From the Isle of the false gods...

[Belly_Mower]

... comes a simple pagan.

Greetings. I trust you all are well.

Yes, I am a pagan. Specifically, I worship the old gods of Britain. Before anyone decides to burn me at the stake, allow me to explain why I am here.

My fiancée is an Orthodox Christian, and she and I have had many interesting discussions on faith, how ours differ from each other, how they are similar, and things like that.

I didn't join this forum to start an argument, or to troll. I merely wish to gain other Christians opinions on your God, the Bible and your faith in general.

Stay well.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

Not come here to mock or troll??? De:33:29: Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the LORD, the shield of thy help, and who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee; and thou shalt tread upon their high places.

There are no "old gods of Britain". If there had been all you Brits wouldn't have buck teeth. You are not only deluded, you have gone out of your way to become deluded. This is the spiritual equivalent to marching into the forest to find a bigger stick to hit yourself with.

Pull yourself together you rabid idiot!
Proverb:17:4: A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue.

I never thought I would say this, but your denial of God means I shall ask your fiancée to approve all your future messages.

[Belly_Mower]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

There are no "old gods of Britain". If there had been all you Brits wouldn't have buck teeth. You are not only deluded, you have gone out of your way to become deluded. This is the spiritual equivalent to marching into the forest to find a bigger stick to hit yourself with.

There are old gods of Britain. My faith has a longer history than yours. Yes, they have less power than they used to, but they are no less real. As a side note, please don't insult my country or my fellow countrymen, as I will refrain from insulting yours.

I never thought I would say this, but your denial of God means I shall ask your fiancée to approve all your future messages.

I never said that your God does not exist. Quite the opposite in fact. It is my firm belief that all gods exist and depending on which one(s) you worship determines the afterlife you go to. You all believe you will go to Heaven, while I believe that my soul will cross the Bridge of Swords to the Otherworld.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

There are old gods of Britain. My faith has a longer history than yours.

That my deluded friend, is impossible - God created the Earth 6,000 years ago. Your gods were nowhere until some druid ate some rancid sheep's cheese and started seeing things

Yes, they have less power than they used to,

How can you have less than none?

As a side note, please don't insult my country or my fellow countrymen,

That wasn't an insult, insults are never true.

as I will refrain from insulting yours.

I can think of nothing blameworthy that a true American might have done.

I never said that your God does not exist. Quite the opposite in fact. It is my firm belief that all gods exist and depending on which one(s) you worship determines the afterlife you go to.

You just made that up didn't you? You have absolutely no way of showing a morsel of truth in that vacuous statement. Are you allowed to vote?

... while I believe that my soul will cross the Bridge of Swords to the Otherworld.

Is that with or without the Tin-Man, the Lion and Judy Garland?

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:1-22

[Brother Temperance]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

... comes a simple pagan.

That's the most common kind. Sophisticated pagans and intelligent pagans are very rare breed.

Yes, I am a pagan. Specifically, I worship the old gods of Britain.

My fiancée is an Orthodox Christian, and she and I have had many interesting discussions on faith, how ours differ from each other, how they are similar, and things like that.

Neither of you are True Christians.

I didn't join this forum to start an argument, or to troll. I merely wish to gain other Christians opinions on your God, the Bible and your faith in general.

Stay well.

My opinions on God, the Bible, and my faith in general are all positive, surprisingly enough. Is there anything else you want to know?

There are old gods of Britain. My faith has a longer history than yours.

No it doesn't. Your faith's history ended in about 655, or started in about 1954, depending on your perspective. Either way, it's not that long.

Yes, they have less power than they used to, but they are no less real.

Friend, your false gods are useless. If they used to be so powerful, why couldn't they do anything to protect their followers against the Christians?

I never said that your God does not exist. Quite the opposite in fact. It is my firm belief that all gods exist and depending on which one(s) you worship determines the afterlife you go to. You all believe you will go to Heaven, while I believe that my soul will cross the Bridge of Swords to the Otherworld.

The afterlife will be a pretty crowded place with all these different worlds. I believe that you will get halfway across the Bridge of Swords before Jesus' mighty fist smashes you down and you get sliced and diced before tumbling down into Hell.

[Didymus Much]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

...It is my firm belief that all gods exist and depending on which one(s) you worship determines the afterlife you go to...

So let's say you decide to worship a new god tomorrow, Bing! a new god and "afterlife" pop into existence. That makes you a Creator God. You're worshipping yourself (or your delusions, if you prefer to think of it that way) and you are insane.

[Belly_Mower]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

That my deluded friend, is impossible - God created the Earth 6,000 years ago. Your god's were nowhere until some druid ate some rancid sheep's cheese and started seeing things

Do you have an exact date for that? Can I also point out that it is firmly believed by Historians and Bible scholars that Jesus spent some of his teenage years learning from the Druids, to better understand our faith.

That wasn't an insult, insults are never true. I can think of nothing blameworthy that a true American might have done.

Ah, I see. So, if I said that the Southern part of the USA was full of inbred, bible-humping slack-jawed idiots with all the intelligence of a lobotomised rat, you wouldn't be insulted?

You just made that up didn't you? You have absolutely no way of showing a morsel of truth in that vacuous statement. Are you allowed to vote?

There is lots of Lore to support the idea that gods from various faiths co-exist. And not that it matters, but yes I am allowed to vote, but I choose not to, as I am a Monarchist.

Is that with or without the Tin-Man, the Lion and Judy Garland?

That depends.You you intend to spend eternity sat around on a cloud wearing a dress and learning to play the harp?

[Belly_Mower]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

So let's say you decide to worship a new god tomorrow, Bing! a new god and "afterlife" pop into existence. That makes you a Creator God. You're worshipping yourself (or your delusions, if you prefer to think of it that way) and you are insane.

Only if the god you worship is made up by your own mind.

[Didymus Much]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

Only if the god you worship is made up by your own mind.

Moving the goalposts = You lose.

[Stella LaForte]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

Only if the god you worship is made up by your own mind.

There is only one God. All others are false idols and figments of your psychotic imagination.

Samuel 22:32*For who is God, save the Lord? And who is a rock, save our God?

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

Only if the god you worship is made up by your own mind.

Uh huh, and how exactly do you know the "old gods of Britain" are any more real than one somebody decides to make up? There is exactly the same amount of empirical evidence of your 60-year old gods as there is of one I hypothetically decide to make up and start worshiping, save for the number of followers.

Unless, of course, Cernunnos has been going around throwing bricks through the windows of UK atheists recently and I haven't heard about it.

[Stella LaForte]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

Uh huh, and how exactly do you know the "old gods of Britain" are any more real than one somebody decides to make up? There is exactly the same amount of empirical evidence of your 60-year old gods as there is of one I hypothetically decide to make up and start worshiping, save for the number of followers.

Unless, of course, Cernunnos has been going around throwing bricks through the windows of UK atheists recently and I haven't heard about it.

Very well said! It's obvious that all other gods are simply false, be they Zeus, Thor, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Exodus 8:10 So he said, “Tomorrow.” And he said, “Let it be according to your word, that you may know that there is no one like the Lord our God.

[Belly_Mower]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

That's the most common kind. Sophisticated pagans and intelligent pagans are very rare breed.

I beg to differ. I consider myself to be rather intelligent, having quite a substantial knowledge of dark age/medieval weapons, armour, and general warfare.

Neither of you are True Christians.

Just so we are clear, what do you define as a "True" Christian

No it doesn't. Your faith's history ended in about 655, or started in about 1954, depending on your perspective. Either way, it's not that long.

Wicca started in 1954 and is very different to my faith. I can give you a history lesson if you like.

Friend, your false gods are useless. If they used to be so powerful, why couldn't they do anything to protect their followers against the Christians?

Because the gods will not do anything for us that we cannot do ourselves. My gods are primarily gods of nature, not of man.

The afterlife will be a pretty crowded place with all these different worlds. I believe that you will get halfway across the Bridge of Swords before Jesus' mighty fist smashes you down and you get sliced and diced before tumbling down into Hell.

Do you truly believe that heaven is a physical place? That Yaweh is sat on a cloud? What happens if it's a clear day? Does Heaven disappear?

[Belly_Mower]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

Uh huh, and how exactly do you know the "old gods of Britain" are any more real than one somebody decides to make up? There is exactly the same amount of empirical evidence of your 60-year old gods as there is of one I hypothetically decide to make up and start worshiping, save for the number of followers.

Unless, of course, Cernunnos has been going around throwing bricks through the windows of UK atheists recently and I haven't heard about it.

It's the same thing as believing that God is real. It is called faith.

To say that a certain deity exist merely because it says so, is a childish, playground argument, that I am sure that well-educated adults can avoid.

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: From the Isle of the gods...

It's the same thing as believing that God is real. It is called faith.

To say that a certain deity exist merely because it says so, is a childish, playground argument, that I am sure that well-educated adults can avoid.

And what makes a hypothetical deity with a single worshiper any less real than a deity with numerous worshipers? Frankly, I'm a little disappointed that you claim to believe that all gods co-exist and yet you refuse to acknowledge the existence of the hypothetical deity in the thought experiment.

Or can you show me a clearly demarcated line where the number of worshipers influences whether a god exists or not?