[handmaiden]

Re: God hates garrys mod

here you go again with this imaginary friend, you know, this whole argument started by me saying that I believed in God. God. and you somehow got this idea in your head, that I created a friend, a god, in my head. no, i didn't, I have clearly stated in the past that I acknowledge that this god says things I do not believe in, yes the very god I believe in! it's the same one! I know its hard to believe, but just try for a moment, why don't ya? yeah, we're both talking about the same god, nowhere does it indicate that I believe in different god, I said I disagreed with him on some things, not "I created a god in my head cause I disagree with the other one" as you seem to believe.

Right now I would believe that you are walking on your knuckles and throwing feces at your keepers.

If, as you say, you believe in God, specifically the one who reveals Himself in the Bible, aren't you just a teeny bit concerned about what an Allpowerful, supremely wrathful type of divinity might choose to do with you after a lifetime of flouting His commandments and authority?

I do hope that you weren't planning to lead a rebellion against Him because He consigns people like your brother --He is the one who is a homosexual, correct?--to everlasting, agonizing torment in Hell. Those sorts of protests never end well, God always seems to win. I guess, being allknowing and allpowerful does often confer an advantage. But hey-- you have the knucklewalking and feces throwing. Let me know how it goes.


Faceticously Yours,

Handmaiden

[Redeemed Papist]

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Right now I would believe that you are walking on your knuckles and throwing feces at your keepers.

If, as you say, you believe in God, specifically the one who reveals Himself in the Bible, aren't you just a teeny bit concerned about what an Allpowerful, supremely wrathful type of divinity might choose to do with you after a lifetime of flouting His commandments and authority?

I do hope that you weren't planning to lead a rebellion against Him because He consigns people like your brother --He is the one who is a homosexual, correct?--to everlasting, agonizing torment in Hell. Those sorts of protests never end well, God always seems to win. I guess, being allknowing and allpowerful does often confer an advantage. But hey-- you have the knucklewalking and feces throwing. Let me know how it goes.


Faceticously Yours,

Handmaiden

It's not just his brother that's a faggot, sister. They're both fudge nudgers.

[i doesnt matter]

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To Redeemed Papist,
so, you're saying my brother is disobeying God because he wants to be a rebel?
ok, so what facts do you have to support this, you've never met him?
for your information, he is a firm believer in God, and now I know you're going to say something like "well why does he choose to be a homosexual then?" yeah, once again, it's not a choice, he can't help it, it's just who he is.
oh and what proof do you have that I am a homosexual?
and why do you assume (it makes an ass out of you and me, by the way) that every homosexual has butt-sex, or do you know from your own experiences?

To handmaiden
Yes, you are correct, My brother is Homosexual, and no I wouldn't lead a rebellion against God, first of all I wouldn't even know how to do that, second, it'd be stupid to do that even if I could, what would a small person like me to do God?

[Didymus Much]

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...I know you're going to say something like "well why does he choose to be a homosexual then?" yeah, once again, it's not a choice, he can't help it, it's just who he is...

Once again, I IMPLORE you to read the Bible. Read the words that are there in plain black and white.

To those who claim, "Jesus changed everything, all that Old Testament stuff doesn't apply anymore", well, what did Jesus actually say?

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled" <<< that there is Jesus talking.

Who are you going to believe? Jesus Himself, or people who might be lying to you for their own nefarious purposes?

On the other hand, curiously, homosexual urges are NOT condemned anywhere (Old or New Testament). Rather, homosexual ACTS are. All your brother has to do is stop having gay sex. Easy, huh?

...it'd be stupid to do that even if I could, what would a small person like me to do God?

But you already ARE rebelling against Jesus and God, by denying what is clearly written in the Bible.

As for this bit of flim-flam from your c&p, "What the Bible specifies may not be what we think of as homosexual at all, partly at least because of the language differences and partly because people are different today.":

Do you believe God is omnipotent? You'd better say yes, because that's what the Bible says. If God is omnipotent, it'd be nothing for Him to change the Bible so that His meaning is clear (True Christians(tm) believe that the KJV is quite clear about God's meaning, and thus does not need to be changed). Now, if you claim the Bible is unclear, that means:

1) God made it that way, and keeps it that way, so that nobody can understand it, and we ALL go to Hell because we are unable to follow His Commands.
2) God cannot change the Bible, which means He is not omnipotent, the Bible is a bunch of lies, and we ALL go to Hell because God has not communicated His wishes clearly.
3) God is not real.

Which of those statements do you agree with?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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To Redeemed Papist,
so, you're saying my brother is disobeying God because he wants to be a rebel?
ok, so what facts do you have to support this, you've never met him?
for your information, he is a firm believer in God, and now I know you're going to say something like "well why does he choose to be a homosexual then?" yeah, once again, it's not a choice, he can't help it, it's just who he is.
oh and what proof do you have that I am a homosexual?
and why do you assume (it makes an ass out of you and me, by the way) that every homosexual has butt-sex, or do you know from your own experiences?

To handmaiden
Yes, you are correct, My brother is Homosexual, and no I wouldn't lead a rebellion against God, first of all I wouldn't even know how to do that, second, it'd be stupid to do that even if I could, what would a small person like me to do God?

I really don't understand why you are having a problem with this.

1) We know what God thinks because the Bible tells us.

2) The Bible tells us homosexuals should be killed (Leviticus 20:13). It is very clear that they should be killed.

So what we see is that God wants them killed.

Now, Leviticus set out statutes (laws) for people to keep if they love Him and want to go to Heaven.

James 2:10 then states that if you break any part of the law you break it ALL.

Therefor being gay (proscribed in Lev 20:13) is as bad as sexual abuse by father to daughter (proscribed in Lev 20:12).

It just so happens that secular people currently think being gay is fine but a father having sex with his daughter is not.

But the secular vogue should not matter to an honest Christian. No one said being a Christian is easy (I had great difficulty when I actually sat down and read the Bible).

I believe in God and it is an important and rewarding part of my life: but it is difficult in the face of people who believe that they are Christians when they really don't know the first thing about the nature of God.

The establishment just wants 'bums on seats' and will tell people what they want to hear to get them into church.

I believe this is dishonest. It is dishonest because people are being lied to about what it means to be a Christian: it is a hard road and people do come here and hate on us because we are honest in our beliefs and we don't shy from the literal meaning of the Bible.

The modern vicar will lie about God to keep his church full: that's wrong, it's deceptive and disrespectful.

I'm sorry for the long post but my faith is important to me and if I can save one person from going to Hell I believe I have fulfilled my purpose.

All the best

[Sister Batt]

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don't ya dare use that terrible language, ya heathen! You are probably Satan's favorite mind to ravage. So he must of sent you here to poison everyone Christian. Gays are unnatural and scary!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Gays are unnatural and scary!

Your unsaved opinion about homosexuals is not relevant.

God hates them and directs us to kill them, and states that they will never enter Heaven. That means they are going to Hell unless we help them find Jesus.

It's our job to witness to the homosexuals, and all other sinners like bronies, and Catholics, and furries, and Muslims, and adulterers like Newt Gingrich. That means we have to put aside any personal feelings, put on the Armor of God, and do what needs to be done.

[Sister Batt]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Your unsaved opinion about homosexuals is not relevant.

God hates them and directs us to kill them, and states that they will never enter Heaven. That means they are going to Hell unless we help them find Jesus.

It's our job to witness to the homosexuals, and all other sinners like bronies, and Catholics, and furries, and Muslims, and adulterers like Newt Gingrich. That means we have to put aside any personal feelings, put on the Armor of God, and do what needs to be done.

You are right and I'm sorry. I was just worked up at the moment. You are so right.!

[Roukan]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Papist:
How does one come across this game, except by searching for it? It's clear you looked directly for things that can be skewed by your hypocritical perception to show your point of view. Garry's mod is a game where you can do anything, whether it's hanging a banner proclaiming your love of God, or for the opposite. Naturally, you looked for the latter. How is it the game's fault, or the creator, when people individually do it? Here's a verse for you:
Matthew 7:5 ESV
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

You judge people simply based off of what they do, which is defense of a game that is not anti-God, or judge homosexuality and people who partake in abortions.

James 4:11-12 ESV

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

There does exist redeemed homosexuals. Please show me a verse that says homosexuality is wrong, that does directly show abhoration towards Homosexuality in it's entirety, and not a whole city where everyone had sex without concern.

porn link deleted

But I forgive you, Papist. For wanton judging of individuals with no regard to what the Lord may think. I pray for you this day that you turn against your views of hate, and embrace everyone regardless of the hole they fill when they lay with their spouse.

P.S.: AIDS is Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome, acquired by not only sexual acts, but the act of fluid exchange of any kind. As a phlebotomist, I could easily get AIDS from someone who squirms and the needle flies out of their arm and into mine. Would that make me a Godless sinner?

[Redeemed Papist]

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Wow!

In that case I forgive you for quoting a wrong Bible and cherry picking. Shame you're going to Hell.

Leviticus 18:22,23
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

It's as bad as having sex with animals.

I can't believe you're so lazy as to not know this and I'm sure some copy/paste nonsense is forthcoming as to why God didn't really mean it about sodomising men but did mean it about having sex with animals.

[Roukan]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Wow!

In that case I forgive you for quoting a wrong Bible and cherry picking. Shame you're going to Hell.

Leviticus 18:22,23
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

It's as bad as having sex with animals.

I can't believe you're so lazy as to not know this and I'm sure some copy/paste nonsense is forthcoming as to why God didn't really mean it about sodomising men but did mean it about having sex with animals.

Hahaha, porn link? And no, it does not correlate as being as bad as lying with Animals. Just that they're both bad. Also, the link you so described as 'porn' combats said verse. I might suggest opening your eyes, but it might be hard under the weight of being pretentious.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Hahaha, porn link? And no, it does not correlate as being as bad as lying with Animals. Just that they're both bad. Also, the link you so described as 'porn' combats said verse. I might suggest opening your eyes, but it might be hard under the weight of being pretentious.

Ah just stop being lazy and read all the scripture I posted in this very thread on the subject then push off if that's all you're here for.

[Jedediah]

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PHere's a verse for you:
Matthew 7:5 ESV
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

And here's a link for you:
The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

You judge people simply based off of what they do, which is defense of a game that is not anti-God, or judge homosexuality and people who partake in abortions.

James 4:11-12 ESV

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

How else are we to judge people, if not based on what they do? As True Christians™, it is our prerogative to judge righteous judgment (Leviticus 9:15, John 7:24).

As to your distortion of Scripture, try actually reading the entire Bible instead of simply cherry-picking the parts that suit your own vain sense of morality when you take them out of context. I suggest you read Pastor Will's sermon:
Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

There does exist redeemed homosexuals. Please show me a verse that says homosexuality is wrong, that does directly show abhoration towards Homosexuality in it's entirety, and not a whole city where everyone had sex without concern.

If homosexuality was not wrong, why would Ex-Gays like myself have chosen to redeem ourselves? While true that we are all born into sin and persist in sin until being washed in the BLOOD of JESUS (I John 1:7), that is no excuse for those who still wallow in perversion and depredation.

As you have apparently never read beyond a few cherry-picked verses of Scripture, here are just a few verses condemning homosexuality.

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:25-28
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

I Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

I Timothy 1:9-10
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Here's a link for you.

I don't listen to perverts. This is a Christian forum, not a place to promote sodomy.

But I forgive you, Papist. For wanton judging of individuals with no regard to what the Lord may think. I pray for you this day that you turn against your views of hate, and embrace everyone regardless of the hole they fill when they lay with their spouse.

Yes, because preaching the Gospel as given in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) gives no indication of what the LORD may think.

Pro-tip: God does not listen to the prayers of sinners. So save your breath on getting right with Jesus instead of trying to justify your homosexual deathstyle choice.

P.S.: AIDS is Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome, acquired by not only sexual acts, but the act of fluid exchange of any kind. As a phlebotomist, I could easily get AIDS from someone who squirms and the needle flies out of their arm and into mine. Would that make me a Godless sinner?

If God chose to infect you with Gay-Related Immunodeficiency, I'm sure He has His reasons. Who are we to question that? When we don't understand His ways, we may yet rejoice in His promises.

[handmaiden]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Once again, I IMPLORE you to read the Bible. Read the words that are there in plain black and white.

To those who claim, "Jesus changed everything, all that Old Testament stuff doesn't apply anymore", well, what did Jesus actually say?

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled" <<< that there is Jesus talking.

Who are you going to believe? Jesus Himself, or people who might be lying to you for their own nefarious purposes?

On the other hand, curiously, homosexual urges are NOT condemned anywhere (Old or New Testament). Rather, homosexual ACTS are. All your brother has to do is stop having gay sex. Easy, huh?



But you already ARE rebelling against Jesus and God, by denying what is clearly written in the Bible.

As for this bit of flim-flam from your c&p, "What the Bible specifies may not be what we think of as homosexual at all, partly at least because of the language differences and partly because people are different today.":

Do you believe God is omnipotent? You'd better say yes, because that's what the Bible says. If God is omnipotent, it'd be nothing for Him to change the Bible so that His meaning is clear (True Christians™ believe that the KJV is quite clear about God's meaning, and thus does not need to be changed). Now, if you claim the Bible is unclear, that means:

1) God made it that way, and keeps it that way, so that nobody can understand it, and we ALL go to Hell because we are unable to follow His Commands.
2) God cannot change the Bible, which means He is not omnipotent, the Bible is a bunch of lies, and we ALL go to Hell because God has not communicated His wishes clearly.
3) God is not real.

Which of those statements do you agree with?

Didymus, you know, of course, that I stand in direct opposition to you and all your loathsome, atheist ways. But I have to admire your clear understanding of what the Bible actually says, even if you refuse to believe that it is the directly revealed Word of the Almighty God of Abraham, Issac and Israel, who as the Bible also tells us, is also one with His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Because you are not deluded about the true and oftentimes harsh nature of God's instruction for us, I hold out some hope for you. If you do not ever humble yourself before the Lord and accept His cleansing Blood Sacrifice and the Truth of His Word in its entirety, I will pray that when you are writhing in unbearable torment in eternity in Hell, that God in His mercy may at least give you a nice seat from which to view His followers enjoying themselves in Heaven while you suffer horribly forever.

I really don't understand why you are having a problem with this.

1) We know what God thinks because the Bible tells us.

2) The Bible tells us homosexuals should be killed (Leviticus 20:13). It is very clear that they should be killed.

So what we see is that God wants them killed.

Now, Leviticus set out statutes (laws) for people to keep if they love Him and want to go to Heaven.

James 2:10 then states that if you break any part of the law you break it ALL.

Therefor being gay (proscribed in Lev 20:13) is as bad as sexual abuse by father to daughter (proscribed in Lev 20:12).

It just so happens that secular people currently think being gay is fine but a father having sex with his daughter is not.

But the secular vogue should not matter to an honest Christian. No one said being a Christian is easy (I had great difficulty when I actually sat down and read the Bible).

I believe in God and it is an important and rewarding part of my life: but it is difficult in the face of people who believe that they are Christians when they really don't know the first thing about the nature of God.

The establishment just wants 'bums on seats' and will tell people what they want to hear to get them into church.

I believe this is dishonest. It is dishonest because people are being lied to about what it means to be a Christian: it is a hard road and people do come here and hate on us because we are honest in our beliefs and we don't shy from the literal meaning of the Bible.

The modern vicar will lie about God to keep his church full: that's wrong, it's deceptive and disrespectful.

I'm sorry for the long post but my faith is important to me and if I can save one person from going to Hell I believe I have fulfilled my purpose.

All the best

Brother Niles, you KNOW that I would never undertake to correct a Brother in Christ because I am a mere, weaker vessel of a female, easily deceived by Satan and charged by the Bible itself to hold no authority over a man such as yourself who was created in the image of God.

However, we all know how easily non True Christians can become confused on matters of doctrine, given how desperately they flip through the pages of the Bible to find exactly what they want to support their fuzzy, liberal ideals and then ignore all the 98 % of God's Word that offends their delicate sensibilities.

So, with that in mind, I will point out that WE, True Christians can not save anyone from going to Hell. It is Jesus, and Jesus alone, whose sinless Blood Sacrifice provides remission for our sins, who can save us from Hell. And it is God, Himself, who sends to Hell the people who refuse the gift of that cleansing Blood and refute His Holy Word and stand in rebellion against Him by denying His authority over their lives and behavior and either sinning all the live long day against Him or otherwise supporting or deluding those who go around doing things that are clearly spelled out as no-no's in the Bible.

I just don't want our readers to get the idea that we claim any authority ourselves over moral judgments and the eternal fate of anyone.

God says it in His Bible and confirms in that book over and over again His own authority and veracity. We just point the way to the truth and hope in our hearts that others will see it before it is too late.

(Or at least we hope that they will shut up already and stop trying to twist the Bible to support their own agendas.)


Matter-of Factly Yours,

Handmaiden

[i doesnt matter]

Re: God hates garrys mod

I apologize, I was mad

so, the thing I see most in this whole website, is people who are not "true christians" (by the way, who are you to give yourself this privilege? have you talked to God in person?) try to prove all of you wrong (Amen to that) and they show you a Bible verse, and you say that they're wrong because "oh well, that is the most misunderstood verse in the bible" when, how do you know? it brings me back to my original point, God helped his followers write the bible, a long time ago, and, we can't exactly be sure 100% that everything in the bible is meant to be read in this way or that way, if there is a possibility of one person being wrong, there is a possibility of you being wrong. And as I said before, you won't know until you make it to heaven or hell, so until then, try and be a little more open minded. because one, no one is perfect, so yeah, maybe you've made a mistake, it's possible, just like I made the mistake of coming here without reading the Bible, and I have been thinking about reading for a very long time, but managing time between my friends, family, school, and my band isn't so easy to do, but I assure you when the summer begins, I'll start reading it.