[Veiled Beast a.k.a. Bernie]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Discussing the word of the Lord, which is why this forum was created.

And no, I will not enlighten you. You see, that is part of the problem. God has written a book, and instead of actually read it, you want people to teach it to you.

Why should you read a book allegedly written by a God who chose a tribe of goat herders 3000 years ago?

Well, for us, is the only true God, so reading it is unavoidable. For you, it really does not get you interested reading the most influential book for every culture in the western hemisphere EVER?

The Bible has had more impact that anything, not only another book. It has, and still is, guided morally, legally and socially all our societies. If you keep your atheism after reading it, at least you will know the origins of much of the rules that you are forced to follow by the secular world, that are still rooted in religion.

No, it is not a waste of time. Reading a Satanist book is. Zero influence and impact, only a toy for people pretending to oppose something they don't know. Why should we be shocked by a Satanist in our forum, after we had Obama as Satan's tool in the White House for eight long years? And we have survived that.

By the way, Satan gets to keep most of the souls created by God, because of a rule created by God as He tell us in the Bible. God creates evil, so it is not surprising he has created Satanism as well.

Next time you want to shock us, think a little bit more, Bernie. We have read that a brother had to rape his sister in law after his brother died, ordered by God and punished for not doing so, and we are ok with it. We could kill our children if God told us so and that wasn't against the law (because God also tells us to abide the law) We could kill an enemy population including pregnant women, children and old people at God's orders. We could kill a person for being gay, and will not matter that God himself created gay and then forbade being gay. God tell us to abide the law, so we refrain from doing all the other things the Bible says, but a Biblical government is possible. Hey, would you had bet on a Trump presidency 10 years ago? What if the Bible becomes the rule? How many people in your country, village or whatever will agree with that? It is more than you think. Biblical law is stricter than the Sharia, and we and tons of groups like us fight for it every day.

I will be praying for Biblical law tonight. You are invited to join us.

So then, precise conversations about god's word. There you go.

And by "god", you mean a couple of (probably high as balls) confused earthly dudes, I assume. I know the general plotline, I reckon that qualifies. Ain't that interesting, I have to admit. If "god" really wrote it, he should perhaps release a modern version, as this one seems highly archaic on several levels, which will eventually mean bad business. Until then, I'll stick with other, more contemporary influential fantasy titles such as "The Lord of the Rings", which has a slightly higher score on goodreads.com, so I can only recommend.

And what makes you think I intend to shock, my friend? I admit, scaring god-fearing, bible-thumping Christians with spooky occult symbolism and ungodly, satanic fashion choices can be quite entertaining, but only for so long.

Perhaps I am just another lost sheep that needs to find its way back to the others, here because something deep inside told it to seek out the true path.

Probably not, though.

If god told you that, it would make him a massive hypocrite. And hypocrisy is a human trait. After all, god does not do mistakes, no?
Thus, shouldn't a true biblical society be peaceful? After all, murder is completely against what the Bible directs, and let's not forget: "Honor men of all sorts", 1 Peter 2:17

And well, many would describe Trump as more "demonic" than anything. He certainly isn't abiding god's word that well at all. And no, you are completely right, I did underestimate the extent of USA's stupidity those years ago.

[Veiled Beast a.k.a. Bernie]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

I have thought that the Travelling Freak Show has been due for a comeback for a few years now.

I suspect that it fell into decline as there was no "moral aspect" to it - simply people gawking and going away laughing nervously.

I was thinking of various exhibits that gave the ungodly and weak of faith a chance to see what denying The Lord does for a person.

I have a few phone calls to make before I get back to you, so give me a while and think of having a steady and useful job.
For the time being, I'd be obliged if you made no attempts to change, other than to make yourself worse - that is in the sense of "more abominable."

And I assume your title is meant in a sarcastic context, then. In that case, make sure to add "originality" to your list of adjectives.


What it does for me is quite enjoyable, though. But I understand having a bit more free-time to pursue personal interests and actually developing and advancing mentally and as a species isn't really your kind of thing. To each their own.


And I appreciate your concern, but as long as I keep earning this much with what I do, I would be a fool to do anything else. Unless, I don't know, someone offered me a job as a forensic pathologist. That would be quite fun.
But also, screw capitalism.

[Basilissa]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

And by "god", you mean a couple of (probably high as balls) confused earthly dudes, I assume.

No.

I know the general plotline, I reckon that qualifies. Ain't that interesting, I have to admit. If "god" really wrote it, he should perhaps release a modern version, as this one seems highly archaic on several levels, which will eventually mean bad business. Until then, I'll stick with other, more contemporary influential fantasy titles such as "The Lord of the Rings",

And where do you think Tolkien got a lot of his ideas?

Just think about it:

1) The fight between the Good and Evil,
2) Evil related to what Christianity sees as sins,
3) Good=creation, evil=destruction,
4) Longing for return of the king (= Second Coming of Christ),
5) Main heroes of the story suffering and sacrificing themselves for the greater good,
6) Rejection of relativism - there's right and wrong and nothing in between.

Now, unfortunately, Tolkien was a devout Catholic, so there is some Catholic propaganda woven into it as well.

And what makes you think I intend to shock, my friend?

Maybe your introduction?

If god told you that, it would make him a massive hypocrite.

So what? God is God, we lowly humans have no right to judge Him.

And hypocrisy is a human trait. After all, god does not do mistakes, no?

Mistakes, no. Nonetheless, He is vengeful and merciless and jealous and sometimes outright petty. It's His right. He created the world, including both good and evil (Isaiah 45:7), so He has the right to create mayhem whenever and wherever He wants.

Thus, shouldn't a true biblical society be peaceful?

Yeah, but the Bible tells us that we have to kill all the infidels first. Then we can have peace.

[handmaiden]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Dear Sister Basilissa--your response above was so respectful and on-point. I am doubly impressed because the OP is what many of the young people call a "basic b!tch" in terms of his/her/its weak and unoriginal attempt to troll us.

The Lord has blessed you with more patience and strength of purpose than I--my response to the little attention-wh*re was a yawn followed by a long nap.


Bless you Sister, for taking up Christ's banner!

[Veiled Beast a.k.a. Bernie]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

No.

And where do you think Tolkien got a lot of his ideas?

Just think about it:

1) The fight between the Good and Evil,
2) Evil related to what Christianity sees as sins,
3) Good=creation, evil=destruction,
4) Longing for return of the king (= Second Coming of Christ),
5) Main heroes of the story suffering and sacrificing themselves for the greater good,
6) Rejection of relativism - there's right and wrong and nothing in between.

Now, unfortunately, Tolkien was a devout Catholic, so there is some Catholic propaganda woven into it as well.

Maybe your introduction?

So what? God is God, we lowly humans have no right to judge Him.

Mistakes, no. Nonetheless, He is vengeful and merciless and jealous and sometimes outright petty. It's His right. He created the world, including both good and evil (Isaiah 45:7), so He has the right to create mayhem whenever and wherever He wants.

Yeah, but the Bible tells us that we have to kill all the infidels first. Then we can have peace.

Still a better read than the crusty old door-stopper you devout your existence to. Though you gotta admit, those basic aspects of the story are extremely common and surely, the Christians were not the first ones coming up with it. So let's not reach too deep here, yes? Anything can be a biblical allegory if you're looking at it through christ-coloured glasses.


If my introduction truly shocks you, you might want to take a step outside for a bit. I'm not even trying, really. Do you also think clowns and Halloween are scary?
Though I'm glad you (assumingly) had the courage to read some of Tolkien's works, at least. Very brave considering many Christians used to hate and attempt to ban it due to the spooky sorcery and demonic creatures or whatever. If so, your taste in literature is at least salvageable.


And here I thought negative mayhem/chaos was a staple trait of the Devil? So the bible is a big pick-and-choose of what you abide and what you ignore, then? What happened to "Thou shalt not kill" and "Respect all men"?


Almost sounds like your dear Lord™ isn't that sure of what he really wants.

[Veiled Beast a.k.a. Bernie]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Dear Sister Basilissa--your response above was so respectful and on-point. I am doubly impressed because the OP is what many of the young people call a "basic b!tch" in terms of his/her/its weak and unoriginal attempt to troll us.

The Lord has blessed you with more patience and strength of purpose than I--my response to the little attention-wh*re was a yawn followed by a long nap.


Bless you Sister, for taking up Christ's banner!

Indeed, you could definitely learn from Sister Basilissa.


And I assume you must be one of those young people you mentioned, then? Which would partially explain your lack of creativity. Living in a glass house is not a very favourable thing to do.


How come my simple introduction makes you think I want to troll, or gain attention? I understand unsaved, faithless trash like me is welcome here, so I would expect some basic hospitality. Surely I can't be the first and only one like me you have met. So, instead of being vulgar and rude, let us come together and discuss the word of God™, as intended.


So, I will start and forgive you your vulgarity, for forgiveness is an important Christian value.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

And here I thought negative mayhem/chaos was a staple trait of the Devil? So the bible is a big pick-and-choose of what you abide and what you ignore, then? What happened to "Thou shalt not kill" and "Respect all men"?


Almost sounds like your dear Lord™ isn't that sure of what he really wants.

Oh, so you haven't read the Bible. I mean, it is very basic knowledge that Christian morals are "Thou shalt not kill unless God commands you to" and "Respect all men except those who God does not want you to respect". And so on and so forth, I guess you get the idea.


Peaceful, the people of God? You are of the ones who think Jesus was a sort of hippie communist giving to the poor. That happens when you do not actually read the Bible.


And God is sure about what He wants: complete and total obedience. Praise Him all day long, do what He commands, and you are ok. Even if what He commands is against logic, morals or ethics. (disclaimer: BUT NO IF IT'S AGAINST THE LAW)

[BibleReader2231]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Greetings Bernie,

A cautious welcome to you. I always found that Jesus is someone you should fear and respect. This has been taught at an early age in schools here in the south. I would urge you to find Jesus as soon as possible. John 3:16 says we are rewarded for being faithful Christians after we die. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The alternative is what you’re heading towards unless you are making drastic changes to reverse your path, especially as a transgender according to Deuteronomy 22:5. The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God. I will be praying that you peruse the forums and read The Bible so that you can be saved some day. The wonderful people I talk to at Landover Baptist Church inspire me every day to be a better Christian and I am sure the same effect may be had to you if you open your heart to Jesus.

[handmaiden]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

If my introduction truly shocks you,. . .

No, it didn't.

. . . I'm not even trying, really.

No, you really aren't.

So the bible is a big pick-and-choose of what you abide and what you ignore, then?

Now them's fightin'words, boy. Pardon my folksy parlance, but one thing that we here at Landover Baptist do NOT support is cherry-picking the Bible. Both our leadership and rank and file members have written reems of posts pointing out the need to read and obey the whole Bible. In fact, people actually despise us for our uncompromising stand on the subject.

Almost sounds like your dear Lord™ isn't that sure of what he really wants.

Reading the Bible has given me some very clear insights as to what The Lord wants. . .Still haven't figured out what you are looking for here.

Indeed, you could definitely learn from Sister Basilissa.

Of course, I could. She is an extraordinary woman of God.

And I assume you must be one of those young people you mentioned, then?

Flattery will get you nowhere, young man.

Which would partially explain your lack of creativity.

The Lord God is the only creator. My posts here are an attempt to reflect His Great Glory back onto Him.

Living in a glass house is not a very favourable thing to do.

Agreed. It would be sinful for me to live with transparent walls that would allow others to view me naked. Also, are you British? What's with the unneeded "u" in "favourable"?

How come my simple introduction makes you think I want to troll, or gain attention?

Because it was kind of obvious.

I understand unsaved, faithless trash like me is welcome here,

Not really, the words "Unsaved Unwelcomed" are right there at the top of the screen. . .

Surely I can't be the first and only one like me you have met.

No, you are not. Which is why I find you so tiresome.

So, instead of being vulgar and rude, let us come together and discuss the word of God™, as intended.

By all means, post some Bible verses and the good folk at LBC will explain how you are misinterpreting them.

So, I will start and forgive you your vulgarity, for forgiveness is an important Christian value.

As to the suggestion that I am vulgar, my response this time is not but rather,

[James Hutchins]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Hi Bernie, how are the stents? You can thank God for them.

[Basilissa]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Still a better read than the crusty old door-stopper you devout your existence to.

Do not judge book by its covers, dear. How can you proclaim with any degree of certainty that Tolkien is better than the Bible, if you haven't read the latter?

While I admit that parts of the Bible are a bit dry (especially the genealogies), there are a lot of parts with some great action. Battles (just don't think too much about iron chariots, Judges 1:19), sieges (Joshua 6), slavery (including captive sex slaves, Deuteronomy 21:10-17), genocide (Exodus 17:14-15), rape (including rape of own sister, 2 Samuel 13), human sacrifice (Judges 11:30-31, 34, 39-40), crushing babies' heads into rocks (Psalm 137:9), pimping own wife/sister out to the Pharaoh (Genesis 12:11-16), a few role model prostitutes (such as Rahab, Joshua 6:17), and much, much more! Bible is much more interesting, gory, and scandalous than you seem to believe!

Though you gotta admit, those basic aspects of the story are extremely common and surely, the Christians were not the first ones coming up with it. So let's not reach too deep here, yes? Anything can be a biblical allegory if you're looking at it through christ-coloured glasses.

Well, if you ever are ready to actually discuss Manicheism (or any earlier Persian religion), Egyptian religion, Mesopotamian religion, or any other belief system that pre-stole Christian beliefs (rather than just hypothesize about it), I'll be here all week.

Do you also think clowns and Halloween are scary?

Not scary, just dumb.

And here I thought negative mayhem/chaos was a staple trait of the Devil?

Put your thinking cap on for a minute and answer me this: Who created the devil?

So the bible is a big pick-and-choose of what you abide and what you ignore, then? What happened to "Thou shalt not kill" and "Respect all men"?

Those apply within the community. Outside of the community, God approves of genocide.

Deuteronomy 7:2-6
2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.
6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Almost sounds like your dear Lord™ isn't that sure of what he really wants.

He wants absolute submission without questioning His Logic. He hates rational thinking.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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If my introduction truly shocks you, you might want to take a step outside for a bit. I'm not even trying, really.

It's amazing after so many years on the Internet that we plain folks in the Landover community can still be shocked, shocked I tell you at the blasphemy of the wicked. No-one has said anything as shocking to us on these sacred forums until you arrived. You are truly devastaing to our forum - and yet - you are not even trying, really. I surely would not wish to provoke such a person to even try really. God help us!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

I understand unsaved, faithless trash like me is welcome here

Do you think he can read?


. . .

[jj17za1]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Bernie You Make Me Want To Vomit!Your More Unsaved Trash Then I am.
At Least I Try Not To Sin!

[Isabella White]

Re: Greetings from the depths of Hell

Bernie You Make Me Want To Vomit!Your More Unsaved Trash Then I am.
At Least I Try Not To Sin!

Dear Miss JJ: I do hope that you realize there is a difference between trying and doing. People can say that they try to do their best, but if all they can manage is a half-hearted attempt, then the chances are great that they shall fail to do that which they say they are trying to do. I think you will see that this requires a bit more than just trying. It takes determination and great resolve to actually commit to doing one's best. And this is very plainly explained within the blessed pages of the :
Joshua 24:15 "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."

I Kings 18:21 "And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word."

And, what else would our beloved expect of us?

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Now, imagine, if you will, just how horrible it would have been for the world if had "tried" to save mankind from their sins but, instead, became distracted and wasted his time by constantly whittling useless gadgets in carpentry shop. I think you can see the importance of accomplishment in dying on a cross and providing the blessed that is required to wash us from our sins so that we can avoid spending eternity in . And trying not to sin and failing to do so will only land you in the very that the managed to conquer.

Revelation 1:18 " I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

Now, then, I do hope that you will try your utmost to do your very best in making your goals a reality. We do care, you know; of this, you can rest assured.

May bless you, Dear
P.S. And, if you don't mind, kindly cease from capitalizing every word of your text (unless your sentence consists of only one word). And, it's "you're", and not "your", in the context of your statement. Thank you for understanding. It's not that I'm being fussy, but I do like things to be just so -- it's the librarian within me that speaks.