[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

On the note of argument, I've seen disappointingly little solid evidence from you Jesus fan boys beyond Hell this Homer that and a few Bibles here and there, and lest we not forget Satan every other sentence. I hate to tell you that the Bible is not considered a scholarly source by most people in the position to qualify something as such for this sort of discussion. So your mentions of it have no merit beyond informing me of what you believe in, sadly means fact to you is fiction to me.

This is the only part of your inane drivel that I saw as requiring any response. You claim to have read the 120 pages worth of posts, so have seen nonsense about loving everyone and your other "arguments" repeatedly and soundly refuted.

The Bible is the Holy Word of God. It is how He has described Himself to us.

The Bible is the only way to know God.

Tell me, how do you and your "scholars" know God? If they do not follow the Bible, they are making up their own gods, in their own image. This is idolatry. Sister Lateefah has already quoted what happens to those who engage in idolatry -- they become Homers. Just like Catholics (such as Hitler and Father Mo).

Perhaps if you'd spend more of your on-knees time praying instead of engaging in Homerism, and more time listening to God than to your atheist "scholars", you'd be on track to Heaven instead of Hell.

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Oh thanks for writing back, I'm flattered.

Wonderful, keep vomiting forth your precious bible, say, can you do the Koran as well?

No I have not read the Bible with any enthusiasm, I think I got to page 2, Something about translated books that have been reinterpreted to yield non of it's original meaning is just sort of off putting to me.

Aww, Warrior in Christ you disappoint me, you of all of these righteous idealists should have managed to pick out that I am not here to attack your religion. Nor do I intentionally throw every Christian in the same pot as the Nazis, although I do find it interesting that no one has commented on the KKK bit. Jokes aside however, I think it's only fair to me that if you would call me a satanist because I am a Goth I will call you Christian because you are a Nazi ... or something of that flavor. On that note, No I am not an 'Internet Tough Guy' I'll leave that to you, thanks though.

Sista Lateefah, just to let you know, writing in the same manner that you speak does not speak well for your portrayal of intellect. Perhaps it be best were you to finish middle school ...

Enobarbus did you manage to pick out my misconception of all Christian churches having holy water out on your own or did you need eliot mayfield to help you with this? Oh and thank you by the way, I feel like a special boy now that you intend to use me as an example.

Speaking of special, I actually wanted to adress this earlier but it slipped my feeble little mind. Pastor Ezekiel you sure do use the word "retard" and variations of in quite frequently ... why is that? And can retards not be Christians either? Please enlighten me with your oh so nondiscriminatory word of wisdom of great spiritual knowledge.

Well I am short on time, so I'll end by saying that upon reading over your most recent responses I'm having a hard time convincing myself that this whole thing isn't just some sort of elaborate joke ...

Take her easy me mates!

[Enobarbus]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Enobarbus did you manage to pick out my misconception of all Christian churches having holy water out on your own or did you need eliot mayfield to help you with this? Oh and thank you by the way, I feel like a special boy now that you intend to use me as an example.

It is common knowledge. I can't credit that anyone wouldn't know. I have known since I was a child. To suggest that anyone with any interest in religion wouldn't know is risibly absurd. The problem with you is that you would need to be more intelligent and more knowledgeable than you are to realise how unintelligent and ignorant you are. It's sad, but I doubt that you are educable.

[Bwack Lizard]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I have long hair but I'm not a satanist OWNED!

[Sista Lateefah]

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Sista Lateefah, just to let you know, writing in the same manner that you speak does not speak well for your portrayal of intellect. Perhaps it be best were you to finish middle school ...

You need to take yo racist comments elsewhere. We does not allow that kinda thang up in this Godly Church! We is a tolerant church. Hell, I's so tolerant that I's gettin' married tomorrow to a man that had used to be a Christ-killing joo. Praise!

And can retards not be Christians either? Please enlighten me with your oh so nondiscriminatory word of wisdom of great spiritual knowledge.

You know, I has a son that be a retarded, and it break my heart, but he be hellbound just like every other retard out there in the world. I figure he had done somethin' before he had been born to tick off the LORD somethin' fierce, like maybe he had been touchin' himself up in the womb or somethin'. It don't matter, because the LORD had made His decision and when that boy be burnin' in Hell, I's gonna be laughin' at him just the same as I's laughin' at all them other ignant sinners. PRAISE! Here be some links for you so you can read or listen to what Pastor Deacon Fred have to say about the hellboundedness of them retardeds!

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Ah, but was the meaning preserved?

yes, I suppose it was

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Bread crumbs mi amigos,

I had really hopped you'd address the Bible or Nazi thing, that stuff is pure gold. Bummer

Might I add, at long last I have gotten a Homer comment!!!!1!one!

Enobarbus if you knew and my lover eliot mayfield had already posted about it why must you rub my misconceptions in even more, it hurts my fragile effeminate feelings ... As for my being unintelligent ... well I never said I was smart, just smarter than you babe. You see, I am capable of forming my own opinions and ideas, and not just spit forth the same quotes from the same book over and over again.

Sista Lateefah what I said was actually more of a personal attack on your intellect than racism. I do believe anyone is capable of being ignorant. But if you look for racism I guess you're bound to find it anywhere, maybe it's hiding in your bible too. By the by, shame on you for talking about your own child like that. The least you can do, regardless of your belief is love him as a mother. The one thing I will pray for is that you do not end up in too far deeper level of hell than I do, so I can look you square in the eye with your kid at my side and tell you that I knew it.

OnYourKnees I and my fellow scholars, love the way you put that by the way, have no definitive proof of god (existence aside) actually having any part to do with the bible. I could write a book tonight and say god said I should write it, correct, it would make me a liar but it is possible and you cannot ignore that. So because we do not have absolute proof that this Bible thing isn't just made up it is not a reliable source of information ... kinda like Wikipedia. Plus what I said earlier about it having been reinterpretatid and translated several times over and as we know humans are bias and it is impossible to translate and interpret something without including one's own bias in it regardless of whether some drunkard wrote it or if God himself defecated it on our drive way.

Ah, but was the meaning preserved?

can you prove it? And just for fun, do it using nonreligious documents ...

Now, I will make an attempt to use the same type of logic you are bombarding me with, tell me how I do.

The reason I am right on this issue is because my god said I was.

How'd I do? good? ... good.

And I still maintain my sceptisism of you people actually being serious.

[Deaner]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Sista Lateefah By the by, shame on you for talking about your own child like that. The least you can do, regardless of your belief is love him as a mother.

You are a serious piece of work friend. First you make racist comments towards Sister Lateefah and now you're attacking her retarded child. And you're shaming her?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

All history texts say Jesus was a Jew end of story, if being the son of god makes it impossible for him to be a jew, then he wasn't the son of god, end of story.

Really friend. And what history text would those be?

I assume we are talking original source here, written in period. Like say The Bible .

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

>Dimwitted blather we've heard a thousand times<

I'm sorry, did you think you'd blow our minds with the oh-so-original demand to "prove God exists without using the Bible"? Or the equally new and refreshing, "I could write a book and say God told me to write it, prove I didn't" routine. Wow, you must be a genius! Or at least a pretentious ass who can't bother to test out the Forum's search function before springing the same tired "brilliant insights" and "devastating commentary" upon us.

Tell ya what: Prove God doesn't exist. Prove us wrong, since you came to OUR Forum, a Baptist Church Forum, full of lies and accusations.

You came to us, so the burden of proof is on you.

And I still maintain my sceptisism of you people actually being serious.

My dear Doped-Up Gothtard, I assure you that we take God and Jesus and the Bible every bit as seriously as we take the eternal fires of Hell!

We are here to share the Truth about God and Jesus, as revealed in His Holy Word. If you are not interested in what the Bible says -- since this is the only way He has given us to truly know Him -- then you have no reason to be here but to persecute us for our beliefs.

Why is it you atheists can't leave good, Godly Christian folk alone? Does Satan command you to be so vicious to kind, loving people like us, who only wish for you to be Saved?

We just want you to experience Jesus' Unconditional Love! He'll give it to you freely, just as long as you obey and serve Him without question or hesitation for all eternity. Of course, that includes following the Law, as written in the Bible.

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Proving that god does not exist is not the basis of my argument, in the end this is about being a Goth and the threat your sort of thinking poses to being one. The way I see it is that you are endangering our way of life with biblical propaganda, this spreads to the media, creating the same kind of misconceptions of our subculture, just like the misconceptions about your religion. In words more familiar to you: All I want is to go to hell in peace and quiet, without your kind influencing my place in society.

Now as far as proving my the possibility of doubt I'd suggest to read over this http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...ral/occam.html
and
http://www.math.ucalgary.ca/~scollnik/balducci/bayes.html

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

All I want is to go to hell in peace and quiet, without your kind influencing my place in society.

Then I suggest you stop harassing good Christian folk, and be a good little Goth, grab a razor blade, and be on your way to Hell!

It's much easier for you to be left alone if you don't start making trouble!!

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Then I suggest you stop harassing good Christian folk, and be a good little Goth, grab a razor blade, and be on your way to Hell!

It's much easier for you to be left alone if you don't start making trouble!!

Unfortunately your hostilities disallow me from doing so.

[kikirnw]

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Then I suggest you stop harassing good Christian folk, and be a good little Goth, grab a razor blade, and be on your way to Hell!

It's much easier for you to be left alone if you don't start making trouble!!

Why would you tell someone to kill themselves? Thats a horrible thing to say, regardless of where you believe he might be going.

[H.P. Crowley]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Wow. It seems somebody forgot their little blue pills today...