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  • One-Note Natalie
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    Under Investigation
    • Feb 2010
    • 5

    #1

    Slight mishaps on God's part

    Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible? The fact that it was written by humans not God? And what about the Dinosaurs? They are not mentioned in the Bible, maybe because they were only discovered in the 60's and the Bible was written before? I imagine God just forgot to mention them.
    Also why is there evil in the world? If God is benevolent then why did he allow evil to flourish? For example the snake that speaks to Adam and Eve, why did God create the snake and allow him to trick Adam and Eve into eating from the tree? Surely if God is omnipotent and omniscient he would know what was going to happen?
    Furthermore i dont know if anyone here knows of the Euthyphro Dilemma? Does God command the good because it is good, or is it good because it is commanded by God? If God commands something because it is good it means he is subject to some external standard of good, something more powerful than him. Yet if it is good because God commands it then God can be seen as a dictator, we would then have no free will.
    This is a major problem i think you will find.
    Finally, Jesus was not "american" as the American State had not been created when he was born. Also someone from Judea would not be blonde with blue eyes, they would look much like the israelis. Also wasn't Jesus a Jew not a christian?
  • Pastor Isaac Peters
    Senior Pastor
    Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
    Always Biblically correct
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 10639

    #2
    Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

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    • One-Note Natalie
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      Under Investigation
      • Feb 2010
      • 5

      #3
      Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

      How do you know God is white, have you ever seen him? Do you think people who painted (not a photo so it cant really be used as evidence) him saw him too?
      Also if God impregnated Mary as the Pastor said does that not make God and adulterer as Mary and Joseph were married? Therefore God is breaking one of his 10 Commandments which, ironically, were given to a Jew in Moses, not a Christian. So you are following Jewish rules.
      Also the Pastor said that " A white skinned man in the Middle East 2000 years ago was surely a miracle and Jesus was and is a miracle worker." Yet the Romans inhabited Jerusalem at this point and Romans (hailing from Italy) were white. So i doubt many people would be surprised to see another white man.
      Furthermore just because Heaven apparently has "white clouds with light shining through them" doesnt mean the inhabitants are white. Surely everyone knows that White people burn easier than black or arabic peoples. Take a look at ginger people for example. Our skin is not used to excessive light and sun, we come from colder climes.
      Also the Pastor is sure that "white" "stops many other diseases in its tracks". Really? Are you sure? Because i doubt you can be without actually having been there, and i would be pretty certain that you havn't.
      Also SUV mentions Vanilla Ice. I thought you only listened to Christian music, have you heard some of Vanilla Ice's lyrics?!

      Finally wasnt the ide of the flood to wipe out evil from the face of the earth? If so i could think of a much more effective way than flooding it. Surely now we should be overrun with evil fish and ducks "quack, quack, quack" that survived the flood? So it was a big oversight on God's part to choose a flood.

      Pastor could you please dignify me with a response, or in fact anyone who has any valid points.
      And i know this seems like a rant but i have many unanswered questions.

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      • James Dewitt
        #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
        • Jan 2010
        • 6267

        #4
        Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

        Originally posted by One-Note Natalie View Post

        i have many unanswered questions.
        Dear Nat, read the Bible. God thought of every question, and supplied an answer before you thought of them. He knows all. Why do you hate Jesus, He love you and wants you to love Him. Your soul yearns for His love, don't turn your back on Him.

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        • James Hutchins
          True Christian™
          Just a Regular Nice Guy
           
          • Jun 2009
          • 29453

          #5
          Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

          Well 'Natalie', this is one heck of introduction. I feel like I've known you for years.

          I am sure if asked, I could give a complete explantion of what makes 'Natalie', 'Natalie'.

          I'd say

          'Natalie' hates God, is lazy and is an all around nudge."
          Last edited by James Hutchins; 02-20-2010, 08:30 PM.
          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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          • Brother Temperance
            Senior Usher
            True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
            A very nice young man
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 15621

            #6
            Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

            Originally posted by One-Note Natalie View Post
            Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible?
            No.
            The fact that it was written by humans not God?
            That's like saying your post was written by a keyboard, when actually it was written by an idiot.
            And what about the Dinosaurs?
            What about them?
            They are not mentioned in the Bible, maybe because they were only discovered in the 60's and the Bible was written before? I imagine God just forgot to mention them.
            Have you ever seen a dinosaurs?
            Also why is there evil in the world? If God is benevolent then why did he allow evil to flourish? For example the snake that speaks to Adam and Eve, why did God create the snake and allow him to trick Adam and Eve into eating from the tree? Surely if God is omnipotent and omniscient he would know what was going to happen?
            Furthermore i dont know if anyone here knows of the Euthyphro Dilemma? Does God command the good because it is good, or is it good because it is commanded by God? If God commands something because it is good it means he is subject to some external standard of good, something more powerful than him. Yet if it is good because God commands it then God can be seen as a dictator, we would then have no free will.
            God certainly can be seen as a dictator. The supreme dictator. Why would you want to get on his bad side?
            Originally posted by One-Note Natalie View Post
            Also if God impregnated Mary as the Pastor said does that not make God and adulterer as Mary and Joseph were married? Therefore God is breaking one of his 10 Commandments which, ironically, were given to a Jew in Moses, not a Christian. So you are following Jewish rules.
            You're going too fast. I can barely keep track of your blasphemies, much less make any sense of them. Are you going for some kind of a record? Why would Moses have a Jew in him?
            Also the Pastor said that " A white skinned man in the Middle East 2000 years ago was surely a miracle and Jesus was and is a miracle worker." Yet the Romans inhabited Jerusalem at this point and Romans (hailing from Italy) were white. So i doubt many people would be surprised to see another white man.
            Then it makes sense for him to be white, doesn't it?
            Finally wasnt the ide of the flood to wipe out evil from the face of the earth? If so i could think of a much more effective way than flooding it. Surely now we should be overrun with evil fish and ducks "quack, quack, quack" that survived the flood? So it was a big oversight on God's part to choose a flood.
            Throwing "quack, quack, quack" into the middle of a sentence doesn't help your argument, it just makes you sound like a snotty duck.
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • Jacob the Angry Liar
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              • Jan 2010
              • 309

              #7
              Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

              15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
              16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
              17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
              18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
              19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
              20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
              21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
              22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
              23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. 24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares. (Job 40:15-24)


              1Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

              2Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
              3Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
              4Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
              5Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
              6Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?
              7Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?
              8Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.
              9Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
              10None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
              11Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
              12I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
              13Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?
              14Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
              15His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
              16One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
              17They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
              18By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
              19Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
              20Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
              21His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
              22In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
              23The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
              24His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
              25When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
              26The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
              27He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
              28The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
              29Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
              30Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
              31He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
              32He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
              33Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear. 34He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride. (Job 41)

              God designed the dinosaurs, such as these two creatures described above, along with all of the other beasts when He created the world.

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              • James Hutchins
                True Christian™
                Just a Regular Nice Guy
                 
                • Jun 2009
                • 29453

                #8
                Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                Well said, Jacob!
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • Ezekiel Bathfire
                  Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                  Christ's Rottweiler
                   
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 22895

                  #9
                  Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                  Originally posted by One-Note Natalie View Post
                  How do you know God is white, have you ever seen him? [...]
                  Ge:1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
                  Ge:1:27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


                  We look further into Genesis and see that the Soms of Cush were black and servants, so it is clear that they did not have this dominion and therefore were not "in His image."

                  Anyhoo, this is all basic stuff, I'm sure that you like me were told poems at your mother's knee. All those many years ago, I well recall my mother telling me this nursery rhyme:

                  "God made the little nigger boys,
                  He made them in the night.
                  He made them in a hurry
                  and forgot to paint them white."


                  So he was making them white like Him.

                  (I hope you teach your children nursery rhymes.)
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                  • Cranky Old Man
                    Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                    You kids get off his lawn!
                     
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 22377

                    #10
                    Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                    Originally posted by One-Note Natalie View Post
                    Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible? The fact that it was written by humans not God?
                    2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

                    Originally posted by One-Note Natalie View Post
                    How do you know God is white, have you ever seen him?
                    Revelation 1:14 "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire"
                    5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                    To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                    James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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                    • Soulless Husk
                      Forum Member
                      Forum Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 29

                      #11
                      Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                      Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                      No.
                      That's like saying your post was written by a keyboard, when actually it was written by an idiot.
                      So Human is to keyboard what God is to idiot?

                      Interesting theory there Brother Temperance...

                      Just as a man uses a keyboard to express what he represents, so too does GOD use idiots to show what HE represents. If that is so, then surely all of these faithful worshippers who frequent this board are truly TOOLS of GOD, used to express what GOD wishes to convey.
                      The good Lord looks down upon those who deal in S&M, Goths be warned:

                      Exodus 1:14

                      And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

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                      • BelieverInGod
                        Fourm Member
                        Forum Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 9269

                        #12
                        Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                        So you'd rather be a 'Soulless Husk' rather than a tool of God?

                        Strange way of looking at life
                        Drama queen

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                        • Soulless Husk
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 29

                          #13
                          Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                          Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                          So you'd rather be a 'Soulless Husk' rather than a tool of God?

                          Strange way of looking at life
                          Alas, that is the way God made me, and in knowing this I understand that he must have had a greater purpose in mind. Maybe I am to be the grease that keeps the cogs of LBC turning. If so then I say LORD, grind me into a paste of human lubrication and inject me into the heart of this HOLY machine!
                          The good Lord looks down upon those who deal in S&M, Goths be warned:

                          Exodus 1:14

                          And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

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                          • Cranky Old Man
                            Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                            You kids get off his lawn!
                             
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 22377

                            #14
                            Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                            Originally posted by Soulless Husk View Post
                            inject me into the heart of this HOLY machine!
                            Satan will inject his burning seed into your ass for all eternity if you do not change your ways!
                            5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                            To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                            James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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                            • Soulless Husk
                              Forum Member
                              Forum Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 29

                              #15
                              Re: Slight mishaps on God's part

                              Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
                              Satan will inject his burning seed into your ass for all eternity if you do not change your ways!
                              Old man, my ways are changing, and my ass is a one way orifice, meant only for the function the good Lord meant it to be. May it remain that way, lest he cast my ass to the great fires!
                              The good Lord looks down upon those who deal in S&M, Goths be warned:

                              Exodus 1:14

                              And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

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