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  • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

    Originally posted by vented View Post
    I'm a man, so I wasn't dressed like a whore.
    If you believe that tight, shiny spandex pants and fishnet top (as your kind of male jail-baits are used to dress up) look manly, then you’re wrong. At such kind of “come-hither” attitude… no wonders.

    I’d say you had it coming.

    Besides, mind your manners, especially toward True Christian ladies!
    Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


    ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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    • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

      Originally posted by Dan U. Holier View Post
      If you believe that tight, shiny spandex pants and fishnet top (as your kind of male jail-baits are used to dress up) look manly, then you’re wrong. At such kind of “come-hither” attitude… no wonders.

      I’d say you had it coming.

      Besides, mind your manners, especially toward True Christian ladies!
      I promise you I'm not gay, and I was wearing normal clothing. There were three of them, they looked like women and said they needed help with something in there hotel room, I decided to help them, once we got up there, those monsters revealed that they weren't women at all, I don't socialize with homers so i started to leave, they wouldn't let me...that's when they raped me, it was so awful.

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      • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

        Originally posted by Billy Bob Jenkins View Post
        Thank you for taking your infraction like a man. I'll bet you took their engorged tallywackers with equal grace.
        Thank you Brother Billy! I tried to take it with grace, I tried.

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        • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

          Originally posted by vented View Post
          Thank you Brother Billy! I tried to take it with grace, I tried.
          You're saying you tried to ENJOY it???

          My name is BILLY BOB!!!
          The Only Real Climate Change Will be Hell!

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          • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

            Originally posted by Billy Bob Jenkins View Post
            You're saying you tried to ENJOY it???

            My name is BILLY BOB!!!
            I didn't tried to enjoy it, it was horrible.

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            • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

              Were is the empathy, and pity that our faith is supposedly known for? How is it we are so quick to dismiss others as christians, and label them heathens, as we use such violent language?

              I'd never fault anyone for judging someone and coming to the conclusion that another isnt living in accordance to God, but to then stone that individual, or openly damn them to hell, is a step that us christians should never take.

              I myself am transgender, many would label me transexual, but I know that I'm compelled to love Jesus and all of his children. The someway I'm compelled to live as a girl, and you a boy. If you disagree with that, then so be it. I fully respect that, so long as you came to that conclusion with all the love and rationality within your being. Choose not associate with me, or to look me in they eye, Forbid your children to to the same, but I certainly hope you would curtail your words and action, and respect me as child of our Lord.

              (Sorry if this is TMI but I pray we can all be adult about this)

              I was born Intersexed. I have PMDS, born with external male genitals, a Uterus, fallopian structure, and breast. My Neurological structure is Female, and my hormonal structure is largely androgynous leaning towards male. I was raised male and later artificially geared my Hormonal structure male aswell.

              I always fought with my gender Identity, and was always ashamed by it. After an internal struggle and allot of fierce praying, I came out and started to transition to Female.

              I'm happier now then I've ever been, I dont hide my past from anyone that I from relationships with, and I know this is who I should of been.

              With genetic misshaps like me, wouldn't it stand to reason that maybe there is more to this gender thing then what first meets the eye?

              I certainly wish that God wont be so quick to damn me, as many of my Christian brethren.
              Lev.20:13
              If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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              • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                Dear Revolting Pervert;

                I hope you will give Jesus a chance to wash the degeneracy away by giving you a bath in His sweet, sweet blood. Take my word for it; It's much better to be a True Christian(tm) than a queer.

                Lev.20:13
                If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

                John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                  Originally posted by UndeadErin View Post
                  Were is the empathy, and pity that our faith is supposedly known for? How is it we are so quick to dismiss others as christians, and label them heathens, as we use such violent language?
                  What is this "we" talk? You are an unsaved abomination, destined for the fiery pits of hell. I suggest that you read the following sermon from Pastor Sampson before presuming to fellowship with us:
                  Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                  I'd never fault anyone for judging someone and coming to the conclusion that another isnt living in accordance to God, but to then stone that individual, or openly damn them to hell, is a step that us christians should never take.
                  And you would be right to do so, because any judgment you make would be hypocritical since you persist in wallowing in sin, perversion, and depredation. God forbids hypocritical judgment.

                  However, if you actually read Matthew 7:1-5 in context, it would be quite obvious to you that Jesus does not prohibit judgment by those whom He has preordained to Salvation™. Since True Christians™ are perfect, there is no hypocrisy in our righteous judgments.

                  So not only does your assertion that Christians should not judge others have no basis in Scripture, it quite flagrantly contradicts God's Word.

                  Psalm 37:30
                  The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

                  John 7:24
                  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

                  Try actually reading some Scripture before presuming to tell us how to be Christians.
                  Being a True Christian™ isn't simply a matter of checking the right box on a demographic survey.


                  I myself am transgender, many would label me transexual, but I know that I'm compelled to love Jesus and all of his children. The someway I'm compelled to live as a girl, and you a boy. If you disagree with that, then so be it. I fully respect that, so long as you came to that conclusion with all the love and rationality within your being. Choose not associate with me, or to look me in they eye, Forbid your children to to the same, but I certainly hope you would curtail your words and action, and respect me as child of our Lord.
                  If you were a Christian, you would stop sinning, enroll in Ex-Gay therapy, and find yourself a submissive, obedient wife to rule over and bear your sons. The simple fact that you think God will accept you "as is" rather than as He commands is sufficient evidence to determine that you are deluded and will not have a place in the Kingdom of Heaven. God commands one thing above all else: OBEDIENCE.

                  Deuteronomy 27:10
                  Thou shalt therefore obey the voice of the LORD thy God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

                  Acts 5:32
                  And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.


                  But you insist on having your way instead of obeying the LORD when he tells you to stop sinning!

                  John 8:11
                  She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

                  II Corinthians 5:17
                  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

                  Your problem is one that we see quite often: You follow your conscience rather than the Word of God.

                  I was born Intersexed. I have PMDS, born with external male genitals, a Uterus, fallopian structure, and breast. My Neurological structure is Female, and my hormonal structure is largely androgynous leaning towards male. I was raised male and later artificially geared my Hormonal structure male aswell.

                  I always fought with my gender Identity, and was always ashamed by it. After an internal struggle and allot of fierce praying, I came out and started to transition to Female.
                  I'm not sure who you think you were praying to, but it certainly wasn't the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It certainly wasn't our Father in Heaven. God doesn't listen to the prayers of sinners.

                  God is quite clear on homosexurality and transgenderism... that is, if you actually bother to read His Word rather than talking to yourself or some demon whispering deception into your ear.

                  Transgenderism
                  :

                  Deuteronomy 22:5
                  The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

                  Matthew 19:4-6
                  And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
                  And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
                  Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

                  Homosexurality
                  :


                  Leviticus 20:13
                  If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

                  Romans 1:25-28
                  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
                  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
                  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
                  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

                  I Corinthians 6:9
                  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,


                  I'm happier now then I've ever been, I dont hide my past from anyone that I from relationships with, and I know this is who I should of been.

                  With genetic misshaps like me, wouldn't it stand to reason that maybe there is more to this gender thing then what first meets the eye?

                  I certainly wish that God wont be so quick to damn me, as many of my Christian brethren.
                  Frankly, after reflecting on the absurdities you have spewed here, praying, and doing a little Bible Study, I think that God simply doesn't want you in Heaven, queering up the joint. It's often a surprise to people who call themselves "Christian" but can't be bothered to actually read God's Word that God doesn't love everybody and that He creates most people (Matthew 7:14) simply so that He can damn them to eternity in the lake of fire He created for satan and the demons (Matthew 25:41).

                  But if you scratch more than skin deep into what we Christians actually believe, you will find that God creates evil (Exodus 4:11, Isaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6) and that He creates wicked children with full intention. Just as I and the rest of Jesus' elect were preordained to Salvation™ from the time before we were born (Romans 9:11), unrepentant sinners like you were born with an entirely different destination in mind.

                  Psalm 58:3
                  The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

                  Proverbs 16:4
                  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

                  Jesus didn't come to save everyone; he came to save those predestined to the Glory. If it wasn't given unto you by God the Father, then I'm afraid that there are nothing in the way of comforting words to be found for you in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611)

                  John 6:64-65
                  But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
                  And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

                  II Thessalonians 2:11-13
                  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
                  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
                  But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

                  Jude 1:4
                  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

                  But look on the bright side. At least you get to serve as a reminder for me and my Brothers and Sisters in Christ of how lucky we are to be destined for Heavenly bliss, pressed against Jesus' bosom, singing praise songs, for all eternity.
                  II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                  The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                  • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                    I find myself in a weird situation....

                    I actually came across the forum and this post when I did a search for Christian view of shemales. I find myself so torn this way and that. I'm a Christian, I have been pretty much since childhood. I pray, read, go to church, can quote a lot of the bible etc. But there was a lot of crazy things in my childhood. We were poor, broken home, mental illness, and unfortunately my father was into porn. Not much but a bit. So we would sometimes find his porn movies and mags and watch them in my teens. One thing seemingly lead to another. I got into buying porn mags. Then tapes. Then eventually I heard that there was this thing called "the internet" coming. I heard there was a lot of porn online. So when I was thinking of getting online I remember thinking "the day I get online and look at porn, someone needs to shoot me!" like I was that adiment that I wasn't gonna do that. So I get online, in no time I get tempted and started looking at porn online. Crazy thing is that was all the way back in 1996 I believe. Now here I am in 2012, just turned 37 and still addicted to porn.

                    So here's where it gets into this thread....

                    This was about 11 years ago. I found this whole thing about "shemales" online. Like a porn catagory. So I took a peek, not really wanting to look, or not wanting to get interested in it. Just a curious peek. I looked, got turned off and didn't look again at that for some time. Maybe a few years. Then from time to time I'd take a peek at that type of porn. I'm not sure when but at some point I actually would get turned on by it. I think this was about 7 years ago. Since then it's been nothing but a battle. It's evolved into a shemale infatuation or something crazy. I met one once just for coffee but was very repulsed by her/him thank goodness. So I've never messed around in that department thank goodness! And never met any since that one coffee date. But since I still get these crazed urges. Like I mean right now I'm wearing my Christian hat. But when I get into basically sex mode then it's like a whole other person comes out. I have no idea who this person is. It's like they even want to meet a shemale. I want to avoid meeting any of them. As I've come to learn from what I read that infact yes, they are not what they seem at all. It's all a phasod.

                    But I guess to a guy who has this crazed porn addiction it becomes some kind of stupid fantasy. It makes me nervous at times because I don't know what to do. I just don't want to end up doing anything I'll regret. It's bad enough that I'm a straight guy with an sexual addiction, let alone this kind of thing that is there. So when I read the original post I was kinda surprised. I thought I'd at least say something. I try and live a good life. I want to. Most of the time I do. But again I need all the help I can get. I just thought reaching out to someone might be a start.

                    If you have any advice for me PM me or leave your reply. Please pray for me. Also, I have some legal problems of my own. Please pray for those as well. You're friend in Christ. ;-\

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                    • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                      So you thought sharing your sick fantasies here would be welcomed?


                      'Scuse me. I have to go throw up now.
                      Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                      • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                        Originally posted by winningedge View Post
                        I find myself in a weird situation....



                        If you have any advice for me PM me or leave your reply. Please pray for me. Also, I have some legal problems of my own. Please pray for those as well. You're friend in Christ. ;-\

                        You're not in a "weird situation," you're in a state of perverted sin! What you need to do is to repent of your degenerate, perverted ways and give your life over to Jesus. He hates you in the state you're in now.

                        Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

                        And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                          You're not in a "weird situation," you're in a state of perverted sin! What you need to do is to repent of your degenerate, perverted ways and give your life over to Jesus. He hates you in the state you're in now.

                          Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

                          And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
                          You kind of sound like someone from that loony church.. what was it again? Oh yeah, Westboro Baptist Church

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                          • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                            Originally posted by UnholySoul View Post
                            You kind of sound like someone from that loony church.. what was it again? Oh yeah, Westboro Baptist Church
                            Westboro are a bunch of limp-wristed pansies. If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

                            If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

                            You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

                            Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.
                            Who Will Jesus Damn?

                            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                            • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                              So Future President Mitt Romney wants to do away with porn in order to help restore morality to these Great United States. Does he have plans to do away with this kind of horror? Will these... people, be deported? Set to work? Rounded up and locked in a pen with the homosexuals? What's the plan? What can we look forward to?

                              Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                              • Re: SHEMALES: Satan's Tranny Trap to Lure Men to Homosexuality!

                                Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                                So Future President Mitt Romney wants to do away with porn in order to help restore morality to these Great United States. Does he have plans to do away with this kind of horror? Will these... people, be deported? Set to work? Rounded up and locked in a pen with the homosexuals? What's the plan? What can we look forward to?

                                I think they should be executed, and their bodies could be arranged into a huge cross so God can look down on us and know that we are sorry.
                                The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.~Joel 1:12

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