Re: Hello you seem a bit extreme but im open to dialogue if you provide evidence
Of course - Jesus loves those who love Him back. Everyone else is destined to Hell (John 3:18). Now, when you think about it, that is a whole bunch of people are going to Hell. 2/3 of humanity today are not Christians. That means that 2/3 of people living today are automatically destined to Hell, it really doesn't matter if they live their lives helping others. They don't love Jesus so Jesus doesn't love them, either. Of course in the past, these percentages were even higher.
Now, regarding the 1/3 of humanity belonging to different Christian denominations, there are plenty of people who profess to be Christians but don't follow Jesus' teachings. That means they are going to Hell, too. So, maybe 5% of people alive today are going to Heaven. Maybe.
Dear, you are giving me a headache. Don't you see a contradiction in what you have just said - see the highlighted parts?
You need to decide, which one is it:
1) Salvation is earned, because Jesus will save those who truly repent
or
2) Salvation os a gift, so Jesus will decide whom to save, and whether we repent or not doesn't really matter, because we cannot earn it through repentance.
You cannot eat your cake and have it too. So please decide, which is your opinion: is Jesus somehow obligated to save those who repent, or is Salvation a gift that is gifted and not earned?
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Now, regarding the 1/3 of humanity belonging to different Christian denominations, there are plenty of people who profess to be Christians but don't follow Jesus' teachings. That means they are going to Hell, too. So, maybe 5% of people alive today are going to Heaven. Maybe.
We are sinners and we need Jesus to save us from our sins. If we ask Him with a true repentant heart, He will! It’s so simple, please don’t complicate it.
I feel like you and a lot of people on this forum think you can earn your salvation. The Bible makes it very clear that we CANNOT! Salvation is a gift.
I feel like you and a lot of people on this forum think you can earn your salvation. The Bible makes it very clear that we CANNOT! Salvation is a gift.
You need to decide, which one is it:
1) Salvation is earned, because Jesus will save those who truly repent
or
2) Salvation os a gift, so Jesus will decide whom to save, and whether we repent or not doesn't really matter, because we cannot earn it through repentance.
You cannot eat your cake and have it too. So please decide, which is your opinion: is Jesus somehow obligated to save those who repent, or is Salvation a gift that is gifted and not earned?
and definitely would never pervert anything, much less God's Holy Word! How dare *you*!
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