[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

Thanks for the welcome! My age is 35 so not so young anymore. My apolagies if that was a bit confusing.

Here is my theory, its a bit of a read though and you may want to grab a bible.

The Holy Spirit and the Revelation of John.
S.F. van der Meulen

I will explain to you John's Revelation.
[The Catholic Church is the servant of the AntiChrist - John tells us of what is to come]

Fine.

God is the example of the way that he gives us in all his deeds. I believe when God answers your prayer he treats you as an equal. Why else would God help?

You must see God as the Master and yourself as the servant. He tells you to jump, you ask "How high."

We are not and never can be "Equal to God." God can cure diseases, He can delve to the deepest part of the oceans, He can see deep into space, He can work other wonders.

How are we ever going to be like that?

Hope you like it.

Apart from the last bit, it's fine. Do you have an executive summary? I'm due in a meeting of the Pastors in an hour and a half.

If you could just have it on my laptop with a PowerPoint Presentation, I'd be obliged.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

Hello I'm Aleon though my actual name is Sebastian...

So you're not a legal Aleon?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

As I always read everything ever published on the Internet, I noticed you also posted this at http://www.fisheaters.com/forums/ind...opic=3469028.0.

Do you think Landover is some second rate Church that doesn't deserve the very best?

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

Wait a minute, he was using his little essay to ingratiate himself on a Catholic site!?


Sebastian, I'm glad I didn't Skype with you!

[Aleon1]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

You all are getting me wrong. I'm not a scientist and I'm not a catholic. But if you're unwilling to learn then there is not much to say. I believe I'm doing what God wants and that is to help people understand. Saying I'm not following the bible to the letter is untrue. Also I was asked to share it on the forum James. And to explain something about equality, Satan is a master of his slave because Satan is hierarchical. God is equals with humans however in cooperation with humans he is leader of all things because he has the most respect, trust and love. Just because God has infinite capacities in his ability doesn't mean God didn't make us in his own image. And it doesn't mean God doesn't respect Earth humans as equals. Nowhere in the bible does it say this. It say's God is head. That doesn't mean a hierarchical leader at all. Cooperation is equality, you can serve God inc ooperation too you know. You can't dispute it as it doesn't say so in the bible. Cooperating with a leader is also serving. And when you serve God you earn his respect to live with him forever.


But oh well I can see I am no longer welcome here. That's sad because I do my best every day for God. I believe nobody has the right to dictate who or what God is. I am giving you an explanation. I also see the Christian bible for what it is. You all may not like my point of view but you also didn't try to understand it. Salvation is done by treating each other as equals. Not bullying each other away.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

But if you're unwilling to learn

Oh my goodness, where is the nearest pastor with admin privileges on this site? I DEMAND that somebody issue this Papist and infraction for insulting the good members of this forum and implying that we are unwilling to learn!

I am VERY offended by this!

[Fred Hall]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

Hi Aleon,

Now don't get all excited and leave in a huff and puff... I'm still willing to hear you out on your theory.

Say though... you wouldn't happen to have a condensed version of it...or perhaps some cliffs notes on it or something? I see you ramble on and on in it (you sure you're not a female?), and it is a lot to read. I'm not sure I have the patience to sift through all that drivel writing. So is there any way you can shorten it?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

...And it doesn't mean God doesn't respect Earth humans as equals. Nowhere in the bible does it say this...

Then why are there so many places in the Bible that demand we fear God? Even more than say we should love God, and several times as many as say that we should respect God? Why would something that considers us its equal want us to fear it?

Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."

Even Jesus says it:

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

...I believe nobody has the right to dictate who or what God is...

So you think the Bible is wrong. Fine, that's your choice.

But, if the Bible is wrong, and we're all left to our own devices to figure out how to obey God's wishes (or even what they are) in order to earn Salvation, it then becomes a lottery: "Yes, you that spent 20 years hopping on one foot shouting 'boogity boogity' at passersby, you win! Come on into Heaven! Yeah, you the next guy, you also spent the same amount of time doing the exact same thing, unfortunately you were hopping on the wrong foot. The fact that you had corns on the other foot is no defence. Too bad, so sad, eternity of torment begins now <flushing sound as dude is sent screaming down to Hell>. Next!"

Why do you worship such an obvious sociopath?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

You all are getting me wrong. I'm not a scientist and I'm not a catholic. But if you're unwilling to learn then there is not much to say. I believe I'm doing what God wants and that is to help people understand. Saying I'm not following the bible to the letter is untrue. Also I was asked to share it on the forum James. And to explain something about equality, Satan is a master of his slave because Satan is hierarchical. God is equals with humans however in cooperation with humans he is leader of all things because he has the most respect, trust and love. Just because God has infinite capacities in his ability doesn't mean God didn't make us in his own image. And it doesn't mean God doesn't respect Earth humans as equals. Nowhere in the bible does it say this. It say's God is head. That doesn't mean a hierarchical leader at all. Cooperation is equality, you can serve God inc ooperation too you know. You can't dispute it as it doesn't say so in the bible. Cooperating with a leader is also serving. And when you serve God you earn his respect to live with him forever.


But oh well I can see I am no longer welcome here. That's sad because I do my best every day for God. I believe nobody has the right to dictate who or what God is. I am giving you an explanation. I also see the Christian bible for what it is. You all may not like my point of view but you also didn't try to understand it. Salvation is done by treating each other as equals. Not bullying each other away.

Leo, all True Christians(tm) ae welcome here. It hurts, it really hurts when you people make such cruel comments. However, Jesus tells us we are blessed by your persecution.
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.


God wants you to have a point of view, to use Free Will, to decide for yourself. You need to understand, either you are with God or you are against God, it is YOUR choice. As a True Christian(tm) I follow the Bible. I do not try to second guess it. I do not try to say 'what God really meant (Had God meant something different, He would of said so). I do not say 'Well, the Bible is old, we can ignore that, it no longer applies (If that were true, God would have a newer version of the KJV written).

The Bible was written so the simplest of minds could follow it as God wants to treat His flock fairly, giving all the chance to repent, follow His guidance EXACTLY and have a chance at the Brass ring to be provided the opportunity to stand in que for possible admitance to Heaven.

Note in the following. No where does it state "Follow the Bible or if you want, follow, the 'teachings of Leo', it makes not never mind to God"
Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Hello im Aleon.

you're unwilling to learn

It's unfortunate that you are too stupid to figure out how utterly hilarious that statement is.

Saying I'm not following the bible to the letter is untrue.

Salvation is done by treating each other as equals. Not bullying each other away.

If you ever bothered to read Leviticus 20:13 you would have noticed God want's us to kill gays. Which is the exact opposite of treating them as equals. So no, you are NOT, following the Bible to the letter. You are not even close. I am willing to bet you haven't killed a faggot in your entire life.

Enjoy Hell, you clearly deserve it.