[lucky_star]

Re: Hello, newbie here

If you don't trust my people, then don't come running to us whenever you find out you have cancer or any other kind of disease. If God does everything according to you, then I guess praying will do the job.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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That is inhumane and sick. As a student of medicine, I would never do that kind of thing to a man. doctors only do it in order to save lives in case they had a tumor. But that is absolutely sick and twisted. It's even sicker to do it against their will. I look at you and I know deep inside, that there's no hope for mankind... And that is sad.

So you think chemical or physical castration of child-raping perverts is a bad idea. I guess that means you believe they should never be released from prison, since they continue to go out and rape more children if they're not castrated.

Yes?

Or do you think it's OK for them to rape children?

If you don't trust my people, then don't come running to us whenever you find out you have cancer or any other kind of disease. If God does everything according to you, then I guess praying will do the job.

Talk about hate!

Why is it you assume every physician is an atheist God-mocker like you?

[Gabriel Reproba]

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That is inhumane and sick. As a student of medicine, I would never do that kind of thing to a man. doctors only do it in order to save lives in case they had a tumor. But that is absolutely sick and twisted. It's even sicker to do it against their will. I look at you and I know deep inside, that there's no hope for mankind... And that is sad.

And for the other poster. I won't read the whole bible, don't be ridiculous. I have to read a great deal of medicine books, do you think I'd have time to read the whole thing? If you're trying to convince a non-believer you fail, because you're not practical. Telling people to read the whole bible would just turn them off immediately.

If you are not going to read God's laws before spouting off about them, what makes you better than any other pinhead reactionary who doesn't know a thing about what he is saying. You are a guest in our place of online worship. The LEAST you could do is remain civil and actually read at least a VERSE of the scripture that we are citing. If, after that, you still want to call us inhumane and crazy, then you HAVE to concede that ALL Christians are inhumane and crazy because even though there are alot of misguided fools following false Christian teachings out there (I am looking at you, Catholicks!) they all believe most of what we believe. Are you really saying that the billions of Christians o this planet are all inhumane and crazy for following God's law as laid out in teh Holy Bible?

[James Hutchins]

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Hey, you are the one who said you were too busy to read all the books.

Maybe no one should bother to follow all the traffic laws or and other law as it is 'just too much to comprehend'.

No time to read, but time to bash Christan's.

Funny, you do not even know what you are getting your bandages in a bunch about!

[lucky_star]

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Now you're starting to attack me? just pathetic, God-mocker? atheist? What's next? faggot? For your information I do believe in God, and I also believe there are many wrong things about you, just like you think there are many wrong things about me. That's why I try to shut you down from my life. I'm not a christian, I don't have a religion, but I think there's a God .And there are many doctors that are very conservative, I don't assume things as you misinterpreted. I just think it is ridiculous to think that science is wrong and then begging science to help you.

[lucky_star]

Re: Hello, newbie here

Hey, you are the one who said you were too busy to read all the books.

Maybe no one should bother to follow all the traffic laws or and other law as it is 'just too much to comprehend'.

No time to read, but time to bash Christan's.

Funny, you do not even know what you are getting your bandages in a bunch about!

Are you serious? Do all the teenagers that receive their permit read all the traffic laws? I certainly didn't when they gave me my license. And until now, no fines. And I didn't said it was just too much to comprehend. You just imply that because you think I'm stupid, but I'm not. I even think I'm smarter than you. haha

[Gabriel Reproba]

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If you don't trust my people, then don't come running to us whenever you find out you have cancer or any other kind of disease. If God does everything according to you, then I guess praying will do the job.

I hate to disappoint, but I am currently recovering from rectal cancer. Did I get all weepy and go to a oncologist? Heck no! They would want to pump me full or poison, then zap me with radiation and, finally, cut my body open and scoop out my guts!

Based on my faith healer's advice, I DID start a course of FolFox+Avastin for a few (6-7?) cycles, but he said it was just to show me how awful chemo was. Let me tell you, it sucked. Then he prayed for me and sent prayer requests to the whole LBC congregation.

After a while on the FolFox+Avastin, he then switched me to radiation to show me how bad that was. I did 25 doses plus 3 boosts over 6 weeks. THAT SUCKED TOO! He was right to tell me that I shouldn't do it. If I get cancer again, I am SKIPPING that part since Jesus obviously loves me.

Finally, to make sure all the praying worked, he kept sending me out to get scans like CTs and MRIs etc. After all the praying, they showed no metabolic uptake at all! JESUS BE PRAISED! Just to gather more evidence for our Journal of Medical Miracles, he had me work with a colo-rectal surgeon and a liver (did I tell you it was stage 4 rectal cancer that had spread to my liver) surgeon. They opened me up and confirmed what the Lord (and the scans) had told my healer. There was no cancer left in me. It was a miracle! The surgeons said that they would have to resect a bunch of stuff so that the insurance company would pay them and so they wouldn't lose their licenses, so I let them. Their "pathology" report on all the removed tissues and all the margins was completely negative. Surely a miracle if I have ever seen one.

So, as you can see, when we DO get cancer, we know it is the LORD'S plan and we don't go crying to doctors for "medicine!"

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Why all the hatred? I was thinking in turning into a christian. I thought christian people were kind and understanding. So I thought, well, I might give them an opportunity. So I came here... but then my hope was shattered as I read all the hatred, all the anger, all the murderous wishes. You people are the devil, I feel very sorry for you... You hide behind your books and beliefs, but whenever I look at you I see the devil underneath. I'm very disappointed... I thought I would find the truth... but that no more. I guess I'll try to find it somewhere else...

Hey kid; How is that an introduction? Why are you here? Did satan send you to spew hatred at us?

[lucky_star]

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LOL, you're the guy that sent me the infraction? I think freedom of speech is banned in this place. Don't worry, I've put you on my sh!tlist. And no... I don't know satan, don't be irrational.

[Gabriel Reproba]

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For your information I do believe in God...

I'm not a christian, I don't have a religion, but I think there's a God .

Maybe we started on the wrong foot. What do you believe about this god you think you believe in? More importantly, WHY do you believe what you believe. Does this god intervene in the universe? Does he dictate moral absolutes? Does he have a plan for you? Is there an afterlife? Did HE create all the billions of suffering humans on this planet? If so, why? If not, who did?

The Bible answers these questions and more in a clear, concise, and consistent manner. What are YOUR beliefs on these questions and where do they come from?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Now you're starting to attack me? just pathetic, God-mocker? atheist? What's next? faggot? For your information I do believe in God, and I also believe there are many wrong things about you, just like you think there are many wrong things about me. That's why I try to shut you down from my life. I'm not a christian, I don't have a religion, but I think there's a God .And there are many doctors that are very conservative, I don't assume things as you misinterpreted. I just think it is ridiculous to think that science is wrong and then begging science to help you.

You joined uninvited and unwelcome and attacked us, last I recall. Now you're going to play victim? How precious.

If you "think there's a God", why are you too busy to read His Word? Wouldn't that be the single most important thing on your mind? Wouldn't you want to know all about Him, and how you could please (and not offend) Him?

As for "thinking science is wrong and then begging science to help you", there are different areas of science. Science is not some monolith.

Some scientists study God's creation to figure out how it works, and how to help people when they get sick. They look at the amazing viruses God has created, and find ways to control them so they don't hurt people. They also wonder at other parts of Creation, like electricity, and light waves.

Then there are scientists who work constantly to deny God's existence. Shouldn't you hate them, since you declare belief in God? They are calling YOU ignorant just as much as they call US ignorant.

[Gabriel Reproba]

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LOL, you're the guy that sent me the infraction? I think freedom of speech is banned in this place. Don't worry, I've put you on my sh!tlist. And no... I don't know satan, don't be irrational.

Please, learn to use the "QUOTE" button so we can figure out which post you are responding to.

PS: You still have not conceded that all of our beliefs are supported by the Holy Bible. Will you at least concede that much? If not, can you point to one claim made by a True Christian on this forum that is false according to the Good Book?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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LOL, you're the guy that sent me the infraction? I think freedom of speech is banned in this place.

The US Constitution guarantees that the GOVERNMENT will not infringe upon your right to free expression.

This is not a GOVERNMENT site. This is a privately-owned, Christian church's website.

You have no more "right" to come here and attack us and our beliefs than I have the "right" to march into your house and urinate on your cat. Sure, some "artists" might consider that free expression, but that doesn't mean it's constitutionally protected free speech.

You are a guest here. An unwelcome, uninvited, and barely tolerated guest. Please behave as you would if you were standing in a church of which you are not a member; in the virtual sense, you are.

A little class is all we ask. I realize that's a challenge for atheists, and we appreciate your efforts.

Thank you.

[lucky_star]

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You joined uninvited and unwelcome and attacked us, last I recall. Now you're going to play victim? How precious.

If you "think there's a God", why are you too busy to read His Word? Wouldn't that be the single most important thing on your mind? Wouldn't you want to know all about Him, and how you could please (and not offend) Him?

As for "thinking science is wrong and then begging science to help you", there are different areas of science. Science is not some monolith.

Some scientists study God's creation to figure out how it works, and how to help people when they get sick. They look at the amazing viruses God has created, and find ways to control them so they don't hurt people. They also wonder at other parts of Creation, like electricity, and light waves.

Then there are scientists who work constantly to deny God's existence. Shouldn't you hate them, since you declare belief in God? They are calling YOU ignorant just as much as they call US ignorant.

Now I'm uninvited unwelcome... Ok, I'll write that down. Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it.

Does this god intervene in the universe?
No, he just watches...
Does he dictate moral absolutes?
Of course he does...
Does he have a plan for you?
Yes, he has a plan for everyone
Is there an afterlife?
Yes.
Did HE create all the billions of suffering humans on this planet?
The suffering comes from human ignorance and evilness.

I don't know where those answers come from, that's just what I believe. I don't take time to read the Bible because I'm not a christian... Just the way I don't read the Qur'an.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Now I'm uninvited unwelcome... Ok, I'll write that down. Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it.

Does this god intervene in the universe?
No, he just watches...
Does he dictate moral absolutes?
Of course he does...
Does he have a plan for you?
Yes, he has a plan for everyone
Is there an afterlife?
Yes.
Did HE create all the billions of suffering humans on this planet?
The suffering comes from human ignorance and evilness.

I don't know where those answers come from, that's just what I believe. I don't take time to read the Bible because I'm not a christian... Just the way I don't read the Qur'an.

This is a Christian forum. Why are you here?