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  • Moshun
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    • Jan 2010
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    #1

    Hello. This is Thomas.

    I am Thomas Shun from Seattle. I've just recently become a member of Seattle's First Baptist Church. Currently, I am a student at Seattle University working on my Master's. I also work full time in PR at Microsoft. I wish to extend my network into the Christian community.
  • DIDO2SPAC
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    #2
    Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

    Originally posted by Moshun View Post
    I am Thomas Shun from Seattle. I've just recently become a member of Seattle's First Baptist Church. Currently, I am a student at Seattle University working on my Master's. I also work full time in PR at Microsoft. I wish to extend my network into the Christian community.
    I see what you did there, brother in Christ!

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    • Mistress Cookie
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      • Jul 2008
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      #3
      Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

      Best wishes to you, Brother Thomas. It is always pleasant to meet another true follower of Our Lord™.

      Can you share your favorite Bible quotation with us, so we might get to know your particular interests better?

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      • Moshun
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        #4
        Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

        Dido2pac: I do not understand.

        Originally posted by Mistress Cookie View Post
        Best wishes to you, Brother Thomas. It is always pleasant to meet another true follower of Our Lord™.

        Can you share your favorite Bible quotation with us, so we might get to know your particular interests better?
        Its a famous verse.

        From Luke, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

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        • Rev. Jim Osborne
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          #5
          Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

          Originally posted by Moshun View Post
          Dido2pac: I do not understand.



          Its a famous verse.

          From Luke, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.
          Yes, Matthew 7:1 is indeed a great verse. However, you do know what it's about right?

          Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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          • Moshun
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            #6
            Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

            Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
            Yes, Matthew 7:1 is indeed a great verse. However, you do know what it's about right?
            This is my paraphrasing. I'm still in the process of learning so please correct me.

            Not judging others but judge ourselves. All judgment of self should be based on grounds. It is not my place to judge but Gods. To serve and to support but do not judge. If one were to judge others, then one should expect to be judged not just by others but also by God.

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            • Ezekiel Bathfire
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              • Jan 2008
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              #7
              Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

              So, if we are to judge, and we must know good from evil and thus judge, how are we to judge people? (There is a verse that helps here.)

              Can you see a difference between judging an action against yourself and an action that is against God?
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              • Moshun
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                #8
                Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                So, if we are to judge, and we must know good from evil and thus judge, how are we to judge people? (There is a verse that helps here.)

                Can you see a difference between judging an action against yourself and an action that is against God?
                Do mean to not judge with a motive?

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                • Ezekiel Bathfire
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                  • Jan 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                  Originally posted by Moshun View Post
                  Do mean to not judge with a motive?
                  A motive can be attributed to all actions; we look to:

                  Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

                  In simple terms, you shall set aside all self interest, perhaps you meant to indicate a 'personal' motive; that would be mostly right. So here we must judge our neighbor fairly.

                  We also have,

                  1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

                  So we may judge.

                  However, where God has given a Commandment, then no judgment is required - we act on that Commandment, otherwise we question God.

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                  “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                  Author of such illuminating essays as,
                  Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                  • LittleMissV
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                    #10
                    Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                    How old are you Thomas? What kind of pies does your wife bake? Maybe she'd be interested in swapping some good recipes

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                    • Moshun
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                      #11
                      Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                      Originally posted by LittleMissV View Post
                      How old are you Thomas? What kind of pies does your wife bake? Maybe she'd be interested in swapping some good recipes
                      Hi. I am 25 years old and unmarried. Sorry, I have no pie recipes to offer.

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                      • Meek and Humble
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                        • Dec 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                        Well, let's examine that closely, amigo.

                        37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

                        Seems straight forward. God will act towards you as you act towards others. Moving on...

                        38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

                        By the same measure you use, you shall be measured. What does this mean? It means every time you judge, God will judge you. However, God will use the same standard you use. And if you happen to be within that standard, you'll be fine. If I judge homosexuals, but am not a homosexual, or something worse, I'm ok. How do I know this is what it means? Keep reading...

                        6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
                        6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
                        The problem arises when blind try to lead the blind. But is EVERYONE blind? No. Christians (aka disciples) although not above the Master, are perfect like Him. The only problem with judging is when you judge someone else and you have your own problems, pointing out a mote when you have a beam in your eye. And if you do have a beam, does Jesus tell you to be quiet forever? No! Keep reading...

                        6:42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

                        Jesus tells us what to do. First get rid of your sin, and then tell others to stop sinning. He does not say go on sinning and never saying anything bad.

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                        • Moshun
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                          #13
                          Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                          I really do not judge others. Hopefully, God can show mercy on me.

                          I would like to learn more about Christianity. I am a new converted Christian. I started attending the Seattle Baptist Church a few months ago and seeking forgiveness. Whether it is possible I can be saved, I am unsure but I just hope that in the short time I have left, I can hope for something greater.

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                          • GOD=life
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                            #14
                            Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                            How do you feel about your job? This is somehing you may wish to reconsider.

                            Can you guess who spoke the following words? "Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning."

                            That's right. Your boss, Bill Gates (Bill Hates, really) ... the richest man in the world.

                            Secondly, it should also be noted that the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation squanders billions of dollars in India instead of in the USA. As far as I can tell, they spend next to nothing on missionary work or spreading God's Word. (big surprise there)

                            So in your job you are forced to create bordeline false images (by definition) in people's minds of the product you're trying to sell to encourage people to give you their hard-earned dollars so that will be used for atheist purposes.

                            Do you see that there's a bit of a problem here in God's eyes? Your heart seems to be in the right place, but your works...
                            I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                            Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                            Matthew 7:22
                            Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                            Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                            Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                            • Moshun
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                              #15
                              Re: Hello. This is Thomas.

                              Oh, my job brings stress usually but my coworkers are great. They are my primary family. Bill Gates isn't the richest man but he is up there. Also, Gates is no longer part of Microsoft and makes no decisions within the company. He is an investor and also does not represent the employees' ideals and beliefs within.

                              Yes, I do create images which are often false but my department doesn't offer products to the general consumers. Not yet anyways. I only work with the Surface, now being being merged with the Courier due to budget cuts. It is stress work. But thats neither here nor there.

                              I've been facing several problems but it was my coworkers that suggested I look to the Bible for answers. So 3 months ago, I became involved with the Seattle First Baptist Church, following my friends. I haven't found any answers yet and I do not believe I have the right to be called a Christian because I don't quite understand things yet.

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