[Jedediah]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE NOW RELIZED YOU ARE SATANS MINIONS! it is our job to help gay people turn christians! but either way you people are living inside a box and when God throws your box into a firey pit you will then relize all this crap you are doing. you think your sins are clensed you haven't even begun to ask for forgivness if you are to ask tfor forgivness then STOP SINNING! BUT OFCOURSE THAT IS NOT IN YOUR NATURE. besides how is it you guarantee salvation if you are condeming? riddle me that one!

So full of hate! I see you have no argument against the Truth we have shown you and instead choose to resort to angry ad hominem attacks.

We are indeed blessed by your persecution.

Luke 6:22
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Matthew 5:10-11
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

But we Christians are a forgiving bunch, and we are willing to work with you to gain a better understanding of the religion you claim to believe in, despite clear evidence to the contrary. We love you, and we want you to join us in Heaven.

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I forgive you for the hateful things you have said.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE NOW RELIZED YOU ARE SATANS MINIONS! it is our job to help gay people turn christians! but either way you people are living inside a box and when God throws your box into a firey pit you will then relize all this crap you are doing. you think your sins are clensed you haven't even begun to ask for forgivness if you are to ask tfor forgivness then STOP SINNING! BUT OFCOURSE THAT IS NOT IN YOUR NATURE. besides how is it you guarantee salvation if you are condeming? riddle me that one!

Could you cite the scripture where True Christians are instructed to save people that lead lives of abomination? We are more than willing to accept ex-gays anytime they have accepted the Lord's direction concerning their lifestyle. What you seem to be suggesting that we ignore what the Bible says and accept them and their sinning ways. What kind of Christians would that make us? 2 faced maybe, fluffy bunny at the best.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE NOW RELIZED YOU ARE SATANS MINIONS! it is our job to help gay people turn christians!

You can't be gay and Christian.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

1 Kings 15:11-12 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.
And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

1 Kings 22:45-46 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, and his might that he shewed, and how he warred, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?
And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.

2 Kings 23:7 And he[Josiah] brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.

Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. (some believe this says the Antichrist will be gay)

1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

but either way you people are living inside a box and when God throws your box into a firey pit you will then relize all this crap you are doing.

According to the Bible, we aren't the ones going to hell. For even supporting queers, Paul writes that you deserve death and damnation.

Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

How much more plainly can it be put?

you think your sins are clensed you haven't even begun to ask for forgivness if you are to ask tfor forgivness then STOP SINNING! BUT OFCOURSE THAT IS NOT IN YOUR NATURE. besides how is it you guarantee salvation if you are condeming?

Where in the Bible does it say we should keep our mouths shut about people's sins? Where does it say that would should allow people to do whatever they want to?

[Belle_07]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Yes, only those without sin should cast the first stone; that's exactly why Landover Baptists can cast stones, as Jesus Christ has washed away their sins (Acts 22:16)!

I'm grateful you saved your inevitable Hitler references until your second post, the suspense was unbearable.



Belle, it looks like you have a problem with GOD, take it up with Him. Landover Baptists do as He commands, nothing more, nothing less.



If they WANTED to judge, they'd spend their time at a queer rights forum chastising uneducated filth. What they want is to enjoy fellowship here in their home in peace, but you deviants keep showing up uninvited. Why are gay people so rude and hateful?



God doesn't love them. He says they are abominations that should be stoned to death (Leviticus 20:13)



He DID take care of that in the King James Bible. He told Christians to stone homosexuals to death and He'll take care of the eternal Hell fire part.



You think your theory of different rates of decomposition is "ovious?" Please elucidate, I am enthralled by your wisdom.



I know, making an account must be a herculean effort for you. You have to type in a name, a password, and an email, then click on a link. It can take a person of normal intelligence perhaps 30 seconds; for you, hours? Days?

YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE NOW RELIZED YOU ARE SATANS MINIONS! it is our job to help gay people turn christians! but either way you people are living inside a box and when God throws your box into a firey pit you will then relize all this crap you are doing. you think your sins are clensed you haven't even begun to ask for forgivness if you are to ask tfor forgivness then STOP SINNING! BUT OFCOURSE THAT IS NOT IN YOUR NATURE. besides how is it you guarantee salvation if you are condeming? riddle me that one!

[Cursed]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

let he who is with out sin cast the first stone! so now that we are critisizing each others user names, so captain? huh what are you a captain of? nazis? are you the new hitler?

Yes, only those without sin should cast the first stone; that's exactly why Landover Baptists can cast stones, as Jesus Christ has washed away their sins (Acts 22:16)!

I'm grateful you saved your inevitable Hitler references until your second post, the suspense was unbearable.

God should be the one to judge people not some nazi cult such as your selfs.

Belle, it looks like you have a problem with GOD, take it up with Him. Landover Baptists do as He commands, nothing more, nothing less.

but if it's a judge you want then here i am!

If they WANTED to judge, they'd spend their time at a queer rights forum chastising uneducated filth. What they want is to enjoy fellowship here in their home in peace, but you deviants keep showing up uninvited. Why are gay people so rude and hateful?

even though it is not your perference to be gay others do have it as a preference they are still Gods creations, and unlike you God still loves them,

God doesn't love them. He says they are abominations that should be stoned to death (Leviticus 20:13)

oviously they don't know of the lord and it is our job to help them, not condemn them God can take care of that.

He DID take care of that in the King James Bible. He told Christians to stone homosexuals to death and He'll take care of the eternal Hell fire part.

and as for me burning in hell you may be right but you know what i am not too far behind you at least i wont rot like you will oviously!

You think your theory of different rates of decomposition is "ovious?" Please elucidate, I am enthralled by your wisdom.

by the way this is belles friend I didnt want to waste my time and make some account but i want to voice my opinion just like you nazis are trashing on HUMAN BEINGS GODS CREATIONS!!!!!

I know, making an account must be a herculean effort for you. You have to type in a name, a password, and an email, then click on a link. It can take a person of normal intelligence perhaps 30 seconds; for you, hours? Days?

[Jedediah]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Lady, you would realize that your fluffy-bunny, false Christian talking points have been thoroughly debunked if you could be bothered to actually read the responses to your vain attempt at cherry-picking Scripture to support your preconceived, fag-enabling notions.

You are only making yourself look like an even bigger fool by persisting in displaying your ignorance of Scripture.

Proverbs 26:11
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

[Belle_07]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

let he who is with out sin cast the first stone! so now that we are critisizing each others user names, so captain? huh what are you a captain of? nazis? are you the new hitler? God should be the one to judge people not some nazi cult such as your selfs. but if it's a judge you want then here i am! even though it is not your perference to be gay others do have it as a preference they are still Gods creations, and unlike you God still loves them, oviously they don't know of the lord and it is our job to help them, not condemn them God can take care of that. and as for me burning in hell you may be right but you know what i am not too far behind you at least i wont rot like you will oviously! by the way this is belles friend I didnt want to waste my time and make some account but i want to voice my opinion just like you nazis are trashing on HUMAN BEINGS GODS CREATIONS!!!!!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Belle, I think everything you have talked about has been answered here. Capt. Portway made an excellent reply, as well I strongly urge you to go back and read the post just before yours by Jedediah. After reading it, you will realize everything you've been taught (including this false pastor Miles) is nonsense.

• You associate and befriend the unsaved, even though the Bible tells us it is wrong. (Matthew 10:14-15, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 10:20, 2 Cor. 6:14-17, Eph. 5:11, 2 Thess. 3:16, 2 John 1:9-11)
• You misunderstand Jesus's sacrifice, thinking it erased the entire Law (Old Testament). It merely erased the need for sacrificing animals and dietary laws. (Excellent summary about this here)
• You admit you sin, but a True Christian(tm) does not sin. Jedediah provides Scripture and teachings regarding this in the post above yours.
• You say we need to spread the Word of Christ to the unsaved, which is true, and what we are commanded to, but you'd rather water down the Word and twist it so it's full of 21st century political correctness and modern day secular ideas. How are you teaching the Word of Christ? You're not. You're teaching a bastardized, false version to the unsaved....and leading them straight to Hell. We genuinely do care about unsaved people going to Hell, which is why we pull no punches in telling them the truth.

[Jedediah]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Hello Everyone.
Even though I am a Christian, I have two close friends, who are Bisexual. No matter who or what they like, they are still my friends and I love them the same. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong, but that does not mean I am going to be a Pharisee about it.

Please do not call yourself a Christian if you cannot be bothered to follow the Word of God to the letter. You make True Christians™ look bad. People are going to read fluffy-bunny drivel from people like yourself and get the wrong idea about what it means to be a Christian.

If you took your walk with Christ seriously, then you would not be friends with sodomites. Unless you are witnessing the Gospel to them or actively trying to convert them, there is no reason to mingle with non-believers.

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

II Corinthians 6:14-17
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

My closest friend is bi and I still love her like she was my sister. She still is who she is and we are still closer than ever.

If you loved her, then you would scourge her and chasten her for being a degenerate sex pervert. By molly-coddling her wanton depredation, you are being as hateful as anyone can be.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

There is a verse in the New Testament that says Homosexuality is wrong, but it doesn’t stop there. It goes on to talk about all the other sins that are wrong, like adultery.

What is your point? Do you molly-coddle adulterers as well?

People quote Leviticus 20:13 and yet they do not realize that The Old Testament does not apply to us anymore because part of the reason why Jesus came was to fulfill that. He was the perfect lamb that was sacrificed so that we don’t have to do that every time we sin.

This is how I know that you are not a True Christian™. Jesus died on the cross so that when we become Christian our sins are wiped away. If we are truly Saved®, then it is literally impossible for us to continue sinning (see my post from earlier this evening for relevant Scripture; I do not feel that I should have to repeat myself because you can't be bothered to read before posting). If we continue to sin, then we were never Saved® in the first place.

Furthermore, the Old Testament is in full effect. Aside from a few dietary restrictions and laws about animal sacrifice (Acts 10:9-16, Hebrews 10:4-14), the Law from the Old Testament is still valid. Or do you think Heaven and Earth have passed?

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

But if you want to toss out the Law forbidding homosexuality, where are you going to stop? Should we also throw out the 10 Commandments? Should we throw out the prohibition against bestiality? This is exactly why we shouldn't think for ourselves and instead just follow the Instructions in the KJV1611 (Proverbs 3:5-6).

II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

You should just admit to yourself that you are following a false religion of your own imagining. There is nothing remotely Christian about your false doctrines. You might as well be worshiping cows and selling flowers at the airport.

Our job, as Christians, is to tell Non Christians about Christ. In this, it doesn’t give us a reason to point fingers at everyone because in reality, there are three fingers pointing back at you.

Guidance for how to spread the Gospel to non-believers is given below. Please explain how this says we should molly-coddle sodomites.

II Timothy 4:1-5
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Further evidence that you are an unsaved false Christian is given when you insinuate that we are also sinners. While it is true that everyone posting here was born into sin, we True Christians™ have had our sins washed away by His Blood and we are now incapable of sinning. Thus, when we judge others, we judge righteous judgment because we are perfect.

We are called to be light of the world (Matthew 5:14-16). How can we be light of the world, when we are sitting there, telling everyone who is different that they belong in hell? Just because we are Christians, doesn’t mean we are better than everyone. I definitely know that I am not better what-so-ever!

There is a difference between telling people what they want to hear and telling them what they need to hear. We would rather save one soul that pack out stadiums full of people to tell them what they want to hear. You advocate the latter.

Evangelizing is not a popularity contest. If only one person reads our Godly forum and goes on to truly accept Christ as his or her personal LORD and Savior, then we have done more good than you could possibly do by condoning and tacitly encouraging perversion in your friends. If you truly cared about them, you would rebuke them with furious rebukes and put the fear of God in them, even if it means some of them would walk away from you. If just one would receive the Message, then you would have done the work of an evangelist.

Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Further, our being True Christians™ does mean that we are better than others, by definition.

II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

You wouldn't need these concepts spoon-fed to you if you could actually be bothered to familiarize yourself with the religion you profess belief in.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Hello Everyone.
I was raised as a Christian. I go to church EVERY Sunday and I went to a private school for seven years of my life. I have full Knowledge about the bible and who Christ is. I would first like to address how much you people are acting like Pharisees towards the Homosexual community. Even though I am a Christian, I have two close friends, who are Bisexual. No matter who or what they like, they are still my friends and I love them the same. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong, but that does not mean I am going to be a Pharisee about it. If someone asked me to name all my sins, it will take me more than a minute to list all of them. My closest friend is bi and I still love her like she was my sister. She still is who she is and we are still closer than ever. There is a verse in the New Testament that says Homosexuality is wrong, but it doesn’t stop there. It goes on to talk about all the other sins that are wrong, like adultery. People quote Leviticus 20:13 and yet they do not realize that The Old Testament does not apply to us anymore because part of the reason why Jesus came was to fulfill that. He was the perfect lamb that was sacrificed so that we don’t have to do that every time we sin. I can sit here and tell you how much you’re wrong, but I heard a Known Christian Pastor (Miles McPherson) tell The Rock Church that we should love on the people that are “different” than us. Our job, as Christians, is to tell Non Christians about Christ. In this, it doesn’t give us a reason to point fingers at everyone because in reality, there are three fingers pointing back at you. Sin is sin is sin. One white lie is the same thing as a rapist. All homosexuals want to be is loved and be loved in return. We are called to be light of the world (Matthew 5:14-16). How can we be light of the world, when we are sitting there, telling everyone who is different that they belong in hell? Just because we are Christians, doesn’t mean we are better than everyone. I definitely know that I am not better what-so-ever!

Belle, is the 07 in your user name your age? Because you sound like a little kid talking about Fluffy Bunny Sunday school! I don't have time to refute all the mistakes in your post, but I will hit the Big Ones.

1) The Old Testament doesn't apply anymore-----WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

Read this little one:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:17-19


Did you get that? The Law (The Old Testament) is still in force, therefore queers are damned!




2)Christians shouldn't judge, they should "Love Thy Neighbor" ---- WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

True Christians™ are TASKED to judge non-believers and FALSE Christians! Check THIS out!


Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Leviticus 19:15


See that? It is our JOB to pass judgment on those that break His laws.




3)If you just love everybody and "live a good life", you'll go to Heaven ---WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

If you, as a supposed Christian, do not follow the entire KJV 1611 Bible, TO THE LETTER, you are a FALSE Christian. Cherry-picking the Word of God is like spitting in the face of the Baby Jesus!

So keep on the way you are Belle, and you'll burn in Hell for all eternity with your disgusting dyke friends!

[Belle_07]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Hello Everyone.
I was raised as a Christian. I go to church EVERY Sunday and I went to a private school for seven years of my life. I have full Knowledge about the bible and who Christ is. I would first like to address how much you people are acting like Pharisees towards the Homosexual community. Even though I am a Christian, I have two close friends, who are Bisexual. No matter who or what they like, they are still my friends and I love them the same. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong, but that does not mean I am going to be a Pharisee about it. If someone asked me to name all my sins, it will take me more than a minute to list all of them. My closest friend is bi and I still love her like she was my sister. She still is who she is and we are still closer than ever. There is a verse in the New Testament that says Homosexuality is wrong, but it doesn’t stop there. It goes on to talk about all the other sins that are wrong, like adultery. People quote Leviticus 20:13 and yet they do not realize that The Old Testament does not apply to us anymore because part of the reason why Jesus came was to fulfill that. He was the perfect lamb that was sacrificed so that we don’t have to do that every time we sin. I can sit here and tell you how much you’re wrong, but I heard a Known Christian Pastor (Miles McPherson) tell The Rock Church that we should love on the people that are “different” than us. Our job, as Christians, is to tell Non Christians about Christ. In this, it doesn’t give us a reason to point fingers at everyone because in reality, there are three fingers pointing back at you. Sin is sin is sin. One white lie is the same thing as a rapist. All homosexuals want to be is loved and be loved in return. We are called to be light of the world (Matthew 5:14-16). How can we be light of the world, when we are sitting there, telling everyone who is different that they belong in hell? Just because we are Christians, doesn’t mean we are better than everyone. I definitely know that I am not better what-so-ever!

[Jedediah]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A DISEASE! You people need to stop treating it like one. It is not a “choice”, it is not something that can be cured because there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being homosexual.

This is a liberal talking point that is trotted out when unsaved trash wish to justify their perversion and their disregard for God's Word. You simply cannot back up this assertion, because homosexuality is clearly a sin if you can actually be bothered to read more than a few cherry-picked, out-of-context "Jesus loves everybody no matter what they do" quotes from the Holy Bible (KJV 1611).

Furthermore, homosexuality can be cured. Do you see the Ex-Gay© award under my name? They don't just hand those out, you know. It took me many intense months of prayer, counseling, and elective procedures to cure my perversion, but it can be done. If you were serious about your walk with Christ, you would seek out a cure as well instead of coming to our Christian forum and claiming that your own vain opinion supercedes the Word of God!

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:25-28
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

John 3:16 states “For God to love the world that He gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life.” God loves all of His children, despite who they are involved with socially. He will not hold being gay against someone, so what gives you people the right to?

False Christians always stop at John 3:16. Let's try that verse in its proper context, shall we?

John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

It is not enough to merely pay lip service. If you actually believe that Jesus will save you from your sins, then you must also take Him seriously when it comes to keeping His Commandments.

Deuteronomy 13:4
Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

God does indeed love His children, but who are His children? The answer is found in Scripture.

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

The sons of God are those who receive Him and follow His Word. One is not a son of God merely by being born. Indeed, we are all born into sin! (Psalm 51:5) Unless we are washed in the Blood of Jesus and go forth and sin no more (John 5:14, John 8:11, etc.), we cannot be considered children of God!

Similarly, the fact that you cherry-pick a few agreeable verses of Scripture and call yourself a Christian does not mean that you are a True Christian™. Unless you make some serious changes in your life, you are going to be in for a rude awakening on Judgment Day.

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

When Jesus did his ministry, the only people he hung around with were basically considered the “rejects of the world” by society which INCLUDED prostitutes, diseased people, and homosexuals. Obviously, if the son of God had no issue with people who are gay then it’s obviously not a sin against God.

Please support your assertions with Scripture. I do not recall Jesus palling around with AIDS-ridden homers.

Many of us True Christian™ wallowed in wanton perversion and depredation before finding Jesus. I know I did. But once we become washed in His Blood and accept His offer of Redemption, we are no longer the same person. When we become True Christians™, we take Jesus' exhortation to sin no more seriously. Indeed, as children of God who abide in righteousness and perfection, we cannot sin! Praise Him!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Philippians 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

I John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

“Let he without sin cast the first stone.” Are every one of you saying that you have not sinned that you are beyond perfection? A sin is a sin, and if all of you believe that homosexuality is a huge sin, what do you believe that God thinks of torture? Suicide? Death of His children encouraged by close-minded loons who make them feel ashamed for who they are? Mathew 7:1-2: “Do not judge or you too will be judged for in the same way you judge others you will be judged and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.”

False Christians regularly and predictably come here and quote John 8:7 to us, thinking that they are making some sort of profound point. Again, let's examine this verse in context.

John 8:7-11
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

In this verse, Jesus is speaking to unsaved trash who have not accepted Him as their LORD and Savior. At that time, He had not yet died (temporarily) on the Cross, so it was not possible for any to be washed in His Blood at that period in history.

The unsaved trash to whom Jesus spoke were born in sin just as we all are (e.g., Romans 3:23). The difference between the Pharisees and True Christians™, though, is that True Christians™ have been washed in the Blood of Jesus while the Pharisees had not. You can study all the Scripture you want, but unless one has accepted Jesus Christ as his personal LORD and Savior and has been baptized in His Name, there is no way one can have his or her sins washed away. It is only through the Blood of Christ that we are made perfect.

Further, Jesus here illustrates His Grace. Instead of condemning the harlot, he exhorts her to live as a True Christian™ and commit no more sin.

As for your twisting and perverting of Matthew 7, our own Rev. Jim Osborne has given a detailed sermon on the matter in this thread:
The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

I suggest you read that for your own edification. To summarize, as perfect True Christians™, it is our prerogative and our obligation to judge righteous judgment. We can quickly bury you up to your neck in Scripture if you aren't willing to take my word for it.

God only forbids hypocritical judgment (e.g., Leviticus 19:15, John 7:24, etc.). But since we are perfect Christians, there is nothing hypocritical about our righteous judgment. You would already know this if you could be bothered to read more than a small handful of cherry-picked verses.

A person’s choices in life determines who they are; the right and wrong in their life, not who they choose to put “In a Relationship With:” on Facebook.

Is choosing to be in a relationship or have gay sex with someone not a choice?

Personally, I am a BISEXUAL. This is not something I am ashamed of; in fact, I’m PROUD to be bi. I’ve known that I was interested in both genders from a very young age, and there is nothing wrong with this. Yes, I do believe in God, and yes I do pray to Him quite often. I know that God is forgiving and loving and He will not care who I choose to love as long as it makes me happy

Please provide the Scripture that says there is nothing wrong with being an unrepentant homer.

You follow a false god that exists only in your sorely deluded imagination.

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If you do not change your wicked ways, ignoring the instructions God left for us in the Bible, then when you die, your false hippy Christ will reveal his true demon form to you. He will laugh at you for being so foolish in the life God gave to you as to be led astray by false deceivers and their false doctrines. He will grab you by the ankle, spin you around, and hurtle you into a black abyss.

You will fall for what seems like days. Then you will feel it getting hotter, and you will see a small read dot off in the distance. As you fall closer to the red dot, your skin will blister from the heat, and the dot will grow larger. As you get closer and closer, you will see horned beasts flying above what appear to be the shapes of men and women thrashing around in a pool of lava. These are the souls of the damned, and you are on your way to joining them.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Your skin will burn off. You will writhe in agony and gnash your teeth so hard they shatter. Oh, how you will scream and scream and scream. But no one is here to help you. You have already rejected Jesus, and now it is too late. The flying demons will swoop down upon you, lift you out of the molten lava, and tear you to shreds. This is their way of welcoming you to hell. You will instantly regenerate, only to suffer these and other, indescribable torments for eternity.

Isaiah 66:24
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

But there is Good News! You still have a chance to avoid this fate if you repent of your wickedness, ask Jesus into your heart, be washed in His Blood, and live by every word contained in the Bible (KJV 1611). We love you as only a True Christian™ could, and we want you to join us in Heaven. Won't you please reconsider the path you are on and walk in the ways of True Christianity™?

And who are you to tell me I’m wrong? So go right ahead. Call me an enemy of God. I know this to be false.

We are True Christians™, that's who! Everything we are telling you is straight from the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). It doesn't matter what I think, and it doesn't matter what you think. All that matters is what God commands. If you don't like it, take it up with God, not us. We are merely His messengers.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Hello everyone. I came across this forum a day or so ago and I felt the compelling need to post. And after reading through all 37 pages of topics, I have come to a conclusion: You so called “Christians” are twisting the Bible to serve your own purposes. Guess what? HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A DISEASE! You people need to stop treating it like one. It is not a “choice”, it is not something that can be cured because there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being homosexual.

How wrong you are. As an Ex-Gay© I can assure that the depravities of my unsaved homo life were absolutely wrong in the eyes of the Lord. The AIDS is a direct punishment from God for the disease of Sodomania that queers like I used to be chose to be afflicted with.

John 3:16 states “For God to love the world that He gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life.”

Here you are misunderstanding and misquoting the Bible. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Are you a Christian? Have you accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and savior at an Independent Baptist Church?

And here is another Bible quote for you to ponder.


If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

God loves all of His children, despite who they are involved with socially. He will not hold being gay against someone, so what gives you people the right to? . If God can love His children if they are homosexual, then why can’t you? What gives you the right to discriminate against someone else’s life? When Jesus did his ministry, the only people he hung around with were basically considered the “rejects of the world” by society which INCLUDED prostitutes, diseased people, and homosexuals. Obviously, if the son of God had no issue with people who are gay then it’s obviously not a sin against God.
I am not trying to say people cannot disapprove of homosexuality, because that is going to happen anyway. I’m saying taking it to the extreme of basically applauding when a poor soul takes his life because he is ashamed of his homosexuality or encouraging a twelve step program to cure oneself of homosexuality, or not allowing your sons to be in their sisters’ rooms because that might turn them gay, then that is the point of ridiculous. “Let he without sin cast the first stone.” Are every one of you saying that you have not sinned that you are beyond perfection? A sin is a sin, and if all of you believe that homosexuality is a huge sin, what do you believe that God thinks of torture? Suicide? Death of His children encouraged by close-minded loons who make them feel ashamed for who they are? Mathew 7:1-2: “Do not judge or you too will be judged for in the same way you judge others you will be judged and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.” How about before the next time any one of you decides to spout against someone for being who they are, take a good hard look in the mirror? Let’s give that a try.
Being bisexual, homosexual, whatever any person is does NOT make them a bad person. A person’s choices in life determines who they are; the right and wrong in their life, not who they choose to put “In a Relationship With:” on Facebook. There is a belief that people who are considered “gay-bashers” are indeed homosexuals themselves, but are too ashamed to come out of the metaphorical closet. Is that the case with all of you? Because, frankly, you posses a lot of rage towards homosexuals. Again, I repeat: take a look in the mirror.
Personally, I am a BISEXUAL. This is not something I am ashamed of; in fact, I’m PROUD to be bi. I’ve known that I was interested in both genders from a very young age, and there is nothing wrong with this. Yes, I do believe in God, and yes I do pray to Him quite often. I know that God is forgiving and loving and He will not care who I choose to love as long as it makes me happy. I am not committing a sin against Him by being involved romantically with someone of my own gender. And I also know that every single one of you so-called debaters is going to see this post and chastise me for my life, and I do not care. You are names on a screen to me, and mean nothing. My family and friends love and accept me as does God. And who are you to tell me I’m wrong? So go right ahead. Call me an enemy of God. I know this to be false.

You are an enemy of God.

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[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

I AM A HATE-FILLED QUEER!!!

Thanks for that wall of text!

Listen whatever you are, it is usually customary to at least introduce yourself to a group of people before you yell at them about how wrong they are!

Why don't you just give me your address so I can fly to where ever you live and shout at you about how stupid and wrong you are about EVERYTHING!! No? Well that's what you just did!