[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I guess I cant knock your 'Inspire' reasoning about the Homemades Reverend, other than if a child decides to actually start making weapons and the parents STILL dont take notice, then we be screwed.
You've also not mentioned the 'Hacking' I brought up. But I guess your gonna say 'inspire' as well.
You take alot of this game out of context as well, but I assume that THAT does not concern you, only the content.

That is rather disingenuous of you friend; the game teaches childern out to engage in evil acts and hide them. You dismiss these concerns by claiming the parent's fault for not being alert to the very tricks this game is teaching the childern to pull. Parents have far more important things to do than just worried about what their child is up to.

[Stevie]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Let me address the issues that Cyanide brought up.

1. There is indeed prostitution in the game. In Moriarty's Bar there is a woman, I forget her name, but she is obviously a prostitute. She gives you the option to rent a room with her! While no actual sex act is shown, you can clearly solicit prostitutes and fornicate with them.
2. The homemade weapons can inspire kids to make their own. After playing with these weapons, they might think it kind of fun to make their own in real life! While these weapons themselves can't be made in real life with the parts in the game, creative gamers could find ways to make their own "dart guns" and "shishkebabs" (flaming sword).

I refuse to change anything in the original article because I have played the game and know what is in it.

How many prostitutes have you banged since playing the game or how many weapons have you made so you could go out and kill the post apocalyptic marauders crashing through your neighborhood? Contrary to your twisted beliefs, kids are not stupid. They know it's a game. I have three children all boys all smart, one has graduated collage the other two are in collage.

[Stevie]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

How many prostitutes have you banged since playing the game or how many weapons have you made so you could go out and kill the post apocalyptic marauders crashing through your neighborhood? Contrary to your twisted beliefs, kids are not stupid. They know it's a game. I have three children all boys all smart, one has graduated collage the other two are in collage.

I forgot to mention all gamers. I play video games myself. To the best of my knowledge, I've never killed anyone.

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I just received this from a moderator:

Dear CyanideJay,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forums.

Reason: Insinuating Brother Nobar is a child molester obsessed with grammar and punctuation
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This post of your is completely out of line. You need to apologize to Brother Nobar immediately.

I didnt understand why, but now see that, obviously, people think the worst of me. I, IN NO WAY, called him a 'Child Molester', and dont even see where that comes from.
Nor did I say he was 'Obsessed with grammer' merely the content of his insults was childish: Nobar has insulted several people with no contributon to the conversation, other than to 'Flame', or berate.
Again, words taken out of context.

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

That is rather disingenuous of you friend; the game teaches childern out to engage in evil acts and hide them. You dismiss these concerns by claiming the parent's fault for not being alert to the very tricks this game is teaching the childern to pull. Parents have far more important things to do than just worried about what their child is up to.

The game does not 'teach' anything, anymore than the novel 'The Road' teaches anything. And Parent has more to do than worrying about there Kids? I was speaking in context of Kids realistically making REAL weapons, which is not something you can just do willy-nilly. If a parent does not notice there kids fashioning Dynamite in the Garage or making Zip-Guns, which is a pretty big thing to NOT notice, than perhaps someone wasnt up to the task of raising a child.

[Stevie]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I just received this from a moderator:

Dear CyanideJay,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forums.

Reason: Insinuating Brother Nobar is a child molester obsessed with grammar and punctuation
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This post of your is completely out of line. You need to apologize to Brother Nobar immediately.

I didnt understand why, but now see that, obviously, people think the worst of me. I, IN NO WAY, called him a 'Child Molester', and dont even see where that comes from.
Nor did I say he was 'Obsessed with grammer' merely the content of his insults was childish: Nobar has insulted several people with no contributon to the conversation, other than to 'Flame', or berate.
Again, words taken out of context.

LOL look at your rep...

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Yeah, I swear Im a nice guy too! I try my best not to insult anyone, and even my rated-PG insults get twisted to abyssmal filth.
I could point out where Nobar has said some pretty mean things, but that aint my style.

"Life ain't all sunshine and rainbows. Its a very mean, and nasty place and I dont care who you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you permantly there if you let it. You, me, nobody, is gonna hit as hard as life. But it aint about how hard you can hit, its about how hard you can get hit, and keeping moving forward, how much you can take, and kepp moving forward!"

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

The game does not 'teach' anything, anymore than the novel 'The Road' teaches anything. And Parent has more to do than worrying about there Kids? I was speaking in context of Kids realistically making REAL weapons, which is not something you can just do willy-nilly. If a parent does not notice there kids fashioning Dynamite in the Garage or making Zip-Guns, which is a pretty big thing to NOT notice, than perhaps someone wasnt up to the task of raising a child.

Funny how your though goes to a novel that is nothing more that a collection of pornographic accounts of rape followed by cannibalism.

[Stevie]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'll bet if you did a little tithing to landrover your approval rating would go up.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I'll bet if you did a little tithing to landrover your approval rating would go up.

Or if he said something intelligent and witty.

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Funny how your though goes to a novel that is nothing more that a collection of pornographic accounts of rape followed by cannibalism.

Its a post-apocolyptic story, and my point was that they both TEACH NOTHING! Its entertainment, and what YOU take from it is what YOU take from it. Where you see accounts of rape and cannibalism (which yes, occur in 'The Road'), I see a frightening portrayal of the Human condition after society has collapsed, a great narrative about survival in such a dystopian world, and what can happen, both good and bad, to person in such a morally bankrupt existence.
You just see Rape and Cannibals? Sorry, but you missing out on a great story if that is all you see and took from it.

[SuperColin]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Fallout 3 rules.

Its just a video game people.

srsly

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You seem to characterize gamers and those who make games as idiots. Maybe you should write billions of line of code and then tell me how easy it was.

I don't where this whole thing started, but games don't make people kill people! You treat this game like some sort of the murder simulator when that is hardly the case. Shooting a gun is nothing like holding a controller and using joysticks to aim. Games don't have the negative effects the ignorant cast on them. I've been playing games all my life and I've never had a murderous thought, and I'm not at all violent. I have plenty of friends who are gamers, and none of them are aggressive psychopaths.

I happen to have my MCSE as a C, C# and C++ programmer. Fairly well versed in assembler and machine too. So I suspect I know what game design is all about. Each game is not written from scratch. Typically, over 80% of the code comes from out side commercial sources as a series of modules. Interface coding is done to link these modules, game specific coding is done than it is compiled. So if you add up all the lines, it comes to billions. Saying a game took billions of lines of code is the same thing as you creating a spreadsheet and claiming it took you billions of lines of code to create it. I do not mean to belittle coders at game companies, they do some really cool stuff, a lot of coding but not ell of it. be realistic.

No, games do not make people kill. They show them how easy it is to do.

Nearly every gamer that has come on this site has had mental issues. All have had serious OCD. To be honest, if they were not so obsessed, they would not bother to post here. Rodney Dangerfield said it well. (I may not have this 100% accurate) "I do not want to be a member of any club that wants me as a member".

[SuperColin]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I seriously dont understand how this game is "satanic" in anyway.

1. Its rated mature for a reason. meaning kids should'nt be playing it anyway.
2. After a nuclear apocalypse,nothing is gonna be rainbows and sunshine. If you sit around waiting for god to send you some food or clean water, you will get killed by someone for the clothes on your back or the meat on your body.
3. You do realize that when most of the food is irradiated, cannibalization is a simple mean of nutrition. I'm not saying its right by any means, but its called survival. look it up.
4. If you think there isnt gonna be a nuclear war because "God wouldn't allow it" then you must be very ignorant. God lets us make our own choices. Look at all these wars we've had.

I do believe in God and have accepted Jesus as my savior, but you people are just... ignorant...

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Superduper, this is not a slope you want to ski with this people....