[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

If there were errors in the KJV, don't you believe God could snap His Fingers and correct them? Are you implying that is beyond the power of the Creator?

Sir Smyth, I think he just is out of his mind. Living in Canada with squirrels and bears, no contact with civilization

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

That's not what the Holy Word of God says.








That's not what the Holy Word of God says.



Has Heaven and earth passed, friend?

Please have a look at this article and let me know what you think. http://www.faithdefenders.com/from-t...llireview.html

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

What falshoods, it's a sin to bear false witness.


The Canon scrolls of 66 books are inspired and perfect, the copies of the KJV we have today have very minor errors in them, they are not perfect, thankfully we can go to the Hebrew and the Greek to correct the errors.


http://biblehub.com/

If there were errors in the KJV, don't you believe God could snap His Fingers and correct them? Are you implying that is beyond the power of the Creator?

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Bobbie, I have (nor do any sane people) have any idea what your are going on about.
God had the Bible written. Therefore, being His Word, it is perfect.
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

There is no talk of spacey men or area 51 goblins in the Bible, Rob. Only the irrefutable facts of creation to present day.

I have to say, you do not seem like a Christian. A True Christian™ simply knows God would not make up fantastic falsehoods.

What falshoods, it's a sin to bear false witness.


The Canon scrolls of 66 books are inspired and perfect, the copies of the KJV we have today have very minor errors in them, they are not perfect, thankfully we can go to the Hebrew and the Greek to correct the errors.

http://biblehub.com/

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

If that's what you think you're caught rather between a rock and a hard place. If by 100% perfection you mean 0% sin then Christians as described in The Bible by God—but not by you—are indeed perfect because Christians never sin.

I John 3
9-10b Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God
KJV .. context

All Christians sin, that's why they need a Savior, if Christians could be perfect then Christ died in vain. Christians are only sinless because of Christ, not of themselves, you see Christians sinning all the time, be honest, if you say no you have sinned.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

True but no human is able to be 100% perfect all the time.

That's not what the Holy Word of God says.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

The Old Covenant is obsolete, we are now in the New and better Covenant with better promises.

That's not what the Holy Word of God says.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

Has Heaven and earth passed, friend?

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Welcome Mr. William, May I call you Robert? Super!

Well Will, you seem to know very little of Christianity, not suprising living in a frozen wasteland like you do, having eskimoe squaws feeding you blubber and being drunk all the time.

So Bob, have you decided to give yourself to God? To lay prostate on His Lap of of Love and have Him guide to His place of Salvation?

Indeed, Brother James. This fellow seems to know so little that I am going to suggest something I thought I would never have to do.

I think that at the moment the KJV is beyond his capabilities. He is ignorant of even the most basic stories in the Bible, Moses, Noah, etc. Before he is ready to take on the True Bible, he would benefit from preliminary stidies. I suggest these:





Perhaps I'll concentrate on my prayers now. Jesus has advised me that it would be more profitable.

Proverbs 14:7
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

True but no human is able to be 100% perfect all the time, this is why we need a Savior, the Christian perfection is ONLY because of what Christ has done for them, they are only perfect because of Christ, God demands nothing less than 100% perfection and He will not wink at sin.

If that's what you think you're caught rather between a rock and a hard place. If by 100% perfection you mean 0% sin then Christians as described in The Bible by God—but not by you—are indeed perfect because Christians never sin.

I John 3
9-10b Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God
KJV .. context

[James Hutchins]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Amen, what do you think of a God who slaughters 42 children for calling a prophet baldy? I love Sovereign election.


2Ki 2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
2Ki 2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.


2Ki 2:25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

Well Billy, not being Him, knowing because of Him, everything exists, I do not deserve an explanation right now do I? He gave us the Bible and in the Bible, tells us all we need to know.
I do not question His reasons for creating eskimoes either. Everything God does is great and for a reason. To be honest, I'd prefer there not to be so many darkies, messicans and terrorists. But there are fields to be tended, lawns to be mowed and sand to be swept. Just like there are seals to be slaughtered by you eskimoes. Everything is the way it is for a reason. When God commands 42 children to be decimated, it is for a good reason. I know when I go to Heaven, God will gather all Christians around Him and regal us with His fantastic stories over time. I'm really looking forward to seeing Mr. Heston.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Amen, what do you think of a God who slaughters 42 children for calling a prophet baldy?

I think He's AWESOME!!!!!



Anyone who thinks otherwise is spitting right in the face of Jesus.

[Jim Farmer]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Amen, what do you think of a God who slaughters 42 children for calling a prophet baldy? I love Sovereign election.

I think of a Him as a God who must be feared and obeyed.
Proverbs 19:23 The fear of the LORD [tendeth] to life: and [he that hath it] shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.
Proverbs 14:27 The fear of the LORD [is] a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.
Deuteronomy 27:10 Thou shalt therefore obey the voice of the LORD thy God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Welcome Mr. William, May I call you Robert? Super!

Well Will, you seem to know very little of Christianity, not suprising living in a frozen wasteland like you do, having eskimoe squaws feeding you blubber and being drunk all the time.

So Bob, have you decided to give yourself to God? To lay prostate on His Lap of of Love and have Him guide to His place of Salvation?

Amen, what do you think of a God who slaughters 42 children for calling a prophet baldy? I love Sovereign election.


2Ki 2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
2Ki 2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.


2Ki 2:25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

ALL the sheep have been supernaturatally changed before as is written in 1 cor 2:14 and John 3:3, if the natural man considers the gospel to be foolishness why should he choose it?

Bobbie, I have (nor do any sane people) have any idea what your are going on about.
God had the Bible written. Therefore, being His Word, it is perfect.
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

There is no talk of spacey men or area 51 goblins in the Bible, Rob. Only the irrefutable facts of creation to present day.

I have to say, you do not seem like a Christian. A True Christian(tm) simply knows God would not make up fantastic falsehoods.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

No Billy, a True Christian ™ cannot lie. God controls a True Christians™ every move, comment and action. To claim a True Christian™ is a liar is akin to saying God does not exist. Utter insanity.

Psalm 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
Psalm 119:3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

ALL the sheep have been supernaturatally changed before as is written in 1 cor 2:14 and John 3:3, if the natural man considers the gospel to be foolishness why should he choose it?

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

No Billy, a True Christian ™ cannot lie. God controls a True Christians™ every move, comment and action. To claim a True Christian™ is a liar is akin to saying God does not exist. Utter insanity.

Psalm 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
Psalm 119:3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

LOL earth to James, examine yourself.