A greeting with a question

[Raine Amorie]

Hello everything, as it should be obvious I am new here. My name is Raine Amorie (well my user name at least ^^) and I am here to ask a few questions that I feel must be asked, for my own sake as I seek a path of redemption. I used to go to church until recently, the over zealous (borderline heretical) neighbor scared me away from the church though. Now said neighbor used to teach me things about the bible and certain acts of God that she brought up frightened me. When I checked my own bible, such texts didn't even exist which lead me to question my own faith.

One such text was from Hosea 9:11-16 NLT reading: he glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."
Other similar things were read to me and my jaw dropped, I was in shock to learn these things....

[Raine Amorie]

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I would really appreciate some light being shed on this.....can someone help me understand why these passages even exist? If the bible is written by men who were guided by God, then why would they write such horrid things?

[Lisa H]

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Welcome Raine.

To find your answer you must read the whole of Hosea 9. You have missed the the start which is confusing you.

Hosea 9
1 Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor.
2 The floor and the winepress shall not feed them, and the new wine shall fail in her.
3 They shall not dwell in the LORD's land; but Ephraim shall return to Egypt, and they shall eat unclean things in Assyria.
4 They shall not offer wine offerings to the LORD, neither shall they be pleasing unto him: their sacrifices shall be unto them as the bread of mourners; all that eat thereof shall be polluted: for their bread for their soul shall not come into the house of the LORD.
5 What will ye do in the solemn day, and in the day of the feast of the LORD?
6 For, lo, they are gone because of destruction: Egypt shall gather them up, Memphis shall bury them: the pleasant places for their silver, nettles shall possess them: thorns shall be in their tabernacles.
7 The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.
8 The watchman of Ephraim was with my God: but the prophet is a snare of a fowler in all his ways, and hatred in the house of his God.
9 They have deeply corrupted themselves, as in the days of Gibeah: therefore he will remember their iniquity, he will visit their sins.

[Raine Amorie]

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I thank you for replying kindly and clearing that up but I no longer believe I wish to be a part of this forum any longer, after browsing some topics then posting in a quality that I saw, I believe this forum is mostly populated by over zealous idiots who shame the name of God, it is my firm believe that God would rather accept a heretic into Heaven and over half of these people, also this "Unsaved Trash" forum title I've noticed doesn't help at all, it makes them seem arrogant. Angels would surely weep, God would surely cast them into hell for daring to place themselves so high and mighty.

[Lisa H]

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I thank you for replying kindly and clearing that up but I no longer believe I wish to be a part of this forum any longer, after browsing some topics then posting in a quality that I saw, I believe this forum is mostly populated by over zealous idiots who shame the name of God, it is my firm believe that God would rather accept a heretic into Heaven and over half of these people, also this "Unsaved Trash" forum title I've noticed doesn't help at all, it makes them seem arrogant. Angels would surely weep, God would surely cast them into hell for daring to place themselves so high and mighty.

Raine I think you have a misunderstanding. The Lord will only allow people who are True Christians into Heaven. Why would He want unbelievers in Heaven.

The Unsaved Trash is a title given to all new people. As you progress in you Christian learning your title changes.

[Raine Amorie]

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Raine I think you have a misunderstanding. The Lord will only allow people who are True Christians into Heaven. Why would He want unbelievers in Heaven.

The Unsaved Trash is a title given to all new people. As you progress in you Christian learning your title changes.

Maybe I was misunderstood and thank you for not spitting zealousness in my face like most of the responses I've seen on here but I was being umm for lack of a better word, Sarcastic, alot of people on this forum are so zealous that a Heretic is better company than them. Maybe I am not being clear enough but it is late at night were I am and I cannot find the words to get my point across clearly as I should be able to.

[Lisa H]

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Maybe I was misunderstood and thank you for not spitting zealousness in my face like most of the responses I've seen on here but I was being umm for lack of a better word, Sarcastic, alot of people on this forum are so zealous that a Heretic is better company than them. Maybe I am not being clear enough but it is late at night were I am and I cannot find the words to get my point across clearly as I should be able to.

What is wrong with being passionate for the Lord. Did not Jesus go into the temples and over turn the tables and tell off the priests for doing things against God. Would he have not died on the cross if he was not passionate in his teachings for his Father, God.

[Raine Amorie]

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What is wrong with being passionate for the Lord. Did not Jesus go into the temples and over turn the tables and tell off the priests for doing things against God. Would he have not died on the cross if he was not passionate in his teachings for his Father, God.

I am all for being passionate but not to the point of borderline breaking the law, this racism and over zealous is exactly what drives young minds away from us, we need to rethink our way of approaching people. I've seen people who are harassed cause of their race simply cause the bible says their race is inferior when they follow the path the rest of the good Christian people follow. It just seems unfair and hateful. Its all very discouraging. Oh I know this has nothing to do with the topic I am born and raised in America, I do speak English (cause american isn't a language, I saw that mentioned somewhere.)

[Raine Amorie]

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Anywho my point is, the Christian population is dwindling despite what anyone will say, over 80% (thats about a fair guess) of the people I meet are Atheist or otherwise. Those who remain Christian are either becoming more doubtful of their faith or are degrading into zealous animals that will only be wiped off the face of the Earth unless they clean up their acts. Theres a reason the bible was rewritten as it was, theres a reason Christian religion is being changed, theres a reason the Crusades aren't happening to this day. Be passionate but don't let it get to the point of insulting someone who can be saved, maybe I am getting it wrong but is forgiveness and love something we are supposed to do? I understand some don't deserve it, but we should not stoop to the level of some of the heretics, this forum and its people provide enough proof that reason and common HUMAN sense are NOT something Christians tend to practice and the rest of the Christian population suffers cause of the actions of the few. (namely people such as those that appear on this forum.)

[Raine Amorie]

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Anyways Ms (Or Mrs.!) Lisa I think it would better if I was just branded a heretic to this forum and have my named wiped from the roster, I just cannot agree with these people, maybe I am to forgiving or to nice but I just can't tolerate such..... intolerance that these people show and to have the gall to claim its in the name of God is just so....insane and I am even to go as far as to say blasphemous. They give God a bad name and only prove that Christians are insane zealots. I don't want to be associated with them less I lose any hope of converting others and bringing the true believers to the light.

[Lisa H]

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Anywho my point is, the Christian population is dwindling despite what anyone will say, over 80% (thats about a fair guess) of the people I meet are Atheist or otherwise. Those who remain Christian are either becoming more doubtful of their faith or are degrading into zealous animals that will only be wiped off the face of the Earth unless they clean up their acts. Theres a reason the bible was rewritten as it was, theres a reason Christian religion is being changed, theres a reason the Crusades aren't happening to this day. Be passionate but don't let it get to the point of insulting someone who can be saved, maybe I am getting it wrong but is forgiveness and love something we are supposed to do? I understand some don't deserve it, but we should not stoop to the level of some of the heretics, this forum and its people provide enough proof that reason and common HUMAN sense are NOT something Christians tend to practice and the rest of the Christian population suffers cause of the actions of the few. (namely people such as those that appear on this forum.)

Ok. some interesting points. If you read the Bible many of the people of the day broke the law. Did Moses follow the law of Egypt when he released the chosen people. The Pharaoh despised Moses because he was breaking the law and not follow his commands. Moses stood fast and followed what God had asked him to do. Even Jesus had broken laws.

Also people come here just to mock the Lord, is this right? Should they be allowed to get away with it just because it is a Christian forum.

While Christianity may be losing members, should Christians just give up. Why should we not fight for God like people in the Bible. Surely they have set an example to follow. Should we allow False Gods like God asked us not to allow. Do you think Islam is happy with Christianity. No. They do not believe Jesus was the Son of God. Do Islamic countries allow Christians to live there lives, no. They must follow Islamic laws even if it goes against God. Islamic countries make Christians pay extra taxes, just because they are Christian. They are forced to wear Islamic clothing to hide their following of the Lord.

[Raine Amorie]

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Ok. some interesting points. If you read the Bible many of the people of the day broke the law. Did Moses follow the law of Egypt when he released the chosen people. The Pharaoh despised Moses because he was breaking the law and not follow his commands. Moses stood fast and followed what God had asked him to do. Even Jesus had broken laws.

Also people come here just to mock the Lord, is this right? Should they be allowed to get away with it just because it is a Christian forum.

While Christianity may be losing members, should Christians just give up. Why should we not fight for God like people in the Bible. Surely they have set an example to follow. Should we allow False Gods like God asked us not to allow. Do you think Islam is happy with Christianity. No. They do not believe Jesus was the Son of God. Do Islamic countries allow Christians to live there lives, no. They must follow Islamic laws even if it goes against God. Islamic countries make Christians pay extra taxes, just because they are Christian. They are forced to wear Islamic clothing to hide their following of the Lord.

Your very much right but that is no reason for us to stoop to their level, we are not those heathens, we are more than that, God gave us free will for a reason. Thank you for the lovely conversation though, I will keep you in my prayers

[Bobby-Joe]

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Your very much right but that is no reason for us to stoop to their level, we are not those heathens, we are more than that, God gave us free will for a reason. Thank you for the lovely conversation though, I will keep you in my prayers

Well I think Lisa brings up a good point; what about evil atheists who go into church forums to mock Christians? What should be done about those people?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Anyways Ms (Or Mrs.!) Lisa I think it would better if I was just branded a heretic to this forum and have my named wiped from the roster, I just cannot agree with these people, maybe I am to forgiving or to nice but I just can't tolerate such..... intolerance that these people show and to have the gall to claim its in the name of God is just so....insane and I am even to go as far as to say blasphemous. They give God a bad name and only prove that Christians are insane zealots. I don't want to be associated with them less I lose any hope of converting others and bringing the true believers to the light.

What kind of hatefulness is this? You waltz in here uninvited, you don't tell us anything about yourself (outside of a false name) and then accuse us of being false Christians? I defy you to give me one example of racism or intolerance on this forum.

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[Raine Amorie]

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What kind of hatefulness is this? You waltz in here uninvited, you don't tell us anything about yourself (outside of a false name) and then accuse us of being false Christians? I defy you to give me one example of racism or intolerance on this forum.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

This is one of your closed posts labled as "noobs" please read this before posting, I cannot quote it cause the button does not exist on the page. It was posted by Jeb Thurmond and even though it DENIES the church is racist its loaded with racist comments and descriptions for other races.

Is This Church a Racist Organization?

No. We believe that God has a special place in society everyone, no matter how unintelligent and ugly they are.

What is the position in society of (insert race here)?

If your ancestors are: African
Your position in society is: Slave of slaves. Best segregated, as your curse might hurt others.
Because:
And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, [Father of Asians] and Ham, [father of blacks] and Japheth [father of Whites]: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants ("The lowest of slaves - New International Version) shall he be unto his brethren.
And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. - Genesis 9:18-27

If your ancestors are: Unmarried (within 10 generations)
Your position in society is: Same as under secularism, but you can't enter church.
Because: A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. - Deuteronomy 23:2

If your ancestors are: Greek
Your position in society is: Same as under secularism, but everybody knows you're literally a motherf*cker:
Because: It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. - 1 Corinthians 5:1 (there is sexual immorality among you...man has his father's wife - New International Version)

How do you know that the sons of Ham are blacks?

The Answers In Genesis Creation Museum says so:
AiG's

What about interracial/intercultural marriage?

God commands us against them:

Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. - Deuteronomy 7:3

But why? And can I at least have a foreign girlfriend or mistress?

No. Your black mistress will end up converting you to her "black Jesus" and Kawanzaa heresies:

But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh (who is African), women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites;
Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. -1st Kings 11:1-2

If they can even corrupt as Godly a man as King Solomon, imagine what they'll do to you!

Do you support segregation or integration?

God says integration leads to heresy:

And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites, Hittites, and Amorites, and Perizzites, and Hivites, and Jebusites:
And they took their daughters to be their wives, and gave their daughters to their sons, and served their gods.
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat the LORD their God, and served Baalim and the groves. - Judges 3:5-7

So if I can't live in the same neighborhoods as non-W.A.S.P.S., can I at least visit?

No. Even looking at them will mess you up: Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. - Proverbs 23:33

But black women are so attractive!

Some are, but that's rare:

I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.
Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: Song of Solomon 1:5-6

Is it even possible to re-segregate?

It is, and it's as important a part of Christianity as confessing your sins:

And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers. -Nehemiah 9:2


I'm of mixed-race, are my parents sinners?

Yes: The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.
For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass. - Ezra 9:1-2

Why are white people's genes holy?

Because God says so. See Ezra 9:1-2 above.

I know Africa is a mess, but it can change, right?

The Bible says you can take the blacks out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the blacks: Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. -Jeremiah 13:23

So what should our foreign policy towards Africa be?

Invade and exterminate. Also kill all the men of nations that are allied with African nations:

Ethiopia (old term for all of most of Africa), and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and Chub, and the men of the land that is in league, (African Union etc.) shall fall with them by the sword. - Ezekiel 30:5

Does God listen the prayers of Christians who aren't white Americans?

No, he doesn't want to listen to non-whites and non-Americans because he considers them dogs:

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs - Matthew 15:24-26

But how do you know Jesus is white?

First let's agree on these definitions:

Ruddy: rosy-cheeked, sunburnt
fair countenence: white face and facial features (nose is not hooked or flat, for example)

Jesus was a Nazarite:

Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies - Lamentations 4:7

Unless you're one of those perverts who believe that the Song of Solomon is pornography, you'll agree that the Song of Solomon is a prophecy predicting the love of Jesus. And here is Jesus described as being outstandingly ruddy among 10,000, that is, among the whitest 0.0001% of the population:

My lover is radiant and ruddy, outstanding among ten thousand - Song of Solomon 5:10

Jesus was descended from King David, also white, and who was a victim of anti-White racism:

And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance. - 1 Samuel 17:42

God chooses prophets and rulers of nations by simply choosing the white person:

Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, The LORD hath not chosen these.

And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither.
And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he. Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah. - 1 Samuel 16:10-13

Note that Hussien Obama is not ruddy.


Another example was to a rather nice girl who was only introducing herself, her english wasn't exactly her second language far as I could gather yet the very first post on her introduction was this.

Typical unsaved Dutchman trash -

Can't you put in a little more effort for Jesus ?...... Or are lying in an opium induced haze while five of your perverted countrymen take turns at afflicting your well worn Dutch rectum with their demon seed

Yet she did nothing to provoke this response.
Now here is my third example of intolerance, from you yourself.

#1) Find your "Shift" key and learn to properly capitalize proper nouns. I can't believe you're attending a university without the ability to speak God's favorite language (American).

#2) Roman Catholicism is not Christianity. Read THIS to learn the details.

Again said girl did nothing to provoke this all she did was say she attends a university and because she was Dutch its very likely English isn't her first language, you cannot except someone who didn't grow up speaking it to have it perfect yet instead it inspired those comments. I can keep digging up more from what I read about but this post is long enough as it is.