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  • miss Pauletta
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    Forum Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 41

    #1

    Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

    Christian beliefs DO lose out to gay rights: Judges' ruling against devout foster couple

    A Christian couple facing a foster parenting ban because of their views on homosexuality were told by a court yesterday that gay rights ‘should take precedence’ over their religious beliefs.

    Owen and Eunice Johns heard that their values could conflict with the local authority’s duty to ‘safeguard and promote the welfare’ of those in foster care.

    The grandparents have already fostered 15 children and were praised by social workers as ‘kind and hospitable people’ who ‘respond sensitively’ to youngsters.

    Outside court, Mr and Mrs Johns, aged 65 and 62, said they were ‘extremely distressed’ and had ‘only wanted to offer a loving home to a child in need’.

    They believe homosexuality is ‘against God’s law and morals’ – but said they are not homophobic and would ‘accept and love’ any child.

    The Pentecostal Christians, who have been carers since 1992, had applied to Derby City Council in 2007 to restart fostering after a break.

    But social workers raised concerns that their attitudes to homosexuality would conflict with the new Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2007.

    Traditional: The couple insisted they are not homophobic at the High Court but do not recognise civil partnerships between gay couples as marriage. The couple decided they were ‘doomed to failure’ and sought a clarification of the law over whether their religious beliefs excluded them from becoming foster carers.

    Their case, heard last year, was supported by senior clergy including former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey who, in an open letter, warned that gay rights were taking precedence over the rights of others.

    During the case, the Equality and Human Rights Commission argued that children risk being ‘infected’ by Christian moral views.

    Yesterday the retired couple’s request for a ruling that faith should not be a bar to becoming a carer was denied at the High Court in London.

    Their case was heard by one of the most senior members of the family court, Lord Justice Munby, who was sitting alongside Mr Justice Beeston.

    It was ruled that there was no discrimination against them as Christians but that their views on sexual morality may be ‘inimical’ – or harmful – to children. In that situation, they ruled: ‘The equality provisions concerning sexual orientation should take precedence.’

    The Johnses are considering an appeal but campaigners fear the ruling will be used as a blueprint for other councils to stop devout Christians from becoming foster parents.

    The couple, who have four grown-up children and six grandchildren, had applied to be respite carers offering short-term placements for children aged between five and ten.

    Mrs Johns, a retired nurse, said: ‘This is a sad day for Christianity. The judges have suggested that our views might harm children. We do not believe that this is so. We are prepared to love and accept any child.

    ‘All we were not willing to do was to tell a small child that the practice of homosexuality was a good thing.’

    She added that the couple have visited her nephew, who is gay, and his partner in San Francisco. Her husband added: ‘We wanted to offer love and stability and security to a vulnerable child. Eight-year-olds we have looked after want to play, not talk about their sexuality.’

    Yesterday the council denied that it had sought to discriminate against Mr and Mrs Johns on the grounds of religious belief, but added that it ‘welcomes the judgment’.
    We Christians keep getting persecuted worldwide! It won't be long until persecution of this magnitude spreads to the U.S. and we will no longer be able to truthfully tell children that if they are gay they will go to Hell!

    On a side note, I wonder why a predominately White culture has allowed themselves to be influenced by Satan so heavily, while a predominately black culture like Uganda remains true to the Lord. I am NOT suggesting that blacks are superior or equal. But I would just expect the uncivil and ungodly behavior to be coming from the black countries, not the White ones, is all!
    Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.
  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

    #2
    Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

    More Christian persecuton. The liberal courts can't wait to award innocent Normal children to savage homersexural couples, but God forbid that a decent Christian couple wants to provide a good Christian upbringing to an orphan.

    I blame the Clintons.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • Youth Minister Harry
      Matt 19:14 Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
      True Christian™
      • Feb 2011
      • 832

      #3
      Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

      This sounds about right for a country infested with folks like "senior clergy including former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey"...

      Awash In The River Of God's Blood Of Love,
      Harry Lester
      Slathered in the Fresh Hot Blood of the Infant Christ,
      -Youth Minister Harry Lester

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      • Pastor Isaac Peters
        Senior Pastor
        Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
        Always Biblically correct
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 10639

        #4
        Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

        That's horrible. Why should people who have made the lifestyle choice to be queer have rights over people who want to practice and teach their Christian faith?
        This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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        • Ezekiel Bathfire
          Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
          Christ's Rottweiler
           
          • Jan 2008
          • 22887

          #5
          Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

          I think this is all down to a shortage of orphans who accept God's view of queers. Yet this is not remarkable for a child would not be an orphan if his parents were Christians because God would have no reason to smite them. (Not as He needs a reason.)

          I would have liked to have heard what the little orphan had to say about homers; surely when being informed by a police officer in graphic detail, as to what disgusting practices these abominations perpetrate, the child would have only been too happy to be with the Christian couple.

          As it is, I suggest that the Christian couple buy a child on the internets and keep him at home and away from the prying eyes of the neo-Marxist British state.
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          “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

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          Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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          • false god
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
            • Mar 2011
            • 5

            #6
            Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

            im from the uk and views like the ones this couple have and all of the posters (except myself and some other normal, not retarded forum users) are keeping us in the dark ages. I really hope you one day realise the crap you are talking. if someone is gay then let them be, what harms it doing you? i couldnt give a shit if someone is black, white, gay or staight. at least they dont spout pish like you lot!!!

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            • JUAN GARCIA, repulsive dago queer
              Unsaved trash,unintelligent, undereducated, and religious hating pig
              • Jun 2009
              • 172

              #7
              Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

              You must have a really filthy mind to have to read something sexual into innocent friendship.
              Judgments are prepared for scorners, and stripes for the back of fools. Proverbs 19:29

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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78556

                #8
                Re: Christians persecuted by gay agenda in the U.K.!!!

                Originally posted by JUAN GARCIA View Post
                You must have a really filthy mind to have to read something sexual into innocent friendship.
                Says the rabid dago queer.
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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