New here with a few questions

[Kingdavid]

I have a few questions about this site,

Why is every member classed as unsaved trash?
Did Jesus ever use this term in the Bible?
If so, where was the term used? Give me the name of the book, the chapter, and the verse please.
If you're not able to provide any evidene that Jesus ever used that kind of language, then I respectfully request that this title be removed from all new members, as it goes against our basic human rights.
If you have any dispute to this, then you should know that even God and Jesus Christ have given us basic human rights.

Also, why do I sense so much hate in this forum?
I thought God is Love
Please, for all your sakes, think about your words and your actions, because not all who cry out Lord, Lord! will be saved.

As the book of proverbs says, a gentle word is like honey for the soul.

One more thig, can you please explain to me the smilies on the right hand side of the page? especially this one...

As far as I know, the word Christian means like christ, and Christ never killed anyone, but when people tried to kill him, he healed them and forgave them.

Thank you for your time,

KingDavid

[BelieverInGod]

Re: New here with a few questions

All of your questions can be answered by using the handy-dandy search function located on the tool bar.

Here I'll even make it easy for you

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/search.php

[Nobar King]

Re: New here with a few questions

You sure have a lot of questions.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: New here with a few questions

Hello,

Even though we use ONLY the KJV1611 as reference points for correct and accurate scripture, sometimes we do have to "modernize" our every day speech so that those, not conversant with the KJV1611 have a better understanding.

Reference to "unsaved trash" is simple. Unsaved of course means anyone who has not accepted The Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior.

Trash: well trash is what we put out in the dump.

I believe the Unsaved trash term then, comes very much from The Place Called Gehenna.

It is another word for HELL.

In Old Testament times GEHENNA was a place located outside the city walls of Jerusalem. It was also called the VALLEY OF HINNOM. It was at this place that children were sometimes sacrificed and burned in flames. Children would be passed through the flames (see 2 Chronicles 28:3). This wicked practice took place at Gehenna. In Old Testament times when people thought of this place they thought of bodies being burned in fire!

Years later Gehenna became the city dump! The Jews living in Jerusalem would throw their garbage and worthless things into this valley. Even the bodies of dead animals would be thrown into this place to be devoured by the maggots and the flames. Sometimes the bodies of unburied criminals were thrown into Gehenna after they were executed or crucified. A fire was kept burning in this valley in order to consume the waste and rubbish and dead bodies that were thrown there. It seemed that the fires in this valley never went out. The place even came to be called THE GEHENNA OF FIRE.

So does this make more sense to you now?

I hope so,

YIC,

WS

[True Disciple]

Re: New here with a few questions

Why is every member classed as unsaved trash?
Did Jesus ever use this term in the Bible?
If so, where was the term used? Give me the name of the book, the chapter, and the verse please.

Well, my friend, let's take a look at the language Jesus used:

Matthew 12:34:
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 23:27-28:
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

John 8:44:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Reading this, I think Unsaved Trash is rather mild. If you would prefer to be referred to as "spawn of vipers" or "child of Satan," I'm sure you can request such by mailing a Pastor.

If you're not able to provide any evidene that Jesus ever used that kind of language, then I respectfully request that this title be removed from all new members, as it goes against our basic human rights.

Yeah, we're going to listen to you, unsaved trash that comes strotting into our forum demanding that we redecorate the place. Who do you think you are?

Anyway, I've explained that Jesus used harsher terms when addressing His critics. Nowhere does Jesus forbid calling people "unsaved trash," so I don't see why we should care the slightest about your opinion.

If you have any dispute to this, then you should know that even God and Jesus Christ have given us basic human rights.

"basic human rights..."

Also, why do I sense so much hate in this forum?
I thought God is Love

He is. But you, being blinded by Satan, fail to recognize it, and interpret God's Love as hate:

2 Corinthians 4:3-5:
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

Please, for all your sakes, think about your words and your actions, because not all who cry out Lord, Lord! will be saved.

We know that:

Matthew 7:21:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

So, we strive to do the Will of the Father, which consists of living the Christian Life as it is described in the Bible. You will notice that we never derive from Scripture either in word or in deed.

As the book of proverbs says, a gentle word is like honey for the soul.

Proverbs also says:

Proverbs 26:3:
A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

Sometimes, people need to be confronted with the harsh truth in order to lead them to Salvation(tm).

One more thig, can you please explain to me the smilies on the right hand side of the page? especially this one...

You need explanation for that one? It depicts violent people being bombed. I thought that would be obvious.

As far as I know, the word Christian means like christ, and Christ never killed anyone, but when people tried to kill him, he healed them and forgave them.

He never killed anyone while on Earth. However, He will damn them to Hell later on:

Matthew 25:31-34,41,46:
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
....
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
...
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


So you see, Jesus didn't kill anyone while on Earth (by the way, I haven't killed anyone in my life either), but He will send people into an Eternity of Torture, which, I think, is somewhat more than just killing someone.

[Levi Jones]

Re: New here with a few questions

I have a few questions about this site,

Why is every member classed as unsaved trash?

They aren't. At least I hope the Lord didn't change my title since the last time I looked.

Did Jesus ever use this term in the Bible?
If so, where was the term used? Give me the name of the book, the chapter, and the verse please.
If you're not able to provide any evidene that Jesus ever used that kind of language, then I respectfully request that this title be removed from all new members, as it goes against our basic human rights.

If you have any dispute to this, then you should know that even God and Jesus Christ have given us basic human rights.

Here are your rights as listed on this private forum.

Here Jesus calls a woman a dog and tells her He isn't here for her. We're being just like Jesus.

Matthew 15:22-29
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
And Jesus departed from thence, and came nigh unto the sea of Galilee; and went up into a mountain, and sat down there.

Also, why do I sense so much hate in this forum?
I thought God is Love

He is love.

1 John:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

And other times.

Hosea 9:15
All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Psalm 11:5
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Please, for all your sakes, think about your words and your actions, because not all who cry out Lord, Lord! will be saved.

Indeed they won't. We work diligently to save souls and minister to the unsaved.

As the book of proverbs says, a gentle word is like honey for the soul.

As Hebrews 12:5-8 says

And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

One more thig, can you please explain to me the smilies on the right hand side of the page? especially this one...

I think it's fairly self explanatory, but if you need a Bible verse to back it up, I have you covered.

2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

As far as I know, the word Christian means like christ, and Christ never killed anyone, but when people tried to kill him, he healed them and forgave them.

Do you believe that God and the Father are one? Of course you do.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

We study the whole Word of God here, friend.

Deuteronomy 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.

Thank you for your time,

KingDavid

No problem. It's my pleasure pointing out what the Bible says.

[VA W.A.S.P.]

Re: New here with a few questions

If you're not able to provide any evidene that Jesus ever used that kind of language, then I respectfully request that this title be removed from all new members, as it goes against our basic human rights.

We have walked into this community uninvited. I assume that they would just want us to prove our good intentions before they give accreditation to the posts that we make. There are ideals here to be upheld and by labeling people 'unsaved trash' those of us that are new and have a true desire to be a part of this community can have a way to gauge if we should trust a particular post's source.

Perhaps I have not been able to word this as I would have liked to, but I know what I mean :]. It seems to be a good system to me!

[True Disciple]

Re: New here with a few questions

We have walked into this community uninvited. I assume that they would just want us to prove our good intentions before they give accreditation to the posts that we make. There are ideals here to be upheld and by labeling people 'unsaved trash' those of us that are new and have a true desire to be a part of this community can have a way to gauge if we should trust a particular post's source.

Perhaps I have not been able to word this as I would have liked to, but I know what I mean :]. It seems to be a good system to me!

I think you seem to be understanding it, friend!

[VA W.A.S.P.]

Re: New here with a few questions

I think you seem to be understanding it, friend!

Brilliant! I appreciate the reassurance!!!

[Sister Charli]

Re: New here with a few questions

If you're not able to provide any evidene that Jesus ever used that kind of language, then I respectfully request that this title be removed from all new members, as it goes against our basic human rights.

KingDavid

There is considerably more evidence to suggest that Jesus (were he in his physical body walking the earth today, rather than doing so in his spiritual body) would use language like unsaved trash than appears to be evidence supporting your claim of being a King.