[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I've never been in a cemetary, actually.

I take myself seriously because I have a stereotype to buck. I like to let people make assumptions about me based on silly ideas, and then defy them.

I already did it once tonight.
good morning, ma'am.

-Vampi

Piffle. You can't defy anyone because you are only an imaginary character on my computer screen. I have nothing to relate you to. Are you a nice girl pushing against being defined...like Cindy Lauper? Or are you simply being nice in a hopeless attempt to patronize the adults here? A failed strategy, I assure you!

Now tell me why you are here and what point you want to make (which we shall duly note) and move along. By the way, the DOF just sent us a picture they think might be you. Does this look familiar, or is this that other silly goth tart?

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Does this look familiar, or is this that other silly goth tart?

Perhaps not so silly -- "Chow Mai Pu Tang" points to Vampi's linguistic talents; a bilingual goth. But she might well be one of those poseurs who wears foreign-language slogans without knowing the English translation.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I assume that means: "Chew on my apples".

Song of Solomon 2:5
Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.

[Deluded 7th Gay Andwitless]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

vampi i think you are a good person to be so tolerant of these hateful bigots. i sent you a friend request. sane ppl got to stick together.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

v[...] sane ppl got to stick together.

I look at that and look at your name... see any inconsistencies?

[ColickyVampire]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Why are you here to torment us? We already know all about you goths, and your feeble attempt at fooling us into thinking that you're just a cartoon character isn't working. I know when I see you walking around that I should go the other way, there could be serious danger. Remember the Klebolds?

Yes, there could be, but that doesn't mean that there is.

Are you saying that there has never been a baptist in history that has killed someone?

If a christian killed a Goth right now, would you think of that as right?
Because I'm sure that it is a sin to murder. It doesn't matter who you kill, it is STILL a sin.

Why are you so convinced that we are going to pull a knife out on you if you let down your guard?

You don't know everything about Goths. You only know the stereotypes. And the stereotypes apply to about 1/1000 of Goths.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Are you saying that there has never been a baptist in history that has killed someone?

Of course not!

If a christian killed a Goth right now, would you think of that as right?

Absolutely.

Because I'm sure that it is a sin to murder. It doesn't matter who you kill, it is STILL a sin.

It's not a sin if God tells you to do it. It isn't murder, either.

Why are you so convinced that we are going to pull a knife out on you if you let down your guard?

Oh, I dunno.....COLUMBINE?!?!?!?

You don't know everything about Goths. You only know the stereotypes. And the stereotypes apply to about 1/1000 of Goths.

We know when people start to act out fantasies. That's the definition of what Goths do. It's also the definition of insanity.

[Vampi!]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Piffle. You can't defy anyone because you are only an imaginary character on my computer screen. I have nothing to relate you to. Are you a nice girl pushing against being defined...like Cindy Lauper? Or are you simply being nice in a hopeless attempt to patronize the adults here? A failed strategy, I assure you!

Now tell me why you are here and what point you want to make (which we shall duly note) and move along.

Pastor:

I cannot be imaginary if I am real enough to sign up for this site, confirm my account through another email, and have intelligent conversation with you. Correct?

You are wrong on both assumptions, sir: I'm not here to fight being defined, and I'm not here to patronize anyone. I am here to learn about how you see topics that are important to ME, as a person.

-homosexuality
-premarital sex
-baptism and repentance
-kindness v. "salvation"
etc.


I was raised Baptist, and I'm simply here to learn. But I pray you can see that not all Goths fit those stereotypes you cling to. Because to see us in this light is sad...

Surely we have put up arms against eachother because of stereotypes. This is a terrible way to think of a fellow human.

Perhaps not so silly...Vampi's linguistic talents; a bilingual goth.

I'm multi-lingual: I'm fluent in American English, British English (UK), intermediate in Spanish, and learning American Sign Language:]

That girl may or may not be a goth. It's very easy to put on different outfits and LOOK like someone or something else. I can't say she is or is not.


-Vampi

[Brother_Percy]

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I'm multi-lingual: I'm fluent in American English, British English (UK), intermediate in Spanish, and learning American Sign Language:]

Sign Language??? That's the language retards use! We know all about the Devil's secret languages, witch! Have you not read my Article on Braille yet?? You goth freaks are all the same.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Pastor:

I cannot be imaginary if I am real enough to sign up for this site, confirm my account through another email, and have intelligent conversation with you. Correct?

You are wrong on both assumptions, sir: I'm not here to fight being defined, and I'm not here to patronize anyone. I am here to learn about how you see topics that are important to ME, as a person.

-homosexuality
-premarital sex
-baptism and repentance
-kindness v. "salvation"
etc.


I was raised Baptist, and I'm simply here to learn. But I pray you can see that not all Goths fit those stereotypes you cling to. Because to see us in this light is sad...

Surely we have put up arms against eachother because of stereotypes. This is a terrible way to think of a fellow human.



I'm multi-lingual: I'm fluent in American English, British English (UK), intermediate in Spanish, and learning American Sign Language:]

That girl may or may not be a goth. It's very easy to put on different outfits and LOOK like someone or something else. I can't say she is or is not.


-Vampi

So far you sound almost reasonable, but the Goth/Vampi thing needs to be explained. British English isn't English at all. It's some conglomeration of old Dutch and Celtic as far as anyone can tell. No one I know can understand a word they mumble.

Insofar a dressing for a part, everyone I know dresses comfortably, in clothes from reputable firms. Brooks Brothers, Eddie Bauer, Land's End, etc., although lately they have a lot of qweers modeling clothes and some of them buy from Vietnamese sweat-shops, so you have to have your order dry-cleaned before you take it home!

[Mrs. Rogers]

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I'm multi-lingual: I'm fluent in American English, British English (UK), intermediate in Spanish, and learning American Sign Language:]

Hmm ... I doubt the 'languages' in red are true languages; UK English is but a pale version of Godly American English©, and sign language is basically angry deaf people giving the world the 'bird'. As Brother Percy says, it has a Satanic flavour ... flavor. I do beg everyone's pardon.

[Vampi!]

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Sign Language??? That's the language retards use!

Deaf people are just as SMART as hearing people, they simply cannot hear. They can lip read, and they speak English, they just have to alter it so they can better understand it.


It's just like being shorter than someone else: because you were born shorter than this other man, does that make you a retard? No. You just have to use a ladder or a step-stool to get things someone else may not need to use.

But this conversation is not about language or height.


This thread was started to ask if your child is a godless goth.
I am not godless, and I am a goth. I am not a witch, I happen to be able to learn multiple facets of language simultaneously.
And I have come to your forums to try and understand your point of view.

Have a blessed day, sir.


-Vampi

[Red Snowflunky]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You are supposedly a sophomore in college and you don't know the difference between 'impending' and 'impinging'? So how can you know what Japan is like? How can you know what ANYTHING is like? You haven't had enough experience to know. You ARE different than me. I have been all over the world, and I graduated college. I don't act out silly fantasies, and I dress in manly blue and tan clothing except in Church. I don't have to have red hair to prove anything, because it only proves you need attention. I expect you'll get plenty in Japan.

I am a freshman in college and I typed exactly what I meant. Impeding: to hinder. In retrospect, I suppose that "squash" might have been a better word.
Who ever says I act out fantasies. If I wanted to do that I'd just check myself into a mental hospital and do nothing but write out story after story.
My hair is not red, but I will occasionally wear red. It's my favorite color.
Different. Let's work with that for a moment. When you speak of the details of my personality and likes, I do suppose we are different. In general, though, a goth is (usually) a productive person, intelligent, quiet, but strong and willing to stand up for him/herself. He or she does have some mundane interests, he or she merely chooses to dress in black.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

because you were born shorter than this other man, does that make you a retard?

Shorter?? Are you talking about dwarfs and midgets, because God HATES those retards!

“No man who has any blemish or defect may come near my altar: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; no man with a crippled foot or hand, or who is hunchbacked or is a dwarf, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. For he has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. Because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary.” Leviticus 21:18-24

God cannot be clearer here - dwarfs, midgets, retards with spastic hands, disfigured or defomed freaks are not allowed even near a Church, because they are unclean in the eyes of God. If any retard sets foot inside a Church, it will 'desecrate' his Holy Sanctuary.

[Vampi!]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I know what it says.
You don't have to quote scripture to make your point, sir.
I understand it.
I simply disregard it.


I disregard it because I cannot trust it. The Bible has been translated many, many times before, into different languages, different versions and denominations. How do you know your version wasn't altered horribly to mock Christianity?

It would be a shame to know that everything you've been taught is a horrible lie.



-Vampi