[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

KJV: And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with the neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
NRSV: If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.
NIV: If a man commits adultery with another man's wife-with the wife of his neighbor-both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

The words in italics in the KJV were added by the translators to smooth out awkwardness occasioned by repetition of the phrase "commits adultery with."

This is just a small example of how over the years the bible has lost its literal meaning.

Well friend it looks like you brought up an excellent example of how the NRSV and NIV blaspheme the Holy Word of God as reviled in the KJV1611. I do not see how the Hebrew Bible has anything to do with this since we TRUE Christians use a Christian Bible.

[xtort (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

DO YOU EVEN REALIZE THAT HEBREW WAS THE MAIN LANGUAGE OF THE BIBLE??????

TAKE A FREAKING HISTORY CLASS YOU IGNORANT CHILD.

EVERY VERSION OF THE BIBLE IS BASED UPON HEBREW HISTORY.

CURRENT DAY CHRISTIANITY IS DERIVED FROM THE HEBREW'S FAITH.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

DO YOU EVEN REALIZE THAT HEBREW WAS THE MAIN LANGUAGE OF THE BIBLE??????

TAKE A FREAKING HISTORY CLASS YOU IGNORANT CHILD.

EVERY VERSION OF THE BIBLE IS BASED UPON HEBREW HISTORY.

CURRENT DAY CHRISTIANITY IS DERIVED FROM THE HEBREW'S FAITH.

Shouting at us won't make you better heard. Nobody here has difficulty reading normal text.

Did you read the link I posted for you?

God Himself ensured that the KJV was exactly what He wanted it to say. The "original Hebrew" is irrelevant.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

DO YOU EVEN REALIZE THAT HEBREW WAS THE MAIN LANGUAGE OF THE BIBLE??????

TAKE A FREAKING HISTORY CLASS YOU IGNORANT CHILD.

EVERY VERSION OF THE BIBLE IS BASED UPON HEBREW HISTORY.

CURRENT DAY CHRISTIANITY IS DERIVED FROM THE HEBREW'S FAITH.

Really friend, my history tells me that The Bible the KJV 1611 is translated from was written in Ancient Greek and that Jesus probably spoke Aramaic like most Jews at the time did. May I suggest you indulge in opening a history book more and your smug mouth less?

[xtort (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

In your opinion, do you consider me goth? A simple yes or no will do, and please, leave it at that.
Here's a recent picture as to help you in your decision.

[roserougesang]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

That reminds me,I haven't filled this out yet.


1-Frequently wears black clothing. Well, that's 85% of my wardrobe so you could say I wear black clothing frequently.
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. The only band t-shirts I have are a Nightwish one I don't really wear anymore and a shirt of my favourite band that my friend made me.
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. I go to a school with a uniform so I can only wear makeup on the weekends. I'm only really fond of black eye makeup though.
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols. I have a pentagram necklace and ring, don't wear them too often though because I have much nicer jewellry.
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. They can look amazing on some people, not really my style though.
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.) Marilyn Manson isn't gothic, for your information, he's industrial rock.
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically. Eccentrics make life much more interesting.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports. Never had an interest in any of them to start with.
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. They're all fascinating to study though.
10-Takes drugs. Never have, never will.
11-Drinks alcohol. Waiting until I'm of legal age, it's more fun that way.
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed. Everyone has their 'down' days...how is that 'gothic'?
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.) Nope. Occasionally stab myself with my nail when I'm bored, but that doesn't count.
14-Complains of boredom. Everyone gets bored. Does that mean the whole world is 'gothic'?
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little. Depends on whether I'm busy or not.
16-Is excessively awake during the night. There is a such thing called 'insomnia', you know (don't have it though).
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.) Nightime's prettier though
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy. Everyone needs their privacy.
19-Spends large amounts of time alone. I'm rather shy, so I like my peace and quiet.
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) See above comment.
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult. I've been spending time with friends unaccompanied since I was 5, nothing wrong with that.
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this. I try to be respectful of people if they're respectful of me.
23-Misbehaves at school. I do my best to be well-behaved.
24-Misbehaves at home. Everyone has the occasional argument.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this. I think you mean 'Count Chocula'. They don't have it where I live so I couldn't eat it if I wanted to.
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.) Fascinated with vampires, don't have a blood fetish though.
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) Personally detest most TV, reading's more fun.
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature. I love my RPGS.
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. Nope, not much of a metalhead.
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. Depends on the music.
32-Expresses an interest in sex. The idea of sex is fairly boring to me at the moment, probably will change in a little while.
33-Masturbates. Um.....
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual. Neither. Some of my friends are bisexual.
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism. I'm agnostic, does that count?
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth". Haha, I'm tempted to buy one of those just for a laugh.
37-Claims to be a goth.
'I'm so goth I fart bats!'

That was rather fun.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

In your opinion, do you consider me goth? A simple yes or no will do, and please, leave it at that.
Here's a recent picture as to help you in your decision.

Son, that is a photograph of some God awful half-breed chink/nigra mongrelization, and a homer to boot. My guess is that its a photograph you stole online somewhere and that you WISH it was you. My guess is that you are a morbidly obese white boy of about 15 years old, covered in zits, and that you spend all your time in a ratty old bathrobe in your parents basement eating cheerios out of the box, watching Oprah and masturbating repeatedly.

[xtort (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Son, that is a photograph of some God awful half-breed chink/nigra mongrelization, and a homer to boot. My guess is that its a photograph you stole online somewhere and that you WISH it was you. My guess is that you are a morbidly obese white boy of about 15 years old, covered in zits, and that you spend all your time in a ratty old bathrobe in your parents basement eating cheerios out of the box, watching Oprah and masturbating repeatedly.

Well, since you asked in such a polite manner, I shall answer your statements (not questions).
You are correct that I am a half-breed, but as to the chink/nigra mongrelization, you are sadly mistaken. I am of Irish and Carribean descent. The following photo was just taken as proof that the original picture was me. I am a 25 year old MAN who is 6'5 220 lbs. Is that considered morbidly obese? In your opinion. My time is spent generally at work, or at home, or at shows. Which reminds me, I took off from work tomorrow so that I could go to the STATIC-X show. And yes, I'll be making "satanic" hand gestures and shaking my head violently to music. However, while I am at home, I enjoy reading, working out, wow, my addiction to aquatic fish, and times spent with some very close friends of mine.

Does this organization have tolerance? I am not complaining, just curious, as to why you would arbitrarily bash someone based on their looks, when you could spend your time attempting to point out how to better one's lifestyle.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I will thank you to stop throwing yourself at me. I know that you probably fantasize about me being your sodomite love master, but I assure you that there is no chance of that happening, boy. You are not the first homer to try and tempt me into the carnal fith of boy buggery. I am a True Christian™ Man of God, and I am not interested in your limp-wristed tomfoolery. Get thee hence!

And wash off that nail poish nancyboy!

[xtort (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Looks like someone's so deep in the closet they are finding christmas presents.

Just trying to prove to you that the original picture was indeed me.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Oh my. I don't understand. Are you trying to make people think you're a girl with the nail polish and dainty hands? If so, the facial hair is a dead giveaway, unless you're trying to make people think you're a lesbimen.
I really don't get it. Why would you do that to yourself? God created you as a man, and that's how He wants you to stay. In fact, He gives quite clear instructions forbidding men to pretend to be women, and vice versa.

[xtort (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I find it increasingly humorous that just because I put polish on my nails so many people are quick to assume that I wish I were of the opposite sex. It is just nail polish my friends, nothing more. Why do people wear jeans, why do people wear hats? All the same reasons as to why I choose to wear nailpolish, because I enjoy it.
Women that wear pants, does that action make them a man?(or wishing they were a man)

Men that dye their hair, does that action make them a woman? (or wishing they were a woman)

It is just fashion, it is just paint, it is just nonsense. I would kind of figure that you all would have something more profound to say. I mean these are the same remarks that I heard 10 years ago in highschool. Can you all grow up please. Where is all the so-called biblical truths that you all claim to have impacted oh-so many evil-doers with? Either have something worthwhile to state, or please, just remain silent and wait for one of your brothers or sisters to chime in with some common sense.

(The reason I was holding the sign "daintily" was so that it would cover up a symbol that this group would find offensive. I have that much respect for all of you, and would never present something so "horrid" on this forum.)

[R-R-R]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Perhaps a bit far-fetched, but if we regard nailpolish as a part of appearance just as much as clothes - thus garment would include such things as nailpolish - then the following might apply to this case;

Deuteronomy 22:5


The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Do you know what this would mean? Your look, which you make increasingly more feminine by incorporating feminine aspects of appearance into yours, is an abomination unto the LORD.

On the other hand, if nailpolish isn't regarded as women's garments, then it's just paint and a different taste pattern. We'd need one of the pastors to confirm whether or not nailpolish would be regarded as part of garments...

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Does this organization have tolerance?

You can read an excellent summary of our views on tolerance here.

Women that wear pants, does that action make them a man?(or wishing they were a man)

Men that dye their hair, does that action make them a woman? (or wishing they were a woman)

Yes and yes.

Perhaps a bit far-fetched, but if we regard nailpolish as a part of appearance just as much as clothes - thus garment would include such things as nailpolish - then the following might apply to this case;

Deuteronomy 22:5


The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Do you know what this would mean? Your look, which you make increasingly more feminine by incorporating feminine aspects of appearance into yours, is an abomination unto the LORD.

On the other hand, if nailpolish isn't regarded as women's garments, then it's just paint and a different taste pattern. We'd need one of the pastors to confirm whether or not nailpolish would be regarded as part of garments...

Whether it's a garment or not, it's definitely effeminate.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

As an effiminate "xtort"ioner, he's banned from Heaven on two counts.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

THIS just in: a seccular school principal (and suspected joo) actually suspended Godly students who were objecting to the gothfag gangs that had infested their school. Jesus weeps.