[Nobar King]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

The protagonist in the DOOM series is constantly killing demons. I think that's commendable.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

As a kid, I played Doom. All the time. Doom 2 was another great game.
And you know something funny? I never had the urge to bring a gun to school and go on a shooting spree.
I still play, and in fact, just played a little while ago, and I don't feel driven to go on a murdering spree around my neighborhood or bow down and worship Satan.

Sorry, but I'm tired of hearing this irrational argument from video game supporters. No one is saying a video game will make everyone want to kill, and just because you didn't feel the effects, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others.

It's the old, illogical argument: I do X, and Y has never happened, so X does not cause Y.

Let's apply this in different cases. How about drunk driving? "I always drive drunk and I've never been in a car accident. Therefore it's stupid to think that drunk driving kills people."

"I've swam in the ocean many times and have never been attacked by a shark. So it's obvious that sharks never attack people."

"I played a game of Russian Roulette once and I survived. People that say Russian Roulette kills are just idiots!"

[retroman000]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

Great. So it's pro-communism

How does it support communism?

and teaches children that women are terrifying creatures that spit acid and were once used to store gardening implements.

No, plus there is a woman on your team. And I have no idea where you got the gardening thing from.

[MasterOfReality1971]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

The protagonist in the DOOM series is constantly killing demons. I think that's commendable.

Thank you for agreeing!

Personally, I think your signature's quote with that individual stating that you're the most intelligent person here is spot-on, sir

As to Mr. Osborne's post,

If Doom had effects on the behavior of so many people, why didn't America have millions of shooting sprees in the 1990s? The game sold many copies, and yet the most that ended up happening that could even remotely be linked to Doom was Columbine, and in that case, both Harris and Klebold were both shown to have a history of mental problems and clinical depression before the game ever existed.

I'd say the vast majority of people out there (we're talking millions here, sir) didn't go and kill people after playing the game. All Doom players, except a handful of the wackos, are, as we speak, continuing their lives normally just like any of us.

[MasterOfReality1971]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

Sorry for the double post, but I also forgot to mention that Columbine happened a whole 6 years (or was it five?) after the release of the game, not immediately after its release. By 1999, many other games had been released, but since they just happened to play Doom, the media tried to link the fact with the event.

If anything, the game probably quenched many religious folks' desires to rid the world of and punish demons. I know that was certainly one of my favorite parts about the game.

[SpartanBennett]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

I've spent all evening looking at pictures of this game. It is truly horrifying that this is being marketed to our children!

Here we see a mockery made of Christ's blood, as it is carelessly spattered all over the screen:



However, extensive research and prayer (mostly prayer, praise Him), have led me to conclude this game is a recruiting tool for necrophiliacs. That's right.

Most if not all of the zombies in this game are scantily dressed and are basically there to entice young boys to engage in sexual relations with corpses.

Observe:



This abomination is called a witch apparently, and is not only a plug for necrophilia but witchcraft as well, which the Bible specifically condemns:



Notice this zombie shamefully exposing her midsection. I can promise you that most young men had never seen this much of a woman revealed prior to buying this game.



Let's face it. Sex sells. And this thing's only purpose is to rape players over and over:



Finally I've attached an image I found and saved to my computer so that I can be reminded daily how offensive this game is. This really says it all:

"Hey kids, kill policemen and military officials!"

Valve software is raising a generation of domestic terrorists!

Have you played the game? I've played about 80 hours and fyi, the "Rapist" zombie is a special infected called a Jockey, basically his task his to steer a survivor to away from the other survivors or steer one towards danger.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Have you played the game? I've played about 80 hours and fyi, the "Rapist" zombie is a special infected called a Jockey, basically his task his to steer a survivor to away from the other survivors or steer one towards danger.

80 hours wasted that you could have used to study the Bible. Such a shame.

[SpartanBennett]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

Thats 80 hours over a one year period, thats actually pretty small compared to some of my friends

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

Thats 80 hours over a one year period, thats actually pretty small compared to some of my friends

So you did spend at least 80 hours reading your Bible over the last year?

Why not head over to the introduction forum The introduction forum?

Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

[RustyKyle]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

going to a christian school, i do understand most aspects of religion, but i do not see why anyone would have to enforce a ban on a video game, because they think that their religion is right, and should be forced onto other people, understandably i see why you would not like any games with such violence or sex acts, but really if you want other people to join our religion you shouldn't push so much on how right you feel about things you do like this, if i where in a city where the games i want are banned and you still want me in your religion, would you think that i would convert? other than that i would get the game off eBay or other sites of such, i do own the game left 4 dead and left 4 dead 2, but seeing as it is, i don't see much harm done to the people who are playing it, its all in the imagination, if anyone where to try do copy anything off the video games, im sure left 4 dead would be the least of anyone's problems

[boltspeedman]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

I think Left 4 Dead is a pretty cool game, ti is fun and it doesn't afraid of anything
I play it 5 hours every day while I listen to rap music.

[qwertyuio]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

God gave us freedom of choice. It is not up to us to make decisions for other people (unless they are our children) - ie. banning a video game, because it doesn't adhere to what you believe is God-like behaviour. These video games have ratings, children shouldn't be playing them anyway, however adults should have the freedom to choose what they like. There are a lot worse things in the world to be worried about then a video game. The only person who can and should be judging them is God.- It is not your place to intervene.

[Talitha]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

God gave us freedom of choice. It is not up to us to make decisions for other people (unless they are our children) - ie. banning a video game, because it doesn't adhere to what you believe is God-like behaviour. These video games have ratings, children shouldn't be playing them anyway, however adults should have the freedom to choose what they like. There are a lot worse things in the world to be worried about then a video game. The only person who can and should be judging them is God.- It is not your place to intervene.

It is our place. God Commands it.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Latest Video Game Banned in Freehold: Left 4 Dead

God gave us freedom of choice.

Where does the Bible say that?

It is not up to us to make decisions for other people (unless they are our children) - ie. banning a video game, because it doesn't adhere to what you believe is God-like behaviour.

Of course it is. We are to live morally and justly. We are to love our neighbor as ourselves. To accomplish this we are not to be tolerant of his sins.

These video games have ratings, children shouldn't be playing them anyway, however adults should have the freedom to choose what they like.

I seriously doubt you are over the age of 18, but that isn't the point.

They should not have the right to things that glorify killing and murder. They should be reading their Bibles instead.

There are a lot worse things in the world to be worried about then a video game. The only person who can and should be judging them is God.- It is not your place to intervene.

Allow me to leave you with a couple of scriptures, lifted from somewhere else.

2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

[RustyKyle]

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It is our place. God Commands it.

I mean if god is just commanding everyone, lets just be it as why would we be given our own rights to make our own choice, i mean is it just we are supposed to align ourselves out as what god wants us to be, if we are individualize shouldn't we have the right to individualize ourselves to be able to let us use these games just only for entertainment? if not why would we be into such temptations towards such things, because eve took the bite of apple from the forbidden apple tree? if man was given a conscious and was able to do what we think is fun, or just entertaining, why would it be such sin to see it as a visual experience?