[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I am gay

I lived in the States for 7 years, LA, and there are way more queers there than here in South Africa! I am speaking of in the street or out of the closet, so I can just imagine there are even way more keeping it a secret.

But in africa something like 70% of the population has the AIDS. In L.A. it's only 50%. The jungle bunnies wil fornicate with anything they can pin down (so I've been told), that's why they're all sodomites.

In LA there 10 mil. people and in the whole of South Africa there are 5 mil. caucasians, so make the math.

That sounds pretty racist, pal. Don't you count negroes as people?

[Hawk]

Re: I am gay

But in africa something like 70% of the population has the AIDS. In L.A. it's only 50%. The jungle bunnies wil fornicate with anything they can pin down (so I've been told), that's why they're all sodomites.



That sounds pretty racist, pal. Don't you count negroes as people?

I do not know where you get your facts, but there might be truth in it. I am only speaking of experience and I cannot speak for other races, because I do not know enough to make statements on there lifestyle since we do not mingle with them very often.

Aids is a problem, but as far as I know it is not because of the gay society, its got something to do with there culture. When a man leaves for the mines his wife stays with his brother and he needs to take care of her even in a sexual way. They think this is why aids has spread so rapidly. There are many Christians among them who follows Jesus's teachings, but as I said before I do not know enough to start accusing them as being jungle bunnies who will fornicate with anything.

I know that they are not all sodomites. Some of them are doctors, lawyers and many other professions, so to say they are jungle bunnies can actually be seen as a racist remark, don't you think?

Jesus loves us all!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I am gay

Jesus loves us all!

No see, we've been through this all before. Jesus never said any such thing. The Holy Bible lists plenty of people that God hates.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Don't come in here making up lies about Jesus. We all have the potential to be Saved, but it doesn't follow that Jesus loves everyone.

[Hawk]

Re: I am gay

No see, we've been through this all before. Jesus never said any such thing. The Holy Bible lists plenty of people that God hates.

God doesn't love everybody:




And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...



Don't come in here making up lies about Jesus. We all have the potential to be Saved, but it doesn't follow that Jesus loves everyone.

Do you really believe Jesus hates sinners, in that case he must hate you too, because no man is perfect and sins. If you have a wrong thought it is considered a sin by God, so I think you should reconsider your statement!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I am gay

Do you really believe Jesus hates sinners, in that case he must hate you too, because no man is perfect and sins. If you have a wrong thought it is considered a sin by God, so I think you should reconsider your statement!

Of course we have all sinned. But I am Saved by His Grace, and thus am sin free! When a person is Saved, salvation is assured (Romans 8:1). Shout GLORY!

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: I am gay

When a [n African] man leaves for the mines his wife stays with his brother and he needs to take care of her even in a sexual way.

Heaven Hear My Cry.....I can't take any more!

[TRUEATHEIST]

Re: I am gay

Heaven Hear My Cry.....I can't take any more!

Are you getting me confused with someone else? Are you sending me the wrong messages or something?
Gay people use protection for the same reason that most straight people use protection: disease. So what? Does being gay mean that a person should not protect themselves?
I am getting a little tired of you saying the most insensitive things and then trying to call me out for not thinking the issue through. This is not the first time that you have called me ignorant and told me that I don't consider others points of view yet you have done nothing but insult me throughout all of our conversations. Take your own advise!!! If you don't want to continue talking to me further than fine but don't try to insult my intelligence because your too shortsighted to see anyone's point-of-view but your own. And just to let you know I would consider listening to some of the garbage you spew if your presented your arguments coherently without ranting. All of that cursing was unnecessary.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: I am gay

Are you getting me confused with someone else? Are you sending me the wrong messages or something?

Mistress Cookie is a sensitive soul – an quite rightly too, I think that your graphic descriptions are to blame.

Gay people use protection for the same reason that most straight people use protection: disease.

Really? I do not think there has been a case of “disease” in Landover since the unfortunate events surrounding Pastor Micah Johnson and the band of gypsies in 1843. My experience is that “protection” is protection against the birth of a child – 50 Million potential babies killed per episode! (Makes WW2 look like a Sunday School picnic, doesn’t it?)

So what? Does being gay mean that a person should not protect themselves?

To be brutally frank, I cannot see the advantage to the human race if queers survive longer than they need to.

I am getting a little tired of you saying the most insensitive things and then trying to call me out for not thinking the issue through. This is not the first time that you have called me ignorant and told me that I don't consider others points of view

I think we have a right to be upset when, after Jesus has guided you here, you persist in putting a clearly false interpretation on His Words.

your too shortsighted to see anyone's point-of-view but your own.

This is simply untrue – we promulgate God’s Point of View – if you have a problem, it is with God. (Bad move)

And just to let you know I would consider listening to some of the garbage you spew if your presented your arguments coherently without ranting. All of that cursing was unnecessary.

Look at my signature – God said that.

[TC Patriot]

Re: I am gay

Brother Bathfire, that was one of the finest rebuking of a hell bound homer that I have seen is sometime. The world needs more Christians like you!

[Hawk]

Re: I am gay

Of course we have all sinned. But I am Saved by His Grace, and thus am sin free! When a person is Saved, salvation is assured (Romans 8:1). Shout GLORY!

You are still sinning everday! You have never stopped, because you are not perfect like God! So I assume God hates you too brother ezekiel! You cannot tell me you are holy now!
You must repent everyday, otherwise God will hate you like you mentioned before! Sinners are loved by Jesus just like you and until the day they die they have the same option to accept Jesus and be Saved!
God hates sin not the sinner, but if the sinner puts sin above God and never repents he will be lost for eternity!

Don't worry Jesus still loves you and will change you hart! You do not really want to be lost for eternity, correct?

Have a wonderful day! Oh and thanks for your generous infractions, what would I do without you!
Some verses for the day:

(Ecclesiastes 1:2) Every sin has its root in vanity.

(John 12:43) “For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God”


(Romans1:18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness


(Acts28:31) Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.


(John 14:6) Jesus said “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me”

(John 8:32) Jesus Christ promised: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I am gay

You are a false Christian and an idiot to boot. When a person is Saved, salvation is assured (Romans 8:1).

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

True Christians(tm) are SIN FREE you foreign moron. Stop interpreting the Bible and start READING IT.

[Hawk]

Re: I am gay

You are a false Christian and an idiot to boot. When a person is Saved, salvation is assured (Romans 8:1).




True Christians™ are SIN FREE you foreign moron. Stop interpreting the Bible and start READING IT.

Matthew 7:12 (King James Version)


12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.


1 John 4:20 (King James Version)


20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?







Do not just read it, try to understand it for a change!
The way you treat people is not Christlike and any true pastor will tell you that!

I am sure you would like to boot me, the Truth is tough to swallow and it will make you very upset if you are not a true Christian!

Praise Jesus Christ our Lord for He is the Almighty and has conquered the devil at the cross, may He cover and cleans us with His Blood! Amen!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I am gay

The way you treat people is not Christlike and any true pastor will tell you that!

Please show me any evidence of that. Christ commands us to rebuke unsaved scum like you. He isn't some limp-wristed hippie.

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

I am sure you would like to boot me, the Truth is tough to swallow and it will make you very upset if you are not a true Christian!

If I wanted to "boot you" you would be booted by now, believe me. But since you are so obviously removed from God's Grace, I am praying that He might pull the scales from your eyes. You love the sound of your own voice, but you have no ears to hear with. You are deeply in the devil's grasp, friend.

[Hawk]

Re: I am gay

Please show me any evidence of that. Christ commands us to rebuke unsaved scum like you. He isn't some limp-wristed hippie.







If I wanted to "boot you" you would be booted by now, believe me. But since you are so obviously removed from God's Grace, I am praying that He might pull the scales from your eyes. You love the sound of your own voice, but you have no ears to hear with. You are deeply in the devil's grasp, friend.

There is no way you can judge or tell me I am unsaved, if you are a real pastor you should know that, but you do not..............
You call God's creation scum, so what does that make you, scum as well right!
You have a fowl mouth, just like many unbelievers!
To know that I am in the devils grasp you must surely know him very good, because further of the truth you cannot be! Do you have a relationship with the devil so that you can tell people these kind of information or are you just speculating?

Stop transgressing God's Law, thou shall not bear false witness!! If you do not know the truth, stop speculating!

Have a wonderful day!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: I am gay

Hawk,
You know, there are those false Christians, who have no idea of the Bible, who come here and tell us not to judge! (I know, it’s hard to believe, but it’s true!) Who are these people who callously disregard "1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."?

There are those who complain at the title “Unsaved Trash” – but who are they but tares before the scythe of The Lord of Hosts? Should we lie and say they are “good people”? No - M'r:10:18: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Others say we speak harshly – well, look at my signature. Can you understand the torment we go through to help others? This is not easy work.

Some even say we are in league with the Devil himself!!! But we all know that the Devil cannot recite Scripture and Landover only ever quotes the Words of The Almighty!

Hawk, you see that many people think they are Christian, some even think they are Saved™ but when they are told the Truth of God’s Word, they scream and fight like stuck pigs because suddenly they see that they are not Christians at all but have invented their own little god…

It’s all very sad really… now, please join with me in a silent pray
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