[Janine Walker]

Re: Hi!

Hi everyone! Call me Butterfly!

I am a girl, I live on a farm, I love country music, playing guitar and riding horses, I like to draw, I like writing songs, and sometimes just laying outside and staring at the stars.

I am Wiccan, and I'm interested in learning about Christianity from some actual Christians.

I promise I won't argue with anyone!

My dad says you can come stay with us and learn how to become a Christian under a few conditions.
1. You will not wear pants but a dress
2. No guitar because you likely are a fan of devil music
3. No drawing because you are likely an artist of the devil
4. No writing songs unless they are about the love of God
5. Laying around for men outside is unhealthy, non of that
6. You cannot wear a pointy hat or touch our broom
7. You must be baptized by our Pastor
8. NO DRUG USE OF ANY KIND
9. You can't be colored(we're not racists, just a no) unless you are Mexican and willing to work long hours
10. You must be willing to scrub the floors daily and help me do the dishes. There's also plenty of other lady choirs around the house such as doing the laundry
11. Bible reading two times a day minimum and you go to church with us twice a week

I'm sure there's a few things I forgot to cover but for the most part we're a loving Christian home. We may not be in Landover but we're not too far away(in distance.)

If you can't afford a bus ticket just steal and then when you get here you can repent for your sins to Jesus.

I'm really looking forward to having a sister even if she a harlot for now but every person can change when they surrender themselves to JESUS!

With loving open arms for you, Janine Walker

P.S. there's horses next door you can come ride

P.P.S. We live in Plano Illinois, give me a pm and I will give you the address

[~Butterfly_Wings~]

Re: Hi!

So why do you kill plants then, They are living creatures.

By "Unless its necessary" I mean things like hunting as a sport. I hunt because its cheaper then buying meat, but we use the entire animal, either for food or clothes.

Why do you want to go to HELL
Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


He is the Son of God, that is enough
Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Hmm..
So that's what you guys believe, huh? That's cool.

You expect me to believe this kind of baloney? I'm sure you and your lesbian friends are having a good laugh at all of this.

Its not baloney, and I don't have any lesbian friends.

My dad says you can come stay with us and learn how to become a Christian under a few conditions.
1. You will not wear pants but a dress
2. No guitar because you likely are a fan of devil music
3. No drawing because you are likely an artist of the devil
4. No writing songs unless they are about the love of God
5. Laying around for men outside is unhealthy, non of that
6. You cannot wear a pointy hat or touch our broom
7. You must be baptized by our Pastor
8. NO DRUG USE OF ANY KIND
9. You can't be colored(we're not racists, just a no) unless you are Mexican and willing to work long hours
10. You must be willing to scrub the floors daily and help me do the dishes. There's also plenty of other lady choirs around the house such as doing the laundry
11. Bible reading two times a day minimum and you go to church with us twice a week

I'm sure there's a few things I forgot to cover but for the most part we're a loving Christian home. We may not be in Landover but we're not too far away(in distance.)

If you can't afford a bus ticket just steal and then when you get here you can repent for your sins to Jesus.

I'm really looking forward to having a sister even if she a harlot for now but every person can change when they surrender themselves to JESUS!

With loving open arms for you, Janine Walker

P.S. there's horses next door you can come ride

P.P.S. We live in Plano Illinois, give me a pm and I will give you the address

1. I wear jeans because its practically IMPOSSIBLE to ride a horse in a skirt. I wear skirts and dresses to when I'm not working anyway.
2. Not devil music, I hate rock or rap or basically anything except country.
3. When I draw, its usually sketches of my horses.
4. My songs are usually about Wicca.
5. I don't lay outside for men, I lay outside at night because the sky is so pretty.
6. I don't wear hats much, except my black fedora.
7. I'm interesting in learning about Christians, not becoming a Christian.
8. I hate drugs.
9. I'm white, although that's completely irrelevent.
10. I scrub floors, do dishes, take care of 12 horses, feed chickens, and milk 4 cows before breakfast every morning.
11. Sounds interesting.

I appreciate the offer, but sadly I have too much work to do on the farm. Thank you, to you and your family, but I just can't go.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hi!

Wiccans believe in a God and a Goddess. God's symbol is the sun, Goddess's is the moon. We believe that a balance of the two is needed to live a happy life. Also, God represents the hunt and death, and Goddess represents fertility and birth. That is a short summary, without going into detail about holidays and such.

Where did you learn about Wicca from?

Haha, that's funny.

Although some Wiccans perform rituals naked, not all do. I wear normal clothes (jeans and a shirt).

Why do some Wiccans perform their rituals naked? Similarly, why don't you? Are the naked ones more devoted to your false religion than you are?

By "Unless its necessary" I mean things like hunting as a sport. I hunt because its cheaper then buying meat, but we use the entire animal, either for food or clothes.

You do realise that you don't have to eat meat in order to survive? When you kill those animals, you're not doing it because it's necessary, you're doing it because you want to.

4. My songs are usually about Wicca.

How much is there to say about your nonsensical cult?

7. I'm interesting in learning about Christians, not becoming a Christian.

Are you a spy?

[Lisa H]

Re: Hi!

By "Unless its necessary" I mean things like hunting as a sport. I hunt because its cheaper then buying meat, but we use the entire animal, either for food or clothes.

So do you pick flowers to put in a vase?
If you do then you are not using them for survival.

[~Butterfly_Wings~]

Re: Hi!

So do you pick flowers to put in a vase?
If you do then you are not using them for survival.

No, I don't pick them. They are just as pretty growing outside the windows then they are in a vase on the other side of the glass.

Where did you learn about Wicca from?

Some friends who were raised Wiccan.

Why do some Wiccans perform their rituals naked? Similarly, why don't you? Are the naked ones more devoted to your false religion than you are?

It is because some people believe that you can absorb natural energies without clothing. I wear clothes because I go to festivals dedicated to Wiccan holidays, and not wearing clothes would be very inappropriate.

You do realise that you don't have to eat meat in order to survive? When you kill those animals, you're not doing it because it's necessary, you're doing it because you want to.

We believe that God and Goddess gave us animals to guide us and help us, and to feed us. God, a.k.a. THE GOD OF THE HUNT, encourages people to eat meat, as long as the animal is not killed for fun.

How much is there to say about your nonsensical cult?

Are you a spy?

[~Butterfly_Wings~]

Re: Hi!

How much is there to say about your nonsensical cult?

We have holidays.

Samhain (Oct. 31) - Showing respect to the spirits of those who have died.
Imbolc (Feb. 2) - Celebrating the rebirth of life and the coming of spring.
Beltane (May 1) - Also celebrating springtime and life.
Lughnasadh (July 31) - Celebrating the beginning of the harvest.
Yule (Dec. 21) - When the days stop becoming shorter, and begin to become longer.
Ostara (March 21) - When night (Goddess) and day (God) stand in perfect balance.
Litha (June 21) - The opposite of Yule - the longest day, and the day when nights become longer.
Mabon (Sept. 21) - The ending of the harvest.

Are you a spy?

No.

[Janine Walker]

Re: Hi!

How can you say a girl has "too much work" to do? It isn't possible.

You need a good Christian man to discipline you and teach you the Christian ways. My dad is a great choice for that. He can have you on your knees every night for the Lord, and he will teach you how to ride a horse in a dress. I can help teach you not to be such a harlot willing to give herself up to any plant she finds.

At the very least, give us a visit once.. please a soul saved is a soul that I will know in Heaven.


Janine Walker

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hi!

Some friends who were raised Wiccan.

How do they know about the "god and goddess"? Why did their views seem convincing to you? What evidence do you have for the truth of their beliefs?

It is because some people believe that you can absorb natural energies without clothing. I wear clothes because I go to festivals dedicated to Wiccan holidays, and not wearing clothes would be very inappropriate.

But are you not worrying about blocking the natural energies you could be absorbing? Alternately, do you believe that the nudists are wackos?

We believe that God and Goddess gave us animals to guide us and help us, and to feed us. God, a.k.a. THE GOD OF THE HUNT, encourages people to eat meat, as long as the animal is not killed for fun.

So, THE GOD OF THE HUNT is in favour of HUNTING, as long as you don't enjoy it? Killing a baby calf because you enjoy eating veal is A-OK, killing a baby calf because you enjoy it is strictly forbidden? You do realise how totally arbitrary this is, right?

We have holidays.

Samhain (Oct. 31) - Showing respect to the spirits of those who have died.
Imbolc (Feb. 2) - Celebrating the rebirth of life and the coming of spring.
Beltane (May 1) - Also celebrating springtime and life.
Lughnasadh (July 31) - Celebrating the beginning of the harvest.
Yule (Dec. 21) - When the days stop becoming shorter, and begin to become longer.
Ostara (March 21) - When night (Goddess) and day (God) stand in perfect balance.
Litha (June 21) - The opposite of Yule - the longest day, and the day when nights become longer.
Mabon (Sept. 21) - The ending of the harvest.

That's all there is to say about your stupid made-up religion? Friend, I could fit all of that into a minute-long song, and it would still be boring. Give it up.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hi!

We have holidays.

Samhain (Oct. 31) - Showing respect to the spirits of those who have died. [Edit: God tells us that the dead are dead and have no interest in us or our sorrows - see Ecclesiastes ]
Imbolc (Feb. 2) - Celebrating the rebirth of life and the coming of spring.
Beltane (May 1) - Also celebrating springtime and life.
Lughnasadh (July 31) - Celebrating the beginning of the harvest.
Yule (Dec. 21) - When the days stop becoming shorter, and begin to become longer.
Ostara (March 21) - When night (Goddess) and day (God) stand in perfect balance. [Edit: as opposed to the days when they are pissed and fall over]
Litha (June 21) - The opposite of Yule - the longest day, and the day when nights become longer.
Mabon (Sept. 21) - The ending of the harvest. [edit: probably a busy day in any big city in 21st century... ]



No.

I bet they play havoc with your spell checker - you know, the one you use to check your spells...

[~Butterfly_Wings~]

Re: Hi!

How can you say a girl has "too much work" to do? It isn't possible.

You need a good Christian man to discipline you and teach you the Christian ways. My dad is a great choice for that. He can have you on your knees every night for the Lord, and he will teach you how to ride a horse in a dress. I can help teach you not to be such a harlot willing to give herself up to any plant she finds.

At the very least, give us a visit once.. please a soul saved is a soul that I will know in Heaven.


Janine Walker

By "too much work" I mean that I can't just leave. I have 12 horses to take care of, several teams of sled dogs, chickens, cows, sheep and goats. I also scrub floors, do dishes, so laundery, cook meals, and take care of my little brothers. My parents are usually too busy getting drunk to do anything, so its up to me to take care of the house.

I will if visit if I can. Thanks for trying to help me, I really appreciate it.

How do they know about the "god and goddess"? Why did their views seem convincing to you? What evidence do you have for the truth of their beliefs?

I just believe in it. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, or say your religion is wrong, I just believe in something different.

But are you not worrying about blocking the natural energies you could be absorbing? Alternately, do you believe that the nudists are wackos?

No. The nudists are just a little neurotic. I'm more laid-back about it.

So, THE GOD OF THE HUNT is in favour of HUNTING, as long as you don't enjoy it? Killing a baby calf because you enjoy eating veal is A-OK, killing a baby calf because you enjoy it is strictly forbidden? You do realise how totally arbitrary this is, right?

Killing a baby calf and enjoying it is ok, AS LONG AS THE ANIMAL IS EATEN. As long as the living creature is eaten or used for clothing, everything's cool.

That's all there is to say about your stupid made-up religion? Friend, I could fit all of that into a minute-long song, and it would still be boring. Give it up.

No offence, but in my opinion, those Christmas carols you guys sing are pretty boring. Listen to this, you have to admit its pretty funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzRPoUxZLE

I bet they play havoc with your spell checker - you know, the one you use to check your spells...

We don't cast spells, our rituals are for worship, nothing else. You are confusing Wicca for Voodoo.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hi!

I just believe in it. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, or say your religion is wrong, I just believe in something different.

Why would you come to a discussion forum and start talking about your religion if you're not willing to discuss it?

No. The nudists are just a little neurotic. I'm more laid-back about it.

So are the nudists doing something pointless or are they doing something useful by taking their clothes off? It has to be one or the other.

Killing a baby calf and enjoying it is ok, AS LONG AS THE ANIMAL IS EATEN. As long as the living creature is eaten or used for clothing, everything's cool.

This is not a consistent moral standpoint. According to you, if I kill a baby calf because I get sadistic pleasure from doing so, that makes me a bad person. But, if my brother who loves beef happens to drop by my apartment filled with dead animal carcases and I give one to him as a present, that cancels it all out and makes it fine. What if I kill some animals because that's how I get my rocks off and then grudgingly eat them afterwards so as not to upset your stupid made-up demon god, is that OK or not?

We don't cast spells, our rituals are for worship, nothing else. You are confusing Wicca for Voodoo.

Quite a few sources disagree with you.

[Janine Walker]

Re: Hi!

By "too much work" I mean that I can't just leave. I have 12 horses to take care of, several teams of sled dogs, chickens, cows, sheep and goats. I also scrub floors, do dishes, so laundery, cook meals, and take care of my little brothers. My parents are usually too busy getting drunk to do anything, so its up to me to take care of the house.

I will if visit if I can. Thanks for trying to help me, I really appreciate it.

We will gladly take the 12 horses off your hands if they are too much. There is a glue factory fifteen miles south that buys horses for $140 dollars per. I'm not sure how you'll go about getting the horses here but consider the money we get from your horses a token of gratitude.

We could also use some young boys here because my little brother is quite replaceable considering he is often defying the word of the Lord. My dad is quite a role model and we look forward to you bringing your horses and little brothers here. Just so you know though they will be properly disciplined by my dad and they will have to get familiar with the word of the Lord.

I look forward to seeing you! Janine Walker