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  • prochoice
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    • Jan 2010
    • 14

    #1

    I am a real Christian and new here.

    I just joined to be enlightened and to try to figure out how people believe things such as these yet are still seen as "Christians".
  • Oakland "Reb" Griner
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Jun 2009
    • 2241

    #2
    Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

    You have it backwards,

    the real mystery is how the folks who pick and choose and delete and add to the Scriptures are still allowed to call themselves Christians.
    Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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    • Levi Jones
      Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
      Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
      Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
       
      • Jul 2009
      • 13930

      #3
      Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

      You seem to be having issues with what the Bible says. Can you point out how we are not scripturally correct, friend?
      Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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      • Cranky Old Man
        Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
        You kids get off his lawn!
         
        • Jan 2010
        • 22380

        #4
        Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

        Originally posted by prochoice View Post
        I just joined to be enlightened and to try to figure out how people believe things such as these yet are still seen as "Christians".
        Why are there quotes there? Does your name mean you want to kill unborn babies?
        5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
        To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
        James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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        • prochoice
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          • Jan 2010
          • 14

          #5
          Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

          Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
          Why are there quotes there? Does you name mean you want to kill unborn babies?
          Well, Cranky Old Man, it actually doesnt. It was a mere catalyst. I just love it how people can take Scripture and not learn the lesson that is important but remember exactly what happens in the story. That is like only paying attention to characters in a literary classic and not the symbolism within.

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          • Cranky Old Man
            Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
            You kids get off his lawn!
             
            • Jan 2010
            • 22380

            #6
            Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

            Originally posted by prochoice View Post
            I just love it how people can take Scripture and not learn the lesson that is important but remember exactly what happens in the story.
            Can you give us an example of some scripture where we learned the wrong lesson?
            5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
            To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
            James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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            • peterjohansson
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              • Jan 2010
              • 89

              #7
              Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

              A new recruit, how wonderful, how may we call you?

              If you are a Christian, could you atleast tell us what your favorite Bible verse is and what Church you attend?

              Welcome to Gods favorite forums son!
              KJV Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

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              • GodIsAlmighty
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Jan 2010
                • 184

                #8
                Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                Originally posted by prochoice View Post
                I just joined to be enlightened and to try to figure out how people believe things such as these yet are still seen as "Christians".
                I believe you are contradicting yourself.

                If you are a real Christian (although obviously not a True Christian™ yet), than how can you accuse people who take the whole bible and don't bend its words unlike the false Christians of being unworthy of being called Christians? It makes me wonder perhaps you are also a false Christian, despite what your title says. Please show us one time where we took a bible verse out of context.

                Also, since this is an introduction, perhaps you should also state your name, whether or not your married, what's your favorite bible verse, etc.
                Follow me on Thefacebook! http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000884272376

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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29457

                  #9
                  Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                  Originally posted by prochoice View Post
                  I just joined to be enlightened and to try to figure out how people believe things such as these yet are still seen as "Christians".
                  Son, we are True Christians™, a title that does not come lightly.

                  A lot of work, time and love is needed to attain this. You have read the KJV1611 Bible, you have to live by it. Every single passage must be followed exactly, with zero tolerance for deviation.
                  If a person is capable and loves enough, it can be done, We are proof of the accomplishment.
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • Gabriel Reproba
                    Head Attorney of Landover's Legal Team
                    The Most Honest Lawyer in America
                    True Christian™
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2479

                    #10
                    Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                    Originally posted by prochoice View Post
                    I am a real Christian and new here.
                    Can you please define what you think it means to be a Christian?
                    Yours In Christ,

                    Gabriel Reproba, Esq. (Lawyer for the Lord)

                    Further reading to help you become a True Christian™

                    Stoning Sinners: A How-To Guide
                    Scientific Study: Bible is NOT "All About Love"
                    The One Sin Jesus Says He Won't EVER Forgive!
                    Should we only follow SOME of the Bible?
                    How will YOU sacrifice your kids?
                    20 Questions To See If Your Son Is A Fag
                    God: Dress Like A Whore...Get Raped!
                    Bible: If You Love Your Wife, Beat Her!
                    Logic and Bible Agree: Gay is a choice!
                    Nursery Rhymes Teach kids that Christ is Lord!
                    There is no such thing as an "agnostic!"
                    Science: People are Only Islamic Because They are Depressed!

                    Reading only the parts of the Bible your pastor tells you to (those that make you feel warm and fuzzy) is nothing but mental and spiritual masturbation. Read the WHOLE Bible to find out what Christianity is REALLY all about! Only then can you talk to us about why we try so hard to save people from Hell.

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                    • Paul Jeffery
                      Forum Member
                      Forum Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 272

                      #11
                      Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                      Originally posted by prochoice View Post
                      Well, Cranky Old Man, it actually doesnt. It was a mere catalyst. I just love it how people can take Scripture and not learn the lesson that is important but remember exactly what happens in the story. That is like only paying attention to characters in a literary classic and not the symbolism within.
                      Way to ignore sidestep the question there, "prochoice". That question remains unanswered. Why DO you choose to call yourself a baby butcher anyway? Do you have no regard for life? How many of your own offspring have you had vacuumed from your uterus?
                      sigpicMIKE HUCKABEE/RAND PAUL - 2012 (or sooner if possible)

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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
                        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                         
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78556

                        #12
                        Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                        Originally posted by prochoice View Post
                        I just joined to be enlightened and to try to figure out how people believe things such as these yet are still seen as "Christians".
                        So let me get this straight: You call yourself a "real Christian" and then you claim you came here to be "enlightened?" What exactly does that mean? If you're a "real Christian" what enlightenment do you need?

                        And what made you decide to be hateful from your very first post? This is the introduction forum. You're supposed to tell us about yourself. What church do you attend? Are you Male or just a female? How old are you? Don't you have any manners?

                        You can get the basics of what we believe HERE.
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • GOD=life
                          WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                          True Christian™
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 3263

                          #13
                          Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                          Originally posted by prochoice View Post
                          I just joined to be enlightened (no, you came here with a preconceived notion with the intent of bashing Christians) and to try to figure out how people believe things such as these (yeah, silly Bible... who would believe it?) yet are still seen as "Christians" (because people who follow the Bible/Jesus are Christians).
                          So basically, you're saying that you're a Christian who is surprised that there are "still" Christians who follow the Bible? Either you accept the Bible or you don't. You can't pick-and-choose the parts you like and disregard the parts you don't. That's just making God "say" the things you like to hear, which is blasphemous.

                          We have studied the Bible extensively. For every single position, we can cite Scripture and provide rational and logical arguments to back up why Scripture make sense (not hard, since God wrote it). What is your argument except a lame-duck ad hominem argument?

                          Additionally, your username seems to imply that you support murdering innocent babies through abortion. That contradicts directly with your claim to be a Christian.
                          I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                          Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                          Matthew 7:22
                          Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                          Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                          Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                          • Lucien Lachance
                            Confirmed Enemy of God
                            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 7

                            #14
                            Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                            Originally posted by Oakland "Reb" Griner View Post
                            You have it backwards,

                            the real mystery is how the folks who pick and choose and delete and add to the Scriptures are still allowed to call themselves Christians.
                            If you don't believe what we believe, you probably aren't a true Christian, because we certainly are. I pray to god that he will end these agnostic thoughts you are clearly having and steer you towards the road to heaven.

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                            • GOD=life
                              WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                              True Christian™
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 3263

                              #15
                              Re: I am a real Christian and new here.

                              Originally posted by Lucien Lachance View Post
                              If you don't believe what we (be careful with saying "we" if you don't have True Christian in your title and a lot of green blocks) believe, you probably aren't a true Christian, because we certainly are. I pray to God (feel free to CAPITALIZE God) that He (and "He" too, while you're at it) will end these agnostic thoughts you are clearly having and steer you towards the road to heaven.
                              It's not about believing what we believe. It's about following the Bible how God intended it, instead of butchering it into some lieberal claptrap.
                              I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                              Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                              Matthew 7:22
                              Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                              Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                              Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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