[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

I'm a bit surprised that you didn't mention the Roman Emperor Hadrian, who declared his 13-year old lover as a God.

Another one worth mentioning may be the Japanese Neo-Fascist Yukio Mishima, who was also an homosexual who got his ideas from western Fascist authors.


I don't know if Muhammad counts as an homosexual, since Hadith states that he practiced sodomy before "converting" to Allah. He may have repented, but who knows. Only Christian witnessing is worthy.


By the way, there are some dark rumors about the Blessed Cardinal John Henry Newman, according to which "he felt attraction towards a priest". Who knows if they are true, as long he did not practice the act he is surely saved.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

I would be interested to know whether any pope ever had (or thought of having) a wife? God is pretty straightforward on this topic, if anyone's interested the theme's introduced on page 1.

..of The Bible

(popes being mentioned I ought to reference the book they never read)

[Basilissa]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

I would be interested to know whether any pope ever had (or thought of having) a wife?

Would Pope Alexander VI count? He never married, but he did fulfill Genesis 9:7.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

Actually Rodrigo Borgia (codename "Alexander VI") was probably one of the few straight popes, considering the fact that he sired children. No, I think the real question to ask our resident pagan papist priest is how many "Vicars of Christ" were tops and how many were bottoms.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

You could always check out what happened when they retired as happens every now and then. Assorted improbable claims during the first millennium (I have no idea who dreamed up the idea of popes or when they started ruling the roost) then a couple in the ten hundreds, again in the twelve and fourteen hundreds with the tradition continuing in the third millennium and they probably have records.

Those records probably include where the "pope" idea came from and when it started. Obviously what they say will in no way reflect actual history.

[Basilissa]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

Those records probably include where the "pope" idea came from and when it started. Obviously what they say will in no way reflect actual history.

It would have been around Anno Domini 1000, give or take. During the first millennium after Christ, it was widely accepted that the bishops of the original five dioceses were equals. This pentarchy included Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople, and Rome. After the Muslim disease broke out in 622, the events which followed changed the political map, making Jerusalem, Antioch, and Alexandria practically meaningless, while Constantinople and Rome rose to the top of political, social, economic, and religious power in the East and West, respectively.

The Bishops of Constantinople never had any doubts that equality of bishops is what God intended. The Bishops of Rome, however, began to have impure thoughts of their own superiority. It was more of a long process than a single event, but if we want to find a single event as the final straw, that would be the secession of the Roman Catholics from the Orthodox Church, which occurred in 1054.

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

The Bishops of Constantinople never had any doubts that equality of bishops is what God intended. The Bishops of Rome, however, began to have impure thoughts of their own superiority. It was more of a long process than a single event, but if we want to find a single event as the final straw, that would be the secession of the Roman Catholics from the Orthodox Church, which occurred in 1054.

I still cannot understand how can they claim their superiority over the Catholic Church when in the New Testament it was clearly St. Peter that made the decisions, therefore he is above all 11 others Apostles. Also, the Patriarchs are supposed to be the successors of the Twelve Apostles themselves, yet i don't remember any of them going in Russia. In fact, the Patriarch of Moscow was created by the Russian Tsar in order to have a "russianized" Church. I mean, it looks almost like the Anglican Church but with different doctrines. And recently, Patriarch Kirill declared he is no longer friend with Bart of Costantinople (nowdays Istanbul). What makes them think that their doctrine is somewhat perfect, considering that "Orthodox Jesus" was clearly somewhere else when Muslims took .The same thing could be said when the commies took control of Russia.


The fact that they are still stuck to 4th century art, while the Catholic Church has helped developing it (even though some would say that it came from Paganism) shows clearly who is superior.

[Basilissa]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

in the New Testament it was clearly St. Peter that made the decisions,

Are you absolutely sure? Because to me it seems that Peter maybe might have a hold over the rest of the bunch until Paul showed up, but once Saul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus and turned into Paul, Peter and his old-school ideas have really faded away, and it was Paul's vision (of what Jesus wanted) that took Christianity from a fringe Jewish sect into a worldwide religion.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

What about Princess Olga of Kiev?

[Romeo Rovagnati]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

What about Princess Olga of Kiev?

She was Catholic and she didn't found the Russian Orthodox Church. As i said before, that church was originally part of the Greek Orthodox Church, but the Tsar turned it into an ethnic Church.


Returning to the queers, i would add the pedophile-lezbo Marion Zimmer Bradley, known for being a fantasy-author, but i don't know anymore information about her.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Evil Queers Throughout History

She was Catholic and she didn't found the Russian Orthodox Church. As i said before, that church was originally part of the Greek Orthodox Church, but the Tsar turned it into an ethnic Church.

I see. But were there any Tsars (other than the Caesars) when Olga arrived with her priest? Since if he was a [Roman] catholic and not her husband presumably his interests did not extend to female humans, in contravention of Scripture——unless he were a eunuch——raising a further question that if from these the Kievan Rus emerged, where did the Rus come from? If they were Vikings for example or simple Danes or Norse or something peregrinating broadly before settling down in the 10th century or whenever it was, how could either of them have started out catholics? Unless she just picked him up along the way. The orthodox hierarchy I'd heard doesn't preclude marriage (perhaps you could confirm this from a Romish perspective?) and so that particular evil wouldn't be inevitable; they'd still have been evil though but I can't see how you'd get from a popish priest to an orthodox patriarch. The other way, starting off as Italian Orthodox and mutating across to heretic, well just about any claptrap could be added on.

Unless of course the pontiffs never had anything to do with Jesus in the first place. It's all very confusing.