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  • One-eyed Jack
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Nov 2007
    • 1092

    #16
    Re: is it a sin?

    I don't know if God spoke to Eric Rudolph. However, some of Rudolph's statements leave me skeptical about his commitment to Jesus.

    "Many good people continue to send me money and books. Most of them have, of course, an agenda; mostly born-again Christians looking to save my soul. I suppose the assumption is made that because I'm in here I must be a 'sinner' in need of salvation, and they would be glad to sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking this salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I do appreciate their charity, but I could really do without the condescension. They have been so nice I would hate to break it to them that I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible." Source: Wickedpedia
    (I can't imagine Moses saying he likes the writings of a mentally unstable German crip better than the Bible.)

    So while Rudolph's aims may have been righteous, I don't know if he received direct instruction from God. He's not a Baptist, though, so he's headed for the Real Hot Spot Downstairs anyway.

    ~~ OEJ

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    • narrowpathy
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      • Jan 2008
      • 318

      #17
      Re: is it a sin?

      Originally posted by One-eyed Jack View Post
      I don't know if God spoke to Eric Rudolph. However, some of Rudolph's statements leave me skeptical about his commitment to Jesus.



      (I can't imagine Moses saying he likes the writings of a mentally unstable German crip better than the Bible.)

      So while Rudolph's aims may have been righteous, I don't know if he received direct instruction from God. He's not a Baptist, though, so he's headed for the Real Hot Spot Downstairs anyway.

      ~~ OEJ
      God probably spoke to Rudolph and that's why Rudolph did what he did, but later he fell away. Rudolph may have said that silliness about Nietzsche in a moment of weakness (why, even God's man David had one!)... Perhaps, Rudolph was tortured in prison by those evil demonscrats or some moslem Afro-Americans.
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      • One-eyed Jack
        True Christian™
        True Christian™
        • Nov 2007
        • 1092

        #18
        Re: is it a sin?

        You are right, Narrowpathy. Rudolph may very well have been working under God's command when he bombed abortion clinics, and then later strayed off God's path of mercy and love.

        Man is indeed a fallen, flawed creature. Some have a weakness for Nietszche, some prefer Plato, and still others prefer to get hog-drunk and wallow around a king-sized bed with a 300-lb woman.

        Probably that last option -- the King Solomon option -- is more Godly than lusting after philosophical writings.

        Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Colossians 2:8

        I think you make some excellent points, Brother Narrowpathy.

        ~~ OEJ

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        • narrowpathy
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          • Jan 2008
          • 318

          #19
          Re: is it a sin?

          Is Clay Waagner Man of God? http://www.armyofgod.com/ClayWaagnerMainPage.html
          Last edited by narrowpathy; 02-01-2008, 09:32 PM. Reason: added a link
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          • Brother Temperance
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            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 15621

            #20
            Re: is it a sin?

            Originally posted by One-eyed Jack View Post
            I don't know if God spoke to Eric Rudolph. However, some of Rudolph's statements leave me skeptical about his commitment to Jesus.



            (I can't imagine Moses saying he likes the writings of a mentally unstable German crip better than the Bible.)
            It's probably best to refer to Nietzsche as a mentally unstable, syphilitic German crip, to distinguish him from the Pope. No, wait, that still wouldn't work.
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • Petal
              LBC psychiatric outpatient. Progressing nicely.
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 991

              #21
              Re: is it a sin?

              Originally posted by Mr.narrowpathy View Post
              To be the Instrument of God?
              i been prayin over your post, an lord God tolded me that you not needs to worry about weather it a sin to be a Instrumint of Him cuz He not gonna gives you that role evers but you always gonna be a tool, that be your consillashun prize

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              • JennyD
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                • Dec 2007
                • 9567

                #22
                Re: is it a sin?

                Originally posted by narrowpathy View Post
                Phinehas committed murder of two people. The sixth Commandment says, "Do NOT Kill!" (Check this cute site btw http://www.ainglkiss.com/10com/6co.htm)

                On the other hand,

                Numbers 25:6-8

                6And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
                7And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; 8And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.

                ----
                What I wanted to ask 'did Phineas sin?'
                In my humble opinion Phineas didn't want to kill anybody, not even when he took the javelin and went into that tent and even when he was thrusting that javelin, he didn't want to kill anybody. Our Lord made use of Phineas's arms (and legs), and thus not Phineas, but Our Lord Himself executed those two offenders.
                So, please answer my original question - "Is it a sin to be the Instrument of God?"
                I suggest you read all of Numbers, or at least Numbers 31. Numbers 31 will tell you exactly how God felt about the Midianites, and why they were all to be slaughtered (because GOD COMMANDED IT).

                No, warfare is not murder. If it were, then all our Godly American soldiers in Iraq would be murderers instead of liberators!

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                • sinner
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                  • Feb 2008
                  • 67

                  #23
                  Re: is it a sin?

                  Originally posted by narrowpathy View Post
                  To be the Instrument of God?
                  Have you been talking to them damned Atheists child? Of course, it's not a sin to be used by god...and every True Christian knows that! You need to have a good one-on-one with your pastor, I say...

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                  • anon11
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                    • Feb 2008
                    • 23

                    #24
                    Re: is it a sin?

                    So if god told me to go perform a satanic sacrifice it would be ok because he told me to? Also does this apply to anything? If god told you can you be alleviated from the sin?

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                    • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 12414

                      #25
                      Re: is it a sin?

                      Originally posted by anon11 View Post
                      So if god told me to go perform a satanic sacrifice it would be ok because he told me to? Also does this apply to anything? If god told you can you be alleviated from the sin?
                      It would make absolutely no sense for Him to do that, but if He said so, of course it would be okay. But that would be like Pastor Deacon Fred telling us to go pray to Allah at a mosque, or like Pastor Zeke telling us to give our guns to the government. It's nothing more than a pointless mental exercise.
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                      • Ezekiel Bathfire
                        Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
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                        • Jan 2008
                        • 22887

                        #26
                        Re: is it a sin?

                        Originally posted by anon11 View Post
                        So if god told me to go perform a satanic sacrifice it would be ok because he told me to? Also does this apply to anything? If god told you can you be alleviated from the sin?
                        Merely saying, "God told me to do it." absolves no one - it could well be that the person saying this is not being truthful and involving the Lord's name in a deception. Also, it could be that the person is mad or possessed by demons:

                        M't:4:24: And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.
                        M't:17:15: Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.

                        So if you are entirely sane and God speaks to you, then yes, you are part of His Plan.
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