[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: saved by Grace

Who draws the line between habitual sinner and graceful sinner?

How would you know what side of the line you fall on?

A person who is not born from above does not grieve over his sin, and the person who does grieve over his sin is born from above. When the person falls under Church discipline the Elders need to determine whether his grief over his sin is genuine or not.


I hope this helps.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: saved by Grace

A person who is not born from above does not grieve over his sin, and the person who does grieve over his sin is born from above. When the person falls under Church discipline the Elders need to determine whether his grief over his sin is genuine or not.


I hope this helps.

Yes, thank you. I can see now the source of your angst and your attempted cover-up. What an exhausting existence you must lead, constantly feeling guilty, but constantly reassuring yourself that as much as you've offended God, He will simply pretend you didn't. That would wear down one's self esteem so quickly, I imagine.

And how very convenient for you. You feel guilty, therefore you must be Saved, even against all the evidence to the contrary. You alone have decided that your feelings are from above, and you find a church community that confirms your desires. There is no security in this. I don't know how you can sleep at night knowing that you could very well be projecting your deepest desires upon your mind, and simply convincing yourself that your feelings of forgiveness are the LORD's.

Might I suggest you accept your Godly Discipline as the Bride of Christ, and learn from it until your Salvation is secure? If you adopt the attitude of the submissive wife as explained here, if you embrace God's discipline, if you genuinely and sincerely repent, perhaps He will extend His offer of Salvation to you, too. Then your guilt will be gone and your struggles will be over and you won't have to play these word games with yourself. You too can be a loving Bride of Christ, a lovely adornment by His Side, not a thorn in it!

[James Hutchins]

Re: saved by Grace

A person who is not born from above does not grieve over his sin, and the person who does grieve over his sin is born from above. When the person falls under Church discipline the Elders need to determine whether his grief over his sin is genuine or not.


I hope this helps.

Well Willie, I barely know you and I do not feel you are genuine at all. If you came to my Plantation, I am not sure if I'd open the gate, preferring to speak to you through the chain links and security razor wire.
While you seem to be a nice enough guy, you lie to God with the same nonchalance I have with firing a lazy darkie. You seem to think each day is a new day and yesterdays transgressions are ancient history. The reaility is, today may be your last day and God does not accept deathbed repenting.