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  • Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

    Curtis Knapp, of New Hope Baptist Church in Seneca, Kansas, has the courage to say what all True Christians are thinking: The gays should be killed, and the government should be held accountable for doing it.

    We punish pedophilia. We punish incest. We punish polygamy and various things,” Knapp told KTKA. “It’s only homosexuality that is lifted out as an exemption.”

    Knapp argued that his sermon was rooted in Biblical verse.


    “‘If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act,’” he quoted from Leviticus 20:12. “‘They shall surely be put to death.’”
    While sticking to his view, Knapp said he himself wouldn’t attack homosexuals.


    “I don’t believe I should lay a finger against them,” the Kansas pastor said. “My hope is for their salvation, not for their death."
    This is why our work to elect a Republican to the presidency this November is so crucial!

    Meanwhile, a certain pastor Leatherman has also pondered the act of going out and murdering gays:


    Knapp is among a number of religious figures who have recently spoken out against homosexuality.


    North Carolina pastor Charles Worley delivered a sermon on May 13 that offered “a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers” by corralling them behind an electrified fence and feeding them until they die out.


    Maryland pastor Dennis Leatherman, responding to Worley’s comments on May 27, said that Worley was “dead wrong.”


    Leatherman also said that he had considered the idea of killing homosexuals, but ultimately decided against it.


    “There is a danger of reacting in the flesh, of responding not in a scriptural, spiritual way, but in a fleshly way. Kill them all. Right?” Leatherman said. “I will be very honest with you. My flesh kind of likes that idea.
    I'll be honest with you, too: I really like the idea. Just like pastor Leatherman, I enjoy my nightly fantasy of smashing a queer's testicles with the butt end of a shotgun before popping the barrel in his mouth and spattering his AIDS blood all over the ground.

    The idea is pleasing to any reasonable Christian, but it's a safer idea for us to simply elect officials who will handle the dirty work for us.
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    Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

    My flesh also likes that idea. It kind of sends a tingle up my spine. It's more in accordance with the Scriptures, though, for us to bring secular law more into harmony with Biblical Law and let the new Godly Republican Theocracy enforce it though. Hopefully the executions would be public events.
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    And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



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      Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

      Originally posted by Jedediah View Post
      My flesh also likes that idea. It kind of sends a tingle up my spine. It's more in accordance with the Scriptures, though, for us to bring secular law more into harmony with Biblical Law and let the new Godly Republican Theocracy enforce it though. Hopefully the executions would be public events.
      Homers like their boyfriends to be 'well hung'. Hopefully one day soon that can be arranged,

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      • #4
        Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

        I do not think we need to advocate the murder of all homosexuals, the Lord will take care of those that offend Him, whether they are disgusting faggots, liberals, or race traitors. It is not our place to question God's authority or His judgement, even if we believe we know what He wants us to do.

        God will judge those that displease him. He has all of eternity to torture those that reject His gifts. It is not our place to act as His earthly jurors, for He will mete out all justice as He sees fit when it pleases Him.
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          Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

          The interesting thing about Leviticus 20:13 is the ending.
          If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

          A lot of people take this to mean that they will be covered in blood but it refers to the practice of blood price or penalty for injury/death caused by a person and paid to the family of the deceased.

          "...their blood shall be upon them," means that there is no penalty at all for anyone who finds two gays fornicating who subsequently kills them. Anyone at all can be executioner under God's law without fear of any retribution. So if our future theocratic legislators do their homework justice should be swift and merciless (and accessible by all) for the anal perverts.
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          John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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            Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
            The interesting thing about Leviticus 20:13 is the ending.
            If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



            But it's an if-clause. And as soon as that if-condition is not met, the whole sentence does not apply.
            "IF man lie with mankind, AS he lieth with woman...."
            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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            • #7
              Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

              Originally posted by logo73 View Post
              But it's an if-clause. And as soon as that if-condition is not met, the whole sentence does not apply.
              "IF man lie with mankind, AS he lieth with woman...."
              Oh shut up!

              Seriously, we had a belly full of your nonsense about God didn't really mean gays doing it up the butt, being abominations and being killed last time round.

              If someone does something then this is the consequence. End of story.

              Wait a minute - you're so illiterate you think that "as" in this context means "at the same time as," aren't you.

              New International Version (©1984)
              "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
              New Living Translation (©2007)
              "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

              English Standard Version (©2001)
              If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

              New American Standard Bible (©1995)
              If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

              King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
              If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

              GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
              When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.

              King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
              If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

              American King James Version
              If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them.

              American Standard Version
              And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

              Douay-Rheims Bible
              If any one lie with a man se with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.

              Darby Bible Translation
              And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them.

              English Revised Version
              And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

              Webster's Bible Translation
              If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

              World English Bible
              "'If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

              Young's Literal Translation
              And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them.
              Looks like every single translator of the Bible got it wrong in the same way. Wow!

              Even the false Christians don't argue this point.
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              Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

              John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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                Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                Originally posted by logo73 View Post
                But it's an if-clause. And as soon as that if-condition is not met, the whole sentence does not apply.
                "IF man lie with mankind, AS he lieth with woman...."
                Doubletalk. It's as simple as God says. If you inseminate the rectum of another fag as you would inseminate the womb of a woman, both you and the sissy bottom queen are abominations deserving death.

                Stop twisting God's beautiful words.
                Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                  Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                  Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
                  Doubletalk. It's as simple as God says. If you inseminate the rectum of another fag as you would inseminate the womb of a woman, both you and the sissy bottom queen are abominations deserving death.

                  Stop twisting God's beautiful words.

                  That is exactly, what I mean. With the 'rectum' is not as with with womb of a woman. And that is really totally different. That is the meaning of the text.
                  Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                  abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                    Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                    Originally posted by logo73 View Post
                    That is exactly, what I mean. With the 'rectum' is not as with with womb of a woman. And that is really totally different. That is the meaning of the text.
                    No it isn't and everyone else except you who has ever read that text disagrees with you, even the butt bandits.
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                    Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                    John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                    Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
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                    God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
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                      Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                      Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                      No it isn't and everyone else except you who has ever read that text disagrees with you, even the butt bandits.

                      Just some extremists thought the Bible was condemning homosexuality. But it doesn't. Don't believe the lies of extremists! They just abuse your Bible for their hate crimes.
                      And remember, that homosexuals mutually agree (like heterosexuals) with their partners to marry. Rape only applies, if one does not agree or can not agree.
                      Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                      abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                        Originally posted by logo73 View Post
                        Just some extremists thought the Bible was condemning homosexuality. But it doesn't. Don't believe the lies of extremists! They just abuse your Bible for their hate crimes.
                        And remember, that homosexuals mutually agree (like heterosexuals) with their partners to marry. Rape only applies, if one does not agree or can not agree.
                        No! Everyone thinks it means that homos should be killed. The gays use it to hate on the Bible because God hates them so they moan like crazy about God being evil yadda yadda.

                        Homos can mutually agree all they like. Next you'll be saying it's OK for brothers and sisters to mutually agree to have sex and get married.

                        Leviticus 20:9-16
                        9For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

                        10And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. 11And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. 12And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. 13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. 14And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you. 15And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. 16And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

                        So why does God want all these people killed?
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                        Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                        John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                        Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                        The truth about volcanos
                        Sex and debauchery in public schools
                        Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                        God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                        Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                          Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                          Originally posted by logo73 View Post
                          Just some extremists thought the Bible was condemning homosexuality. But it doesn't. Don't believe the lies of extremists! They just abuse your Bible for their hate crimes.
                          And remember, that homosexuals mutually agree (like heterosexuals) with their partners to marry. Rape only applies, if one does not agree or can not agree.
                          What, precisely, is it condemning? The death penalty for what, exactly, then?
                          "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                          • #14
                            Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                            Originally posted by logo73 View Post
                            Just some extremists thought the Bible was condemning homosexuality. But it doesn't. Don't believe the lies of extremists! They just abuse your Bible for their hate crimes.
                            And remember, that homosexuals mutually agree (like heterosexuals) with their partners to marry. Rape only applies, if one does not agree or can not agree.
                            Hang on! Who is THEY? I'm perfectly capable of reading the Bible for myself, independently, and reaching the same conclusion as my brethren. That's the thing; we all read the Bible and came to the same conclusion about God's conditional love then came together in fellowship after the fact.

                            So take your patronising attitude and cram it.
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                            Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                            John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                            Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                            The truth about volcanos
                            Sex and debauchery in public schools
                            Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                            God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                            Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                              Re: Kansas Pastor Gets it Right: Government should Kill Gays

                              Originally posted by ExGay Alex View Post
                              What, precisely, is it condemning? The death penalty for what, exactly, then?
                              I think, it says, that gays/lesbians should not be like straights it's condemning a behavior to adapt to a straight performance, to a straight-influenced way of life.
                              It just says, that homosexuals are a very special phenomenon among humans and that they should not be engaged in straight-acting issues.
                              It's not so easy to describe such complicated issues in English. In principle, the text is even speaking in favor of gays, as it points out, that gays/lesbians are forming a group on their own and should not deny their inner feeling and so to say 'lie with man as straights are doing with their women'. It says, they should retain their difference as it makes the world more colorful. The authors believe in their God and thought, that their God loves variety and diversity. That is, why they wrote that and why they added such a punishment for anybody, who does not obey and who gives up the spirit of variety and of 'being different' from straights.
                              Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                              abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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