No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

[Johny Joe Hold]

I can't imagine anything more ridiculous the a birth certificate where both the father and the mother have women's names. Did one of the women provide the sperm cell??

It was a blessing to read that Arkansas joined Freehold in outlawing this false practice. To list two women is to make the birth certificate fake:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lesbian-mothers-birth-certificates-arkansas_us_5849cbe2e4b04002fa809a1e?section=queer-voices

[Michael Hezekiah Esq]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

It is indeed unfortunate that Obergefell left some ambiguity regarding this issue. It is also unfortunate that Freehold chooses to side with Arkansas on this matter.

As I've reminded you before, however, city ordinance can not go against Iowa state statutes. In 2013, the High Court ruled that same sex parents should both be on the certificate - so you'll be required to follow the lead. If you don't, you'll have the expenses of a lawsuit when Freehold's lesbians begin to fight - and they will. Perhaps you should install Lesbian Detectors on every street corner to prevent them from residing there.

While moving some more items to Cumming I happened to sit outside the gay bar near Freehold and once again saw some of your ***anecdotal slander against True Christians™ removed by moderator. Praise Jesus*** entering there. A witnessing event, no doubt.

Oy. Open your eyes, people. You have a Red Lobster in Freehold but Leviticus tells you not to eat that. No difference from one verse in Leviticus over another. G_d is not fooled.

The sign on Freehold's borders should say "Welcome To Freehold: Set Your Clocks Back 200 Years."

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

that Freehold chooses to side with Arkansas on this matter.

As I've reminded you before, however, city ordinance can not go against Iowa state statutes. In 2013, the High Court ruled that same sex parents should both be on the certificate - so you'll be required to follow the lead. If you don't, you'll have the expenses of a lawsuit when Freehold's lesbians begin to fight - and they will. Perhaps you should install Lesbian Detectors on every street corner to prevent them from residing there.

While moving some more items to Cumming I happened to sit outside the gay bar near Freehold and once again saw some of your ***anecdotal slander against True Christians™ removed by moderator. Praise Jesus*** entering there. A witnessing event, no doubt.

The sign on Freehold's borders should say "Welcome To Freehold: Set Your Clocks Back 200 Years."

We in Freehold believe in the Bible. The Bible does not say, "Put anything you want on the Birth Certificate."

That is why we are well within the law to prohibit lesbos from making their phony claim one of them fathered the child.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

Brother Mr Mayor, Sir, do we even have any lesbitarians in Freehold? I mean, I know the city outlawed the birth certificate nonsense, but I took that to be just as a point of principle. I can't see the regulation ever being needed.

[Michael Hezekiah Esq]

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Brother Mr Mayor, Sir, do we even have any lesbitarians in Freehold? I mean, I know the city outlawed the birth certificate nonsense, but I took that to be just as a point of principle. I can't see the regulation ever being needed.

Oh, trust me, Mrs. Lytton-Vasey, there are women in Freehold who are well versed in taking care of other women's carpets. As I've mentioned in other posts, there is a gay bar just outside the gates of Freehold where I've seen both men and women frequently go - directly from gate to bar to gate. I have pictures if anyone's interested.

I just love one of the senior pastors' skinny jeans and leather jacket. A bit young for him, but still, he looks fabulous. Rock on, brothers.

There are so few lesbian bars still in operation in the USA, Freehold's gay community is lucky to have one so close that caters to both guys and gals.

But back to the original ordinance - it won't fly in the courtroom so it's a moot point.

[handmaiden]

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The sign on Freehold's borders should say "Welcome To Freehold: Set Your Clocks Back 200 Years."

I BEG your pardon! Our clocks are set back 2000 years to the time of the First Century church. The writings that complete the Holy Bible date to that time, and nothing that has ever been written since anywhere in the whole world is as significant to us.

Two hundred years ago, we were re-building the White House after those nasty British burned it. And we may need to fumigate and refurbish it now to make it suitable for the Trumps after that black family moves out.
Offendedly Yours,
Handmaiden

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

G_d[sic] is not fooled.

Well that's interesting. How do you explain

Zomet…developed pens that use ink that disappears after a few days, based on a rabbinic interpretation that only forbids permanent writing, and Sabbath phones, which are dialed in an indirect manner with special buttons and a microprocessor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/business/worldbusiness/02kosher.html

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Oh, trust me, Mrs. Lytton-Vasey, there are women in Freehold who are well versed in taking care of other women's carpets. As I've mentioned in other posts, there is a gay bar just outside the gates of Freehold where I've seen both men and women frequently go - directly from gate to bar to gate. I have pictures if anyone's interested.


I just love one of the senior pastors' skinny jeans and leather jacket. A bit young for him, but still, he looks fabulous. Rock on, brothers.


There are so few lesbian bars still in operation in the USA, Freehold's gay community is lucky to have one so close that caters to both guys and gals.


But back to the original ordinance - it won't fly in the courtroom so it's a moot point.

Mr. Yarmulke, while being raised cathylick the nuns used to have a saying - they called it the "Eleventh Commandment" - MYOB (mind your own business). While we have common ground in that Moses didn't include this one, we here a Landover Baptist are certainly tolerant and polite with regard to discourse - it's no skin off or our back if the jews don't want to be perfected.

I don't recall anywhere in the Old Testament where there is mentioned bull dyke lezbean donkey rider bars, so it's quote the Torah and Talmud or STFU.

[Alvin Moss]

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Oh, trust me, Mrs. Lytton-Vasey, there are women in Freehold who are well versed in taking care of other women's carpets. As I've mentioned in other posts, there is a gay bar just outside the gates of Freehold where I've seen both men and women frequently go - directly from gate to bar to gate. I have pictures if anyone's interested.


I just love one of the senior pastors' skinny jeans and leather jacket. A bit young for him, but still, he looks fabulous. Rock on, brothers.


There are so few lesbian bars still in operation in the USA, Freehold's gay community is lucky to have one so close that caters to both guys and gals.


But back to the original ordinance - it won't fly in the courtroom so it's a moot point.

This one speaks Jew lies with a forked tongue. He's probably trying to drum up some kind of class action lawsuit.

Do your worst, Jew. We have more Jew lawyers on retainer that you have in your entire congregation.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

Mathematically two lesbians are just one because they are just worth half a human.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

Mathematically two lesbians are just one because they are just worth half a human.

God instructed Moses as follows:

LEVITICUS 27 . KJV . look up . context
2b When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the LORD by thy estimation.
3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.
4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.
5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.
6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.
7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

Those prices are not arbitrary, are part of the 613 Commandments provided by God (appearing at #523 on this list) and endorsed by Jesus who stated that not one jot or tittle should lapse until the Earth ceased to exist other than certain dietary restrictions which were rescinded personally by God. The Earth is still here. Therefore the Commandments stand.

. . . . . Silver - Shekels
.AGE . .MALE . FEMALE
.to.5. . . 5. . . .3
5.to.20 . . 20. . . 10
20.to.60 . .50. . . 30
over.60. . . . ..15. . . 10

Registration of parenthood with a government body confers particular rights upon the child. God made men and women and understands the differences. The Bible explains:

NUMBERS 30 . KJV . look up . context
2 If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
3 If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;
4 And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
5 But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
6 And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul;
7 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
8 But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.

Who owns the lesbians? There is never much mention of their marital status. But whatever they undertake in pretending to be parents could be undone once a father discovered what his daughter had let herself in for. God understands these wretches have not much idea what they're doing (except divorced wretches) and where would the child be then? It is not only a matter of perception it is also a matter of shame. God does not want us prancing about like guttersnipes but visit any lesbian themed protest march and check out the behaviours for yourself. The Bible explains appropriate behaviour and condemns passing-the-buck.

DON'T PASS THE BUCK

GENESIS 3 . KJV . look up . context
11 [God speaking] Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life..
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

BE ASHAMED

I TIMOTHY 2 . KJV . look up . context
8-9 I will therefore that…women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array..
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

In summary,
• God has made us and knows all about us.
• God had different expectations of the sexes and commanded us appropriately.
• The Bible explains God's reasoning; Man has capabilities enabling him to take responsibility; woman is vulnerable to deceit and should be ashamed.
• Babies registered to female/female partnerships have no certainty that their rights, relating to parental responsibilities, will not evaporate.
• For example when a pre-existing owner collects his property even though her value is 50 to 60 per cent as explained by God compared to a son or male servant.

I hope that is helpful; additional Scripture is always available. We already know what passes for "values" in secularism so anyone planning to inform us will be risking carpal tunnel syndrome for no reason.



1. “Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law” http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-5-18/
2. “What God hath cleansed call not thou common” http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Acts-10-9_11-9/

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: No! Two Lesbians Cannot be On a Child's Birth Certificate

Thank you, sister Mitza, for teaching all of us the law in God's word. It is important for lesbians to know if they are not the property of either their father or a husband they are ignoring reality.

Obviously, there was a man involved when there is a baby. Having only women's names on the birth certificate without a disclaimer from the father only make a bad situation worse.

[Titus Templeton]

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Wonderful information, sister Miza.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Obviously, there was a man involved when there is a baby. Having only women's names on the birth certificate without a disclaimer from the father only make a bad situation worse.

I'm happy to post Scripture and that my few words of context were acceptable. So often we're accused of cherry picking and that is simply not true. But if I could ask a question, could a "donating" father ever be a Christian? I'd have thought not, but would he be guilty of Onanism?

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-38-8/