[Des]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Where?

My dear Sister in Christ,


While our well intended newcomer seems to have been slacking on his Bible studies, at least his memory appears to be serving him well.


Exodus 23:29 I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.


From there we have our reference to the Beast of the Field, which were the Canaanites. And of course we all know of the curse of Canaan, son of Ham from Genesis 9:25.


The noble plantations of our beloved South were built in no small part upon those two bits of scripture. For the Negro is the descendant of Ham, a servant of servants to labor and toil for God's Chosen, the beast of the field, and so gainfully and fruitfully employed as such prior to the War of Northern Aggression.


And speaking of, today is the anniversary of the Battle of Shiloh Hill, where we sent thousands of those Yankee bastards to an early grave and the pits of hell. I hope all of you are attending my barbecue and cross illumination this evening. As I promised everyone last year, this year we will have a traditional smoked brisket instead of a Korean barbecue. Whose crazy idea was that, anyway?

[Daniel Boone]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Frankly son, you DO come across as a racist. Have you actually read what the Bible has to say about Jesus saving ALL that love Him? Including Negroes? Note that you made a mistake in making "negro's" possessive, among many other grammatical errors? If you would suggest that you are better than the Negro, you should at least demonstrate your white superiority in the English language. No?


The rest of your post is a solicited pity-party. No thanks.


1) 1 Timothy 2:4 -- “[God our Savior] will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” For me, this is the king of the heap. It clearly spells out God’s will. Other Bible versions say that God wants, desires and wishes that all people be saved and come to the truth. This verse completely supports universalism, no matter what word you use to describe God's will, so I don’t really have to explain it. It puts the burden of proof squarely on the shoulders of those who say Jesus will cast the defiant into hell for all eternity. They believe God wants to save all people, but for some reason is unwilling or unable to do it. I want to hear their reasons why the all-knowing, all-wise, all-loving, Almighty Creator of all mankind can’t get what He wants.

2) Jeremiah 32:27 -- “Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh, is there any thing too hard for Me?” I say, “No, nothing is too hard for You, Father. You are able to save all people and bring them to the truth.” Those who believe in eternal hell for unbelievers do have a list of things that are too hard for the Almighty to accomplish. I want to see my heavenly Father’s face when they present this list to Him.

3) John 5:22-23 -- “For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment unto the Son: 23That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honors not the Son honors not the Father which has sent Him.” I believe this scripture in underused by universalists. Scriptural universalists believe that there is a judgment, and that it will be horrible for those who go through it. But we also believe there is a very high, ultimate purpose for that judgment -- “That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father.” The word honor means to prize or revere. All people will eventually prize and revere Jesus, and His judgment will play a vital role in accomplishing this.

4) Matthew 18:11-14 -- “For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, does he not leave the ninety and nine, and go into the mountains, and seek that which is gone astray? 13And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoices more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.” We must understand the value of every soul to God. We are all former “little ones,” and God does not want us to ultimately perish. The problem is that we all grow up, sprout armpit hair, and rebel. Still, Jesus came to save what was lost -- all of us -- and He won’t fail.

5) Acts 3:20-21 -- “And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.” When Jesus comes all will be fully restored. This is no secret. God has talked about since the world began. Will you believe it?

6) 1 John 4:14 -- “And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.” This verse gives us a title for Jesus and His mission: Savior of the world. Will He or won’t He fulfill His title and mission? How could you or I bet against Him succeeding? He is and will be the Savior of the world -- everyone…all people…yes, really, all people. Now that’s good news…no, that’s great news!


May Christ redeem the hate in your heart.

Thank you for your reply;

Do you know what you just did ? You just quoted my quote about negro's being saved and can be adopted into heaven, then came short of calling me a racist for quoting what God wrote...then tried to educate me on my same quote by repeating what I just said. WOW ! Then called me a racist { like i'm offended } .

90 % or more of the black community think I'm a racist and they don't even know me, in fact they think your a racist regardless of how you take up for them. If you where to pass them by on the streets they would think to themselves, " there goes another racist white guy."

That don't even come close to cutting it with me sir. If quoting what God said in Jonha and other scriptures makes me a racist in your eyes than guess what, i'm as racist as God is and proud of it. What is the word racist to you other than " white guilt " for being in the white race that's the apple of Gods eyes.

To call me racist is to call God racist....do you think he cares. WORD IS TRUTH, TRUTH IS WORDS, that's all that matters.

[Daniel Boone]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Hi Daniel and to our Godly forum!



Where?

These are very uplifting verses indeed. They show that even the wicked people of Ninevah, the pagan Assyrians, were able to convert to the Only True Religion.

You do realize that these verses refer to the Assyrians, who were definitely not black, right?

Jonah 9
And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Where?

Where does He say that?

Exactly - there is a path to Heaven for everybody, even the wicked Assyrians. (Their descendants today are called Chaldean Christians, they track their lineage straight to Sargon the Great and they are very, very, very white).

I seem to have misplaced my brain temporarily. Could you point me to a specific verse that specifies what you just said?

Same as above.

I see your mouth moving but I don't see any Scriptural evidence.





Ehem, for the Assyrians. Which, incidentally, is the same way as for the people of all colors, nationalities, and languages.

John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Thank you for your reply;

Here is the answers to your question, happy learning.


http://fathersmanifesto.net/beast.htm

The definition of ADAM; HEBREW = A MAN, ruddy, rosy, to show blood in the face, to blush...in other words white people. is God a racist now again ?

[Daniel Boone]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Thank you for your reply;

Here is the answers to your question, happy learning.


http://fathersmanifesto.net/beast.htm

The definition of ADAM; HEBREW = A MAN, ruddy, rosy, to show blood in the face, to blush...in other words white people. is God a racist now again ?

I FIXED THE LINK ABOVE

[Daniel Boone]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Hi Daniel and to our Godly forum!



Where?

These are very uplifting verses indeed. They show that even the wicked people of Ninevah, the pagan Assyrians, were able to convert to the Only True Religion.

You do realize that these verses refer to the Assyrians, who were definitely not black, right?

Jonah 9
And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Where?

Where does He say that?

Exactly - there is a path to Heaven for everybody, even the wicked Assyrians. (Their descendants today are called Chaldean Christians, they track their lineage straight to Sargon the Great and they are very, very, very white).

I seem to have misplaced my brain temporarily. Could you point me to a specific verse that specifies what you just said?

Same as above.

I see your mouth moving but I don't see any Scriptural evidence.





Ehem, for the Assyrians. Which, incidentally, is the same way as for the people of all colors, nationalities, and languages.

John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Thank you for your reply;

Here are your answers, and God Bless

http://fathersmanifesto.net/beast.htm

[Basilissa]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Thank you for your reply;

Here is the answers to your question, happy learning.


http://fathersmanifesto.net/beast.htm

The definition of ADAM; HEBREW = A MAN, ruddy, rosy, to show blood in the face, to blush...in other words white people. is God a racist now again ?

So just to clarify:

You believe that the Assyrian civilization (which capital was Ninevah mentioned in the verses quoted in my post above) was created by black people?



Really?!

To me, Assurbanipal (he was one of the Assyrian kings) looks much more Caucasoid than Negroid or Mongoloid. I mean, just look at that straight forehead and beautiful nose! Not to mention that his hair was beautifully wavy in a perfect Caucasoid way:



I really dig these earrings, btw. I want a pair like that. 18 K yellow gold dipped in 22 or 24 K. But, I can't (1 Tim 2:9).

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

My good friend Basilissa that is a Black man in that picture. No arab or white man has kinky naps like that man has. He is a Black king. The Black man once ruled the world and we will again. But you can not have those earrings because those are the earrings of Black people and that would be cultural appropriation.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Thank you for your reply;

Do you know what you just did ? You just quoted my quote about negro's being saved and can be adopted into heaven, then came short of calling me a racist for quoting what God wrote...then tried to educate me on my same quote by repeating what I just said. WOW ! Then called me a racist { like i'm offended } .

You're confused, dear. Mr. Porter didn't stop short of calling you a racist, he confronted you on your interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. You see, here at Landover Baptist Church, we trust the LORD to mean what He says and say what He means. That is to say dear, we do not feel the need to embellish God's Holy Word with any fallible interpretations like you have been apparently conditioned to do. What rewards await the person of your community when they conform to this 19th century version of cultural superiority? Are they lauded by the community at large? Are those who offer new "insight" rewarded with higher positions in the community? Perhaps feeling superior to those not in the ingroup is its own reward. It's rather tribal thinking you promote, ironically.

But how very interesting your little band of men must be. You see, as a mother of many, I'm quite familiar with the cognitive and social growth of boys into men. I have seen this kind of insecurity manifest itself in many ways, but none so interesting as the overcompensating kind you display. It's a kind of Napoleon Complex I suspect. Some men perceive themselves to be small yet deserving of great things. I think that's a shame. Jesus doesn't see you as small or great, He sees you as a means to His Glory. When you look at it from Jesus' point of view, which we like to do here, it doesn't matter if you have a privileged place in society or not. Society is but a drop in the bucket compared to eternity. And your whining about not being the top dog doesn't come across as anything but pathetic. I would encourage you to read the Scriptures from Jesus' point of view and not your own. That, I believe, is more in line with Mr. Porter's point.

[Basilissa]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

My good friend Basilissa that is a Black man in that picture. No arab or white man has kinky naps like that man has. He is a Black king. The Black man once ruled the world and we will again. But you can not have those earrings because those are the earrings of Black people and that would be cultural appropriation.

Sweet, innocent Trevor, you are so confused. The Assyrian king is not napping in this low relief. He is actually hunting lions. Here is the entire relief:

Now, if he was napping all the time, I'd be suspicious as well. But since he was obviously a brave ultra macho man, he could not have a drop of black blood in his veins, you see. As great Carl Linnaeus said, Africans are slow - clearly too slow to participate in such a dangerous endeavor:

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Why do you think that Black man is the King of Assyria? I think that must be Snoop Dog who is now Snoop Lion and he is driving through Beverly Hills fending off white men who are depicted as wild beasts.

[Basilissa]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Why do you think that Black man is the King of Assyria? I think that must be Snoop Dog who is now Snoop Lion and he is driving through Beverly Hills fending off white men who are depicted as wild beasts.

You are contradicting yourself, dear, and you are not making any sense at al. So now you're saying that king Assurbanipal is not napping but snooping on this relief from the Assyrian palace at Ninevah?

Have you been smoking too much, again?

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

You are contradicting yourself, dear, and you are not making any sense at al. So now you're saying that king Assurbanipal is not napping but snooping on this relief from the Assyrian palace at Ninevah?

Have you been smoking too much, again?

Now I am uncertain how this conversation has taken this turn. What I am saying is that the man in your picture is a Black man. If he was a king then he was a Black King and there have been many Black kings all over the world. But I think it might be a picture of Snoop Dog who is now Snoop Lion and his posse.

[Basilissa]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

Have you been smoking too much, again?

Now I am uncertain how this conversation has taken this turn. What I am saying is that the man in your picture is a Black man. If he was a king then he was a Black King and there have been many Black kings all over the world. But I think it might be a picture of Snoop Dog who is now Snoop Lion and his posse.

I'll take it as a "yes."

[Des]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

To me, Assurbanipal (he was one of the Assyrian kings) looks much more Caucasoid than Negroid or Mongoloid. I mean, just look at that straight forehead and beautiful nose!

That sure doesn't look like a monkey nose to me. Negroid noses always look like they were punched by Mike Tyson, and perhaps they were.


Be that as it may, the distinct lack of a protruding forehead, jutting brow, flat nose the size of a softball, and lips like an overlaping pair of deflated tires suggests a more Caucasoid Assurbanipal.

[Basilissa]

Re: Do negroes go to heaven?

That sure doesn't look like a monkey nose to me. Negroid noses always look like they were punched by Mike Tyson, and perhaps they were.


Be that as it may, the distinct lack of a protruding forehead, jutting brow, flat nose the size of a softball, and lips like an overlaping pair of deflated tires suggests a more Caucasoid Assurbanipal.

Thank you, Brother, for reassuring me that Jonah was not wasting his time by going to visit a bunch of Africans!