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  • Phebe Carlyle
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    Re: Intro !

    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Jesus was born in a miraculous manner. Agreed. But The New Testament mentions Jesus as the Son of man more than 80 times. Not as the son of God.
    PHHT! You are a liar!

    JESUS IS GOD
    JESUS IS THE TRUE GOD

    1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

    JESUS IS THE MESSIAH
    John 4:19 (KJV) The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
    John 4:20 (KJV) Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
    John 4:21 (KJV) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
    John 4:22 (KJV) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
    John 4:23 (KJV) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
    John 4:24 (KJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
    John 4:25 (KJV) The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
    John 4:26 (KJV) Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

    JESUS IS THE ‘I AM’
    John 8:51 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
    John 8:52 (KJV) Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
    John 8:53 (KJV) Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    John 8:54 (KJV) Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
    John 8:55 (KJV) Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
    John 8:56 (KJV) Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
    John 8:57 (KJV) Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
    John 8:58 (KJV) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    John 8:59 (KJV) Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

    JESUS IS THE FATHER
    John 10:22 (KJV) And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
    John 10:23 (KJV) And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
    John 10:24 (KJV) Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
    John 10:25 (KJV) Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
    John 10:26 (KJV) But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    John 10:27 (KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    John 10:28 (KJV) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    John 10:29 (KJV) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
    John 10:30 (KJV) I and my Father are one.
    John 10:31 (KJV) Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
    John 10:32 (KJV) Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
    John 10:33 (KJV) The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

    JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE
    John 14:4 (KJV) And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
    John 14:5 (KJV) Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
    John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    John 14:7 (KJV) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
    John 14:8 (KJV) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
    John 14:9 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
    John 14:10 (KJV) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
    John 14:11 (KJV) Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

    JESUS IS THE CHRIST
    Mark 14:55 (KJV) And the chief priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesus to put him to death; and found none.
    Mark 14:56 (KJV) For many bare false witness against him, but their witness agreed not together.
    Mark 14:57 (KJV) And there arose certain, and bare false witness against him, saying,
    Mark 14:58 (KJV) We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.
    Mark 14:59 (KJV) But neither so did their witness agree together.
    Mark 14:60 (KJV) And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?
    Mark 14:61 (KJV) But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
    Mark 14:62 (KJV) And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
    Mark 14:63 (KJV) Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
    Mark 14:64 (KJV) Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.



    Jesus IS God

    YIC

    Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Intro !

    Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
    I just gave you some Bible verses that clearly show Jesus is the Son of God. So why are you denying it.
    It's typical of unbelievers to deny what reality is when it conflicts with their personal opinions of what reality should be.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Intro !

    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Exactly where in your Bible does it say that America is God´s favored land?
    Not in so many words, but you're supposed to have reading comprehension when you read verses like the following:

    Luke 6:44: For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

    When you consider the fruit — being the world's most powerful country, having the biggest GDP of any country, and being the most Christian country — what does that say about the tree?

    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Jesus was born in a miraculous manner. Agreed. But The New Testament mentions Jesus as the Son of man more than 80 times. Not as the son of God.
    Actually, Mark's Gospel starts thus:

    Mark 1:1: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

    Then there is this famous verse, which even feel-good false Christians know by heart:

    John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    For more examples, just go to a Bible site and search for "God son." You'll see that even the devil recognized Jesus as the Son of God. Are you more lost even than the devil?

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  • Lisa H
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    Re: Intro !

    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Jesus was born in a miraculous manner. Agreed. But The New Testament mentions Jesus as the Son of man more than 80 times. Not as the son of God.
    I just gave you some Bible verses that clearly show Jesus is the Son of God. So why are you denying it.

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  • Ahmad_Deedat
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    Re: Intro !

    Jesus was born in a miraculous manner. Agreed. But The New Testament mentions Jesus as the Son of man more than 80 times. Not as the son of God.

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  • Jake Beck
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    So you admit you are a hot headed haji that wants to destory the best country in the world, America. Why would you want to do that? Oh and by the way we are crusading anywhere the Taliban or whatever started it by bombing us via airplanes and crashing them into our buildings first. We just retaliated. Not our fault "Allah" brainwashed you.

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  • Lisa H
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    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    No! We hurl the truth against falsehood, and truth obliterates it- see how falsehood vanishes away! Woe to you [people] for the way you describe God!

    Quran 21:18

    The Bible says, in the Book of Job 25:4

    "How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?"

    So anyone who is born of a woman is not to be compared with God.

    And the Bible goes on Job 25:5

    "Behold even to the moon, and it shines not; yes, the stars are not pure in his sight."

    How much less is man compared to moon and stars ?

    So no. I confess I do not believe Jesus to be divine or the son of God.
    The Bible is very clear that Jesus is the Son of God and born from Mary

    Matthew 1:18
    Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

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  • Ahmad_Deedat
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    Re: Intro !

    No! We hurl the truth against falsehood, and truth obliterates it- see how falsehood vanishes away! Woe to you [people] for the way you describe God!

    Quran 21:18

    The Bible says, in the Book of Job 25:4

    "How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?"

    So anyone who is born of a woman is not to be compared with God.

    And the Bible goes on Job 25:5

    "Behold even to the moon, and it shines not; yes, the stars are not pure in his sight."

    How much less is man compared to moon and stars ?

    So no. I confess I do not believe Jesus to be divine or the son of God.

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  • Lisa H
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    Re: Intro !

    Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God like the Bible tells us

    Matthew 3:16-17
    16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
    17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

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  • Ahmad_Deedat
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    In other words, you're an islamofascist who wants to destroy God's favorite country (AMERICA!), right?

    Why are you here?
    Merely to expand my religious horizon and mayhap help others do the same..

    Exactly where in your Bible does it say that America is God´s favored land?

    Originally posted by BelieverInGod
    Well here's a question none of your friends have been able to answer, why is it a death sentence to draw mohammad (hasn't always been, there's some nice middle ages drawings of him) whereas we can draw Jesus or Moses or Abraham all we want and you don't care?

    If they're all prophets, why the inequality?
    They are all equal indeed. You can draw any prophet you want though not in a condescending way. As you yourself point out, many middle age drawing exist and no fuss have been made over those.

    Originally posted by James DeWitt
    Welcome to our forum stranger. Park your camel and tell us how Jesus has touched you today.
    Jesus (praise be upon him) is in my thoughts almost daily..

    Originally posted by Wash O´Hanley
    This seems pretty suspicious.

    Finish this sentence: _______________ to America.
    Greetings ?


    Originally posted by Bobby-Joe
    Welcome to our forum my neo-pagan friend.

    Please tell us for what Christian church you would like to bomb and what Bible verse drives you suicidal rage?

    PS I forgive you as Christ commands me.
    Why would I wan´t to bomb anything ? It is the Christian world crusading and spreading Christianity (Democracy?) by the sword.

    I have no quarrels with any Christians. For as Allah tells us in 5:82

    "You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant."

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  • Phebe Carlyle
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    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Assalamu Aleikum..

    My name is "Ahmad Deedat"

    I´m 32. Married.

    I do love Jesus. Messenger of God.
    Hello,

    I for one are wondering what this Ahmad fellow did?

    Could you please clarify that for me?

    YIC

    Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

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  • Lisa H
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    Re: Intro !

    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Assalamu Aleikum..

    My name is "Ahmad Deedat"

    I´m 32. Married.

    I do love Jesus. Messenger of God.
    A cautious welcome to you Ahmad.

    I am glad you love Jesus, the Son of God.

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  • Warner S. Davidson
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    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Assalamu Aleikum..

    My name is "Ahmad Deedat"

    I´m 32. Married.

    I do love Jesus. Messenger of God.
    A tentative welcome to you

    I suspect that you are a very disillusioned mooslim seeking the real answers that only Jesus can furnish

    Good news friend as we can help you renounce Satan and discover our almighty Lord and help you become a True Christian(tm)

    Furthermore although you have a ridiculous Satanic name we can soon remedy this by baptizing you in the name of Christ

    Then you have a proper and Godly American name to be proud of such as Chuck, Chester, Zeb, or Tony


    Praise Jesus as we will save you friend

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  • Titus Templeton
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    Re: Intro !

    Nice a muselim! Take this welcome-gift my friend:





    Yummi yummi nice grilled pork

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  • Bobby-Joe
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    Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
    Assalamu Aleikum..

    My name is "Ahmad Deedat"

    I´m 32. Married.

    I do love Jesus. Messenger of God.
    Welcome to our forum my neo-pagan friend.

    Please tell us for what Christian church you would like to bomb and what Bible verse drives you suicidal rage?

    PS I forgive you as Christ commands me.

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