[MitzaLizalor]

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Read the Bible! He didn't kill Isaac. I'll quote Genesis 22:9-12 "When they arrived at the place where God had told him to go, Abraham built an altar and arranged the wood on it. Then he tied his son, Isaac, and laid him on the altar on top of the wood.10 And Abraham picked up the knife to kill his son as a sacrifice.11 At that moment the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!” “Yes,” Abraham replied. “Here I am!” 12 “Don’t lay a hand on the boy!” the angel said. “Do not hurt him in any way, for now I know that you truly fear God. You have not withheld from me even your son, your only son.”" God simply tested Abraham's faith by asking him to kill his own son, and because he didn't hesitate he was rewarded! Maybe you've read the Bible upside down? God bless

Thank you for contributing to the forum. We all know Abraham didn't kill Isaac. No-one has said he did. God is always clear about His love for us and has directed us in different ways over the centuries and, of course, as individuals in our personal lives.

When people get confused as happens sometimes God has made sure there's a sensible arbitrator to judge the merits of the situation. I am not confrontational myself and would always settle matters privately when necessary but sometimes God's provision in this respect is necessary.

What sort of character do you think would be suited to this task?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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Sister Mitza, I fear our young friend has a problem with the point.




Good luck with her.

[Basilissa]

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Nah, I simply feel like he does things for a reason. He's nothing if not merciful,

Really?

Matthew 10:21-22, 34-36 (read the whole chapter here).
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
...
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

why would he just decide to ask me to murder when his own commandment after Abraham was to Not Commit Murder?

Well, because we have evidence in the Holy Bible, way after Abraham and Moses, of God requiring a human sacrifice:

Judges 11:30-39
30 And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the Lord, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
32 So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the Lord delivered them into his hands.
33 And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
34 And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
35 And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the Lord, and I cannot go back.
36 And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the Lord hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
37 And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
38 And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man.

God could easily have changed the turn of events. He could have made the daughter stay home and have a dog greet Jephthah instead. Or, He could have pulled the lamb in the bushes number again. But no - God actually wanted to have a young virgin to be slain as a human sacrifice to Him.

I think praying and asking the real God for a confirm is the wiser choice.

So, did Abraham sin by not hesitating?

God wants me to be wise,

Nope. God wants us to follow Him 100%, not trust logic and other wisdom of the world.

1 Corinthians 1:19-21
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1 Corinthians 4:9-10
9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.

[theholyspiritXD]

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I feel bad for your son. He has to deal with a piffleing retarded ass rad-Christian father. To be honest this complete and utter (STRONG LANGUAGE REMOVED) should land you a nice place in jail for piffleing child abuse.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I feel bad for your son. He has to deal with a piffleing retarded ass rad-Christian father. To be honest this complete and utter (STRONG LANGUAGE REMOVED) should land you a nice place in jail for piffleing child abuse.

You're suggesting raising a child according to Biblical Principles is abusive now? Cleaning a hard drive is mild compared to the discipline the LORD advocates (Proverbs 19:18). This is for the child's own good, as children are naturally dim-witted and cannot know what's best (Proverbs 22:15).

Jesus wants us to purge the sin from our children, even if it leaves them black and blue. Indeed, blows and wounds scrub away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being (Proverbs 20:30). We do this because we love our children (Proverbs 13:24), and want to put the Fear of God in them (Matthew 10:28).

[Dotty too]

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So when are you actually gonna get Overwatch banned all across America?

You said it would get banned when Trump became President but it's still going strong.


It's just gotten it's 24th hero and they still aren't stopping there and it's community is still around unlike other games which generate hype and then lose their following a month later


So remind me again when you plan to take action against this "sinful" game.

[Alvin Moss]

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So when are you actually gonna get Overwatch banned all across America?

You said it would get banned when Trump became President but it's still going strong.


It's just gotten it's 24th hero and they still aren't stopping there and it's community is still around unlike other games which generate hype and then lose their following a month later


So remind me again when you plan to take action against this "sinful" game.

President Trump can't do everything at the same time. He has to drain that swamp one atrocity at a time. If you Democrats would help, instead of trying to turn America into Mexico, it would go a lot faster.

[Dotty too]

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President Trump can't do everything at the same time. He has to drain that swamp one atrocity at a time. If you Democrats would help, instead of trying to turn America into Mexico, it would go a lot faster.

Who ever said I was democrat
I don't even live in America

[Alvin Moss]

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Who ever said I was democrat
I don't even live in America

Yes, clearly; you live in bizarroville, but, as you can see (I guess), your decorations identify you as a Democrat, a retard and an idiot. Thus, you are a Democrat. Your obtuse, obstinate and juvenile behavior would identify you, even if such identification had not already been made.

[Dotty too]

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Yes, clearly; you live in bizarroville, but, as you can see (I guess), your decorations identify you as a Democrat, a retard and an idiot. Thus, you are a Democrat. Your obtuse, obstinate and juvenile behavior would identify you, even if such identification had not already been made.

Haven't heard of Bizarroville before where's that?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Haven't heard of Bizarroville before where's that?

Before Mr Trump took the reins it was 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20500 U.S.

USA!
USA!
YIC!

[Dotty too]

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Sounds like a comic book city the more I think about it

We have Gotham, Metropolis and Bizarroville!


Wait no now it doesn't sound good anymore

[MitzaLizalor]

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Sounds like a comic book city the more I think about it

We have Gotham, Metropolis and Bizarroville.

Please stop flirting with Mr Moss he is not interested in you.

[Dotty too]

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Please stop flirting with Mr Moss he is not interested in you.

How on earth was I flirting?

[MitzaLizalor]

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And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

You were saying?

Please read everything from top to bottom before and after this verse was quoted before saying anything else

EZEKIEL 5.–.9 . KJV . look up

5:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This is Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries that are round about her.

6-17 And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye multiplied more than the nations that are round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the nations that are round about you; Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations. And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations. Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments in thee, and the whole remnant of thee will I scatter into all the winds. Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity. A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them. Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the LORD have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them. Moreover I will make thee waste, and a reproach among the nations that are round about thee, in the sight of all that pass by. So it shall be a reproach and a taunt, an instruction and an astonishment unto the nations that are round about thee, when I shall execute judgments in thee in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I the LORD have spoken it. When I shall send upon them the evil arrows of famine, which shall be for their destruction, and which I will send to destroy you: and I will increase the famine upon you, and will break your staff of bread: So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, and they shall bereave thee; and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it.

6:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2-3c Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them, And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys;

3d-14 Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places. And your altars shall be desolate, and your images shall be broken: and I will cast down your slain men before your idols. And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars. In all your dwellingplaces the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished. And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the LORD. Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries. And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils which they have committed in all their abominations. And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that I would do this evil unto them. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence. He that is far off shall die of the pestilence; and he that is near shall fall by the sword; and he that remaineth and is besieged shall die by the famine: thus will I accomplish my fury upon them. Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols. So will I stretch out my hand upon them, and make the land desolate, yea, more desolate than the wilderness toward Diblath, in all their habitations: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

7:1-2a Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel;

2b-27 An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. Now is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense upon thee all thine abominations. And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. Thus saith the Lord GOD; An evil, an only evil, behold, is come. An end is come, the end is come: it watcheth for thee; behold, it is come. The morning is come unto thee, O thou that dwellest in the land: the time is come, the day of trouble is near, and not the sounding again of the mountains. Now will I shortly pour out my fury upon thee, and accomplish mine anger upon thee: and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense thee for all thine abominations. And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the LORD that smiteth. Behold the day, behold, it is come: the morning is gone forth; the rod hath blossomed, pride hath budded. Violence is risen up into a rod of wickedness: none of them shall remain, nor of their multitude, nor of any of theirs: neither shall there be wailing for them. The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller mourn: for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof. For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, although they were yet alive: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof, which shall not return; neither shall any strengthen himself in the iniquity of his life. They have blown the trumpet, even to make all ready; but none goeth to the battle: for my wrath is upon all the multitude thereof. The sword is without, and the pestilence and the famine within: he that is in the field shall die with the sword; and he that is in the city, famine and pestilence shall devour him. But they that escape of them shall escape, and shall be on the mountains like doves of the valleys, all of them mourning, every one for his iniquity. All hands shall be feeble, and all knees shall be weak as water. They shall also gird themselves with sackcloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads. They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity. As for the beauty of his ornament, he set it in majesty: but they made the images of their abominations and of their detestable things therein: therefore have I set it far from them. And I will give it into the hands of the strangers for a prey, and to the wicked of the earth for a spoil; and they shall pollute it. My face will I turn also from them, and they shall pollute my secret place: for the robbers shall enter into it, and defile it. Make a chain: for the land is full of bloody crimes, and the city is full of violence. Wherefore I will bring the worst of the heathen, and they shall possess their houses: I will also make the pomp of the strong to cease; and their holy places shall be defiled. Destruction cometh; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none. Mischief shall come upon mischief, and rumour shall be upon rumour; then shall they seek a vision of the prophet; but the law shall perish from the priest, and counsel from the ancients. The king shall mourn, and the prince shall be clothed with desolation, and the hands of the people of the land shall be troubled: I will do unto them after their way, and according to their deserts will I judge them; and they shall know that I am the LORD.

8:1-16 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me. Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber. And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy. And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain. Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry. He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations. And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall. Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door. And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about. And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up. Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth. He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do. Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

9:1a He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying,

1b-5 Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
8-9 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem? Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.


I'm not sure how far around you wanted us to read but do notice in chapter 9 verse 6 that the commandment is to Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women which is a form of mercy enhanced beyond the opening chapters and recall, from your Bible knowledge, what God's ultimate decision was regarding these people. It's in Matthew 21 as you already know of course but there may be others reading.

then read the chapter in Exodus where Moses read out the 10 commandments made by God.
Highlight and underline "You shall not murder" and then come back.

OK, I'm back. For brevity I'll just link to my search results with Scripture reference appended and it's easy for anyone interested to check for themselves:


EXODUS 20
EXODUS 34
LEVITICUS 19
DEUTERONOMY 5

Can you see which passages I've searched? If I'm looking in the wrong place, let me know and I'll post the complete list of 613 Commandments with as many chapters of context as you care to require.

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God loves us and wants us all to go to Heaven. Not everyone will accept His plan in this respect and those people go somewhere else. Just to make sure we understand the gravity of the situation, God has listed the consequences chosen by everyone who rejects His Perfect Love and these have been collected in the case of The Ten Commandments for you here: