[James Hutchins]

Re: Greetings

James,


I did not attempt to admonish you, I did reproof you, and still am reproofing you, and consider that I have been call a whore and a gay, a fool it not that bad. I mean truthfully, I have had enemies that were nicer them you lot, and if you are the example of true Christians, then I am pride to not be apart of you all, I will continue to follow the KJV Bible, and I will let you all continue to Christian your way there life, because frankly there are more profitable conversation out there, and I will pray that no one else falls under this site's regime. Veiled insults are still insults, and you will have to give an account of these actions, boy, that's going to be a rough day in eternity for you my friend.

May God have mercy on your souls, because I highly doubt I will be seeing any of you in heaven.

Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.


Sincerely,
Talon

Friend, I never called you a Whore or a Gay. If that is how you want to, live your life, far be it from me to make a comment about it. You will have to take up your incredibly regrettable life choices with God. As you know, He is the one in charge of your destiny.
I pity you for not being honest with God and I am always amazed at you false Christians that cherry pick the Bible or try to interpret His Word with comments like 'well, what God really meant was...'. God had the Bible written so the simplest of minds could comprehend it with no assistance. To think for one minute that any mere person knows what is on Gods mind better than God Himself is truly deluded.

Consider this. You've come on a Christian website and nearly everyone you meet in a loving and friendly manner, has tried to lead you away from a short live of Godless false Christian misery and in to the light of his Thick Love©. Onl;y you seem to think everyone else is wrong, even some of the highest regarded Pastors on Earth.

You make baby Jesus weep.

Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

Leviticus 24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Leviticus 24:15 And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

Deuteronomy 7:3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
Deuteronomy 7:4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Deuteronomy 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Deuteronomy 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
Deuteronomy 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
Deuteronomy 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Deuteronomy 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

[Farrier88]

Re: Greetings

Basilissa,


If the idiotic and completely unscriptural messages you and your member have sent are not proof enough, that I have to describe in more detail, then why bother, you people are so blind, and filled with pride, you guys actually think your my betters, lol, no wonder people think Christian these days are crazy, this whole site proves that. As to your comment of being afraid of being banned, I am not surprised that is all you took from my opening statement, fear, really, you think I am afraid of being banned from a bunch online hostile and venomous folks such as yourselves, please.

The very freedom you use to demonstrate your lack of faith and understanding of KJV bible, my brothers and sisters in arm fought for, if this is the freedom that Soldiers are dying to protect, boy, what a waste. All I have left to say is, where are my 1000 infraction points??, I mean come on Mary, 2 points for my last infraction, man that was worth more like 120 infraction points, you are really short changing me here.

[Farrier88]

Re: Greetings

James,


your right you did not call me a whore or gay, you did call me a retard though, but Mary did call me a whore and gay, I am neither of these, and if baby Jesus is weeping, then we definitely are not following the same Jesus Christ, because the Christ I follow is not a child anymore.

[Basilissa]

Re: Greetings

Basilissa,

If the idiotic and completely unscriptural messages you and your member have sent are not proof enough, that I have to describe in more detail, then why bother, you people are so blind, and filled with pride, you guys actually think your my betters, lol, no wonder people think Christian these days are crazy, this whole site proves that.

I haven't really seen you bother to provide Scriptural support to your opinions - and as I stated before, I'm really not interested in your opinions. Nevetheless, I feel blessed by your persecution, and I rejoice because of it.

Matthew 5:10-12
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

As to your comment of being afraid of being banned, I am not surprised that is all you took from my opening statement,

I did not feel like responding to the same copy-pasta I already addressed in another thread. I did consider remembering you that you are a man and hence according to your own opinion ("no one man has the true authority to make that judgement."), you have no true authority to determine the status of your Salvation. I did let it slide, seeing how you weaseled your way out of it ("only the person who accepts Christ and Jesus Christ will know if you are actually saved, no third party can make that judgement") which was an interesting opinion, but - as usual - devoid of actual Scriptural proof for it. I, on the other hand, provided you with ample Scripture showing that not everyone who calls themselves a Christian and believes to be Saved is, in fact, Saved. You must have missed that because you did not reply to it.

I'm not judging, but my personal conclusion is that you are probably happier living in bliss of ignorance, for now anyway - but you might be mighty surprised when the Judgment Day comes!

hostile and venomous folks such as yourselves,

Please do give me specific example, when I acted in a hostile and venomous way towards you. I always strive to be better.

The very freedom you use to demonstrate your lack of faith and understanding of KJV bible,

So far you have not substantiated that claim. I'll wait.

my brothers and sisters in arm fought for, if this is the freedom that Soldiers are dying to protect, boy, what a waste.

I am not entirely sure what do you mean by that. Last I checked, the First Amendment stated freedom of religion - that is, any religion, not necessarily tied to the KJV (it could be Koran, Kalevala, Bhagvad Gita or even the mad ramblings of Bahaullah). Which, I totally agree, is quite unfortunate - our Founding Fathers should have not separate the church from the state, but rather establish Christianity as the state religion.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Greetings

James,


your right you did not call me a whore or gay, you did call me a retard though, but Mary did call me a whore and gay, I am neither of these, and if baby Jesus is weeping, then we definitely are not following the same Jesus Christ, because the Christ I follow is not a child anymore.

I never called you a retard. I take great offense to have anything stuck in my mouth I did not ask for. All I did was try to give simple examples. If the simple way of life is not your 'thing' (as the kids say) then perhaps Christianity is not for you either. I know a great many people that think they are Christians but when it comes down to it, they are not and they are really there for the after service brownies.
Jesus is God is the Holy Ghost is the baby that gives life to all. He is a massive man with hair of spun gold and eyes of midnight blue with a stare that can penetrate the coldest of hearts. There is only one God and those (it seems you may be one of the latter) who think there is more than one is no Christian.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Greetings

I'm not attacking you.


Ok, look. You need to appreciate that we get a ton of atheists here. Look how long some of us have been members of this Holy forum, the attacks are relentless. So excuse the slightly abrasive greeting.

Trust me, we DO want to fellowship with you. Give us a chance.

Perhaps you can share a favorite verse with us.

One of the most encouraging verses for me is about Jesus and how He is no longer here. People often claim the opposite, for example in this "hymn"

CLICK GRAPHIC TO PLAY YOUTUBE . .

The Bible is our only source for the life of Jesus. What did Jesus say? He said that He was leaving the world.

JOHN 16 .KJV . whole passage
5a [Jesus speaking] But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
6a But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
7a Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
7b For if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you;
7c But if I depart, I will send him unto you..
28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
29 His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb.

Now, as we read this, Jesus is in Heaven. Not on Earth. He said so and has been seen in Heaven. Here are references for those sightings:

Acts 7:55-56
Luke 24:51
Mark 16:19
Acts 1:9

Jesus was explicit that, if He did not leave the Earth, there would be no Holy Spirit to build The Church, sometimes called "The Paraclete" but whatever you call the guiding principle through which The Church has been built Jesus is very clear that unless He leaves the world Himself this Spirit will not come. He continues:

7c But if I depart, I will send him unto you.
80 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
90 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

So there are two elements here. First, that this ministry is now present in the world as declared and claimed by The Church and by individual Christians in their lives. For that to happen, as explained in The Bible, it was necessary for Jesus to leave. Therefore He has left.

Second (although first chronologically) we have the words of Jesus announcing that He was departing. Sometimes people say that these are metaphorical statements or that Jesus was using an allegory to illustrate a point and of course Jesus did use teaching aids of that type. In this case however we have the unusual statement that His words are to be taken literally “but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly” and “Lo, now speakest thou plainly”

Thus we can be absolutely certain that Jesus is NOT in the world today. Why do The Salvation Army have a hymn up there claiming the opposite of what God, Jesus and The Bible have spelled out so plainly?

This is a question that had always puzzled me since, as a child, I was encouraged to read John's Gospel and did read it and noticed immediately that what I read contradicted what I was taught in Sunday School. Why? Had the people encouraging me to read The Gospel not read it themselves? Or were they just making stuff up to suit their fancy and ignoring everything that proved their claims to be false? The solution is obvious. Only by accepting The Word of God can we come to any knowledge of The Truth and where people make claims contradicting God those people are practising deception.

Of course if they never claimed to be preaching the Gospel in the first place, that would be different. A priest of Huitzilopochtli for instance would not have claimed to be preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ and so if his words contradicted Jesus that would almost be expected. But we are not talking Huitzilopochtli, are we. No. So we can be certain that when clergymen or Salvation Army euphonium players announce stuff contradicting what JESUS HIMSELF SAID that either they don't know what He said or they do know but prefer to make up something else and ignore reality. The consequences of that are severe. By ignoring Jesus one necessarily ignores the message of Redemption and denies the sacrifice He made. After all, if Jesus got it wrong about leaving the world maybe He got it wrong about the Crucifixion too. So it is important to read The Bible. It is the only source we have for Jesus and what He taught and we need to understand what it says.

And The Bible is very clear.

The alternative is HELL FOREVER