bang, and something probably preceded that as well. Who knows. There's no dogma surrounding it. It's a pretty good guess at this point based on what we know, and there's plenty of scientists who perhaps push the fine details of that theory (inflation, etc) a bit too far, but it sounds good enough for now and given how much we don't actually know (which is a lot), and yet also DO know, it fits damned well. But, that all being said, much of what we have learned about the Big Bang has come by accident or as a result of investigation into the various facts surrounding gravity, particle physics, etc, so it's a process that also cannot be ignored. The fact that you weigh as much as you do and have detectable particles of a certain known property flowing through your body at this very moment point to the fact of the Big Bang as we know it. Much of our knowledge of physics has pointed towards something like the Big Bang, so when the Cosmic Background Radiation was discovered (by accident), it was a bombshell.

As for saving one's soul..... From what? Keep in mind, for us non-religious or atheists (and everybody else, including you), a 'soul' is simply a religious/philosophical concept. It has no basis in actual reality. It's great that your Bible tells you that you have one, but that doesn't mean you do, so 'so what' if that book thinks I need to save it from something?

tl;dr

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[TheLittleBoy]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

No. The "Big Bang" (actually, a bit of a misnomer, coined by Fred Hoyle, who disagreed with the hypothesis) is how the universe formed. The stuff of which the universe is made (what was "created") requires a different explanation (did it already exist, was it "summoned" to this dimension, etc.?) that present theory does not address.



Again, no. Evolution is how we attained our present form, it says nothing about how life originated.



No one (except some uninformed lunatic on the web) is claiming that Spiderman is real.



Like an infected hangnail.

Hi, I'm new here.

For the first.

What differentiate the big bang theory from all the others is that it is a scientific theory , which have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation and subject to peer review.

It's old news anyway, because it has already been 50 years since we discovered the Big Bang Echoe sound. You can even observe it yourself that everything in the universe is moving apart. If these galaxies are far, far away, and moving quickly away from us, this suggests that the entire Universe must have been located in a single point billions of years ago.



Secondly, the evolution theory. This scientific theory has been widely accepted in the scientific community as there's many observables proofs, such as: fossils, DNA, Genetic commonalities, Common traits in embryos and I could go on. People saying that we came from monkeys are pretty ignorant, as great apes are our common ancestor. If you want more info on evolution ask me. But regarding how life started, I would suggest you to read about abiogenesis.


On third: Bible. What proof do you have that god made the bible, why does it have so many scientific non-sense in it? I don't even understand how you people can believe it, even the god you worship is depicted as the evil one compared to Satan. The biblical god killed around 2.5 millions of people if you read the entire bible, not counting how he annihilated all life on earth except Noah and his buddies ( estimated at 20 millions humans killed during the flood). Satan only killed around 10 people to help God win a bet ( Job's family )

Speaking of noah, even his boat is unrealistic. Look at this diagram



There's a problem with Noah Ship's, it wouldn't work with reality. Let see the biggest wooden sailing ship made by highly trained ship builders, callled the Wyoming. Because of her extreme length and wood construction, Wyoming tended to flex in heavy seas, which would cause the long planks to twist and buckle, thereby allowing sea water to intrude into the hold (see hogging and sagging). Wyoming had to use pumps to keep her hold relatively free of water. In March 1924, she foundered in heavy seas and sank with the loss of all hands.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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tl:dr

Who are you? Have you introduced yourself in the mysteriously-named Introduction Forum? Have you read all of the stickies threads you were asked to read? Did you read the Terms of Service closely?



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Didymus Much]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

...What differentiate the big bang theory from all the others is that it is a...

Theory that says NOTHING about how the stuff that makes up the universe was CREATED, which is what I said.

...Secondly, the evolution theory....But regarding how life started, I would suggest you to read about abiogenesis....

AND LIKE I SAID, evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis (which is just a fancy word for the origin of life).

Please read what you're attempting to argue with.