Changing Your Gender is a Sin

[Johny Joe Hold]

In all the cross current of news about "sexual diversity" and such, one simple fact is often overlooked:

It is a sin to change your gender. Do it and you will go to hell.

For some reason there is a acre a day devoted to other discussion. The only issue that counts is not discussed.

Let's look at the most famously sinner of all, Bruce "Caityn" Jenner. As a woman, Bruce is doing all kinds of good deeds. He has a foundation to look after forgotten trans people, he raises money for charitable causes and gives lectures. He also remains a Republican.

But, he is a goner with Jesus. His fate is sealed. Sin has marked him for hell:

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

Dear Mr. Mayor,

How can he be called a woman? He doesn't have any lady bits for starters and he is incapable of pumping out little soldiers for Jesus. In addition he now runs around in ladies clothes. Next thing we know he will open up a Victorian Tea Shoppe.


Yours querulously,
TT

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

Of course, Thomas is an expert in such matters, since his daughter used to be his son. But that's old news. No point in bringing it up now.

[MitzaLizalor]

Will you three stop it please?

I can almost smell the air he's breathing as he leans in with the cakes.

And we've just been to a lovely tea shoppe where everything was just right ..well, maybe I do slightly better cream skimmed straight off the top using a technique my grandmother taught me but I'm not the sort pf person to go nit-picking over something like that. And then you say he's opening one?

I nearly did bring it up!!!

Perhaps an admin could include a warning up the top, something like
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CAUTION DO NOT READ THIS THREAD

[LW1997 (On Moderation)]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

No offense, but nobody will go to hell because of a certain sin. It makes no sense. People who never change their gender will still go to hell if they reject Christ.

Of course we need to preach against sin. That's something that Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, TD Jakes, Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer rarely do.

But it would make no sense if changing your gender was the unforgivable sin. Andrew Farley was once asked if divorce was the unforgivable sin. Like me, he found this absurd. Yeah, it's like "Jesus died for all sins except gluttony, Jesus died for all sins except selfishness..." I find it sad that so little people here are talking about grace.

About the unpadorable sin:

[BrotherLarry]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

It is so petty to jump on errors.


But what is unpadorable? Is that not being able to tolerate Pia Zadora? No, I suppose that would be unzadorable. It can't be the dislike of certain hats: unfedorable.


One thing I'm not is petty! My name would be Tom - and I'd be dead!


ROFL!


Praise God!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

You were interested in grace.

nobody will go to hell because of a certain sin

Yes they will. The certain sin has a name.

Hebrews 10:29 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses; of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

So what is this Spirit? The Bible is our only source for information: take a look

Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Now unless you think the Spirit is a manifestation of Ganesh (who was not invented until well after The Creation, specifically until after the creation of humans) the only Spirit available to express Grace through Christ is the Spirit of God. Did you notice that this Spirit predates the creation of Light?

John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Those who reject the circumstances of their own creation as either male or female are rejecting the expression of the Spirit of God. How do we know this? By reading The Bible:

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.

People who say “God? Shmod! He made me like that (Poo! Yuk!) but I am like this (something else) ew!” are saying the Spirit of God who moved upon the face of the waters was an imbecile. Incapable of creating even the least fruit tree or paralysis tick does this blasphemy exist among elephants? No. It does not.

Why?

Elephants do not have gender dysphoria. Neither do ticks or spiders. No male widow spider ever thought “Eeee! I am inedible..” and proceeded to devour one of these, themselves being ¼ the size.

c l i c k

Creation was described by God as altogether satisfactory. Very good. But the Spirit active throughout was not deficient and in Christ was not only competent but glorious. Homosexuals are not glorious because they require the Spirit of Grace, potent from the moment of creation, to be inglorious too. Impotent. Unable to create anything good, because they are not good. Surgery, let's face it, even the thought that surgery could improve on what the Spirit had created is blasphemy beyond comprehension.

This is a very certain sin.

Has poster ever read The Bible?



w h o o p s

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

It's pretty clear in the Bible (KJV1611) that Jesus frowns up anyone that has their tallywhacker cut off. Case closed.

He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

- Deuteronomy 23:1

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

All this transgender moonbattery reminds me of another kind of "trans" stupidity, one that's been around a lot longer.

I'm referring to transubstantiation.

Think about it. There are millions in this country who laugh at the idea that Bruce Jenner is now a woman (as they should), yet believe that every Sunday, they are literally eating the body of Christ and drinking His blood because a pedophile waved his hand over some bread and wine and said a few magic words. I would even say that the prevalence of Catholic superstition has primed people to accept transgender BS. There is really no limit to the insane things people will believe without the rock-solid logical foundation and sterling moral code provided by Bible-based True Christianity.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

All this transgender moonbattery reminds me of another kind of "trans" stupidity, one that's been around a lot longer.

I'm referring to transubstantiation.

Think about it. There are millions in this country who laugh at the idea that Bruce Jenner is now a woman (as they should), yet believe that every Sunday, they are literally eating the body of Christ and drinking His blood because a pedophile waved his hand over some bread and wine and said a few magic words. I would even say that the prevalence of Catholic superstition has primed people to accept transgender BS. There is really no limit to the insane things people will believe without the rock-solid logical foundation and sterling moral code provided by Bible-based True Christianity.

Excellent point. Once a person has been indoctrinated into one batty conspiracy theory, others are easier to swallow (no pun intended). But this does raise the question, how many little crackers does a Catholic believe he needs to eat before he's eaten the entire body of Jesus?

[Alex Osterman]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

Yikes. This thread is a mess. Your ignorance and bigotry are like a spray of diarrhea that missed the toilet and landed all over my computer screen.

First of all, it is a popular misconception—a cissexist and transphobic one—than trans people "change their gender." Trans women don't become women; they're born women, just as trans men are born men and nonbinary people are born nonbinary. They were simply misidentified and assigned the wrong gender at birth by the same medical system that mutilates the genitals of intersex infants. Transition, for those who pursue it, can broadly be defined as changing one's outward appearance to match one's deeply felt internal gender identity. (Note: It's better to simply say "gender," because the word "identity" implies that trans people are "identifying" as what they are instead of just being it. But for those not up to date on trans issues—an understatement when it comes to you lot—"gender identity" may be easier to grasp.)

Not all trans people transition medically. Many, especially trans POC, cannot afford it, while for others it simply isn't necessary. Plenty of trans women are happy with their penises, testicles, Adam's apples, flat hairy chests, and even beards, and that's great! It doesn't make them any less female, nor should it exclude them from women's spaces or from participation in women's sports. Likewise, a trans man who has a baby is just as manly as any cis man. More, really, because what's tougher and more masculine than growing an entire human being inside of you and then squeezing it out headfirst from a hole between your legs?

For most trans people, the key transition is the social one, a kind of coming out akin that experienced by other LGBTQQIP2SAA+ individuals. Transphobes who focus on the "parts" are exposing their own crypto-fetishization of trans bodies.

Are you seriously using animals to validate your transphobia? You do know there are tons of creatures who change their sex on the regular, including everyone's favorite Pixar star, the clownfish? And did you also know that XX/XY, cited by every "educated" bigot as the be-all, end-all of what you really are, is one of basically countless sex-determination systems found in nature? If you want proof that "biological sex" is as vague and malleable as Donald Trump's values, look no further than the animal kingdom.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

Yikes. This thread is a mess. Your ignorance and bigotry are like a spray of diarrhea that missed the toilet and landed all over my computer screen.

Such ridiculous ideas come along once in a while from people who do not read their Bible. Gen. 5:2 clearly tells us God made we humans male and female. Trans is not in the Bible.

[Basilissa]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

nonbinary people are born nonbinary.

First of all, dear, people are not a numeral system, so people are neither binary nor decimal nor hexadecimal.

I hope that was helpful, dear.

I will pray for your poor eternal soul which for now seems to be doomed to suffer forever in Hell.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Changing Your Gender is a Sin

Yikes. This thread is a mess. Your ignorance and bigotry are like a spray of diarrhea that missed the toilet and landed all over my computer screen.

If the screen of your Macbook is festooned with feces, blame your mommy for not changing your diaper in time. I assure you I had nothing to do with it.

First of all, it is a popular misconception—a cissexist and transphobic one—than trans people "change their gender." Trans women don't become women; they're born women, just as trans men are born men and nonbinary people are born nonbinary. They were simply misidentified and assigned the wrong gender at birth by the same medical system that mutilates the genitals of intersex infants.

How and why were they misidentified? When a doctor examines a newborn and notices its penis, what is he supposed to say? "Well, this certainly looks like a penis... has all the characteristics of a penis... but in forty years, this person whose gender is a complete and total mystery may decide it's not a penis at all but an inside-out vagina, so let me just put a question mark in the box labeled Sex and tell the parents they'll have to wait and see."

Great idea. That'll definitely stop everyone from thinking transgender people are weirdos.

Transition, for those who pursue it, can broadly be defined as changing one's outward appearance to match one's deeply felt internal gender identity. (Note: It's better to simply say "gender," because the word "identity" implies that trans people are "identifying" as what they are instead of just being it. But for those not up to date on trans issues—an understatement when it comes to you lot—"gender identity" may be easier to grasp.)

If you're struggling to convince people to accept a version of reality utterly contrary to what their own eyes and ears tell them, surely all your problems will be solved by aggressively policing their speech and punishing them even as they try their best, because what you told them to say yesterday is no longer acceptable today. Yes, yes. Of course. Tiny nuances of language are the reason some might perceive "Danielle" Muscato as anything other than a real true lady who farts Chanel perfume and thinks in pink cursive. There's nothing about "her" that might lend the wrong impression.

Not all trans people transition medically. Many, especially trans POC, cannot afford it, while for others it simply isn't necessary. Plenty of trans women are happy with their penises, testicles, Adam's apples, flat hairy chests, and even beards, and that's great! It doesn't make them any less female, nor should it exclude them from women's spaces or from participation in women's sports.

You're not entirely wrong here, Alex. A bearded man in a dress is indeed no less female than a beardless one, because both of them are 100% male. As for sports, if your daughter became a professional fighter, I assume you'd have no second thoughts sending her into the ring with Fallon Fox?

Likewise, a trans man who has a baby is just as manly as any cis man. More, really, because what's tougher and more masculine than growing an entire human being inside of you and then squeezing it out headfirst from a hole between your legs?

Hmmm... what's more manly than something only women have ever been able to do? How about... I don't know... everything?

For most trans people, the key transition is the social one, a kind of coming out akin that experienced by other LGBTQQIP2SAA+ individuals. Transphobes who focus on the "parts" are exposing their own crypto-fetishization of trans bodies.

A-ha! There it is. For decades, you libtards insisted that homosexuality had nothing to do with pedophilia. But now that you've won and sodomy is the law of the land, you've put a P smack in the middle of your ever-expanding acronym. Do not think I will ever let you pretend it wasn't there.

(I assume the S stands for something other than Straight, even though normal people are apparently a minority in your braindead, screen-sick generation. Proof you were never interested in equality at all.)

Are you seriously using animals to validate your transphobia? You do know there are tons of creatures who change their sex on the regular, including everyone's favorite Pixar star, the clownfish? And did you also know that XX/XY, cited by every "educated" bigot as the be-all, end-all of what you really are, is one of basically countless sex-determination systems found in nature? If you want proof that "biological sex" is as vague and malleable as Donald Trump's values, look no further than the animal kingdom.

Clownfish can change their sex? Sure, if you say so. They can also breathe underwater. If I identify... er, "come out" as a fish and try to do the same, I'm still going to drown. And you failed to provide an example of a male animal thinking he's female, because that is what we're talking about here. Humans are not among the species that can change sex or in which sex normally falls outside a binary.

Don't attempt to fool us with your supposed knowledge of biology. Remember, we are all well-versed in the greatest science textbook ever written: the Bible.