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  • #16
    Re: From the Isle of the gods...

    Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
    It's the same thing as believing that God is real. It is called faith.

    To say that a certain deity exist merely because it says so, is a childish, playground argument, that I am sure that well-educated adults can avoid.
    *sighs*... Perhaps these passages from the KJV1611 will help you understand.

    Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, And there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: Neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

    2 Samuel 7:22 Wherefore thou art great, O Lord God: for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

    1 Kings 8:60 That all the people of the earth may know that the Lord is God, and that there is none else.

    2 Kings 19:15 And Hezekiah prayed before the Lord, and said, O Lord God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

    1 Chronicles 17:20 O Lord, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

    Jude 25 to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
    1 Timothy 2:11-15
    Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

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    • #17
      Re: From the Isle of the gods...

      Originally posted by Ravel Puzzlewell View Post
      And what makes a hypothetical deity with a single worshiper any less real than a deity with numerous worshipers? Frankly, I'm a little disappointed that you claim to believe that all gods co-exist and yet you refuse to acknowledge the existence of the hypothetical deity in the thought experiment.

      Or can you show me a clearly demarcated line where the number of worshipers influences whether a god exists or not?
      Sorry, I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to... Perhaps you could clarify for me?
      Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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      • #18
        Re: From the Isle of the gods...

        Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
        I beg to differ. I consider myself to be rather intelligent, having quite a substantial knowledge of dark age/medieval weapons, armour, [...].
        Could you explain the correlation between knowing about outmoded and impractical weaponry and intelligence? Surely an intelligent person would be out there buying and selling goats or studying something that was valuable to society?

        and general warfare
        You'll get on well with God - Ex:15:3: The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

        At least for the short time that you stand before His Judgement Throne, you will have something to talk about.
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        • #19
          Re: From the Isle of the gods...

          Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
          Sorry, I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to... Perhaps you could clarify for me?
          I think what that babbling heathen is trying to say is that there is exactly the same amount of evidence for the existence of your Britistani gods as there are for one somebody decides to make up, and rejecting one or the other is due to personal bias alone.

          Of course, that's a silly and convoluted explanation. A much simpler one is that it is Satan trying to lead you away from Jesus and Salvation.

          "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils." 1 Corinthians 10:20

          "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" 1 Timothy 4:1
          "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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          • #20
            Re: From the Isle of the gods...

            Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
            Could you explain the correlation between knowing about outmoded and impractical weaponry and intelligence? Surely an intelligent person would be out there buying and selling goats or studying something that was valuable to society?
            I would hardly call swords impractical. During their day they were the king of weapons, and still hold a very special place in our society.

            And the main reason I study that period of history is because I find the 20th and 21st centuries rather dull. As soon as swords lost their place on the battlefield, war lost its honour.
            Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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            • #21
              Re: From the Isle of the gods...

              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
              Do you have an exact date for that? Can I also point out that it is firmly believed by Historians and Bible scholars that Jesus spent some of his teenage years learning from the Druids, to better understand our faith.
              Do you have a source for that? Also, do you know the difference between the Middle East and Britain?
              Ah, I see. So, if I said that the Southern part of the USA was full of inbred, bible-humping slack-jawed idiots with all the intelligence of a lobotomised rat, you wouldn't be insulted?
              There is no place for that kind of ugly racism on our forums.
              There is lots of Lore to support the idea that gods from various faiths co-exist.
              Tosh and nonsense. Cite some reliable evidence to support your implausibly stupid view, please.
              And not that it matters, but yes I am allowed to vote, but I choose not to, as I am a Monarchist.
              Did I mention ?
              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
              Only if the god you worship is made up by your own mind.
              What, whereas worshipping a god made up by the mind of a long-dead primitive fool is so much more valid?
              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
              I beg to differ. I consider myself to be rather intelligent, having quite a substantial knowledge of dark age/medieval weapons, armour, and general warfare.
              Exactly the kind of practical skills that today's employer is looking for.
              Just so we are clear, what do you define as a "True" Christian
              One who follows God's commands. One who is saved and not going to Hell. The Orthodox cult are all doomed.
              Wicca started in 1954 and is very different to my faith. I can give you a history lesson if you like.
              Let's see, does it go something like this: Britain was overrun with pagan scum, then the Godly Christians arrived and destroyed or converted them all, and the pagan gods did nothing to prevent this from happening because they don't actually exist?
              Because the gods will not do anything for us that we cannot do ourselves.
              How can you tell the difference between a god that doesn't do anything and a god that doesn't exist?
              Do you truly believe that heaven is a physical place? That Yaweh is sat on a cloud? What happens if it's a clear day? Does Heaven disappear?
              Duh. Heaven's not in the sky, it's above the sky. You know, up above the blue stuff. Think about it.
              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
              It's the same thing as believing that God is real. It is called faith.

              To say that a certain deity exist merely because it says so, is a childish, playground argument, that I am sure that well-educated adults can avoid.
              OK, give us your rational, logical, adult argument for the existence of your stupid, pathetic false god.
              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
              Sorry, I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to... Perhaps you could clarify for me?
              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
              I consider myself to be rather intelligent.

              I would hardly call swords impractical. During their day they were the king of weapons, and still hold a very special place in our society.
              Enlighten me as to what that very special place is.
              And the main reason I study that period of history is because I find the 20th and 21st centuries rather dull. As soon as swords lost their place on the battlefield, war lost its honour.
              What do you think of the Rwandan genocide? Machetes played a major role in that, is that honourable enough for you? Or is Genghis Khan more the level of honour that you look up to?
              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



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              • #22
                Re: From the Isle of the gods...

                Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
                ... comes a simple pagan.

                Greetings. I trust you all are well.

                Yes, I am a pagan. Specifically, I worship the old gods of Britain. Before anyone decides to burn me at the stake, allow me to explain why I am here.
                This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold. I hurl it at you and your coven NOWNOWNOW in the Holy name of JESUS!

                Father,
                In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my church and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

                Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

                In Jesus name I pray..
                Amen
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                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                • #23
                  Re: From the Isle of the gods...

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  Do you have a source for that? Also, do you know the difference between the Middle East and Britain?
                  Erm, yes. Bt

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  There is no place for that kind of ugly racism on our forums.
                  I see. So why is calling people of Oriental decent 'chinks' allowed? Why is calling people of Arabian persuasion 'towel heads' allowed? Why saying that all British people have buck teeth allowed? You, sir, are a hypocrite.

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  Tosh and nonsense. Cite some reliable evidence to support your implausibly stupid view, please.
                  Do you have proof of what the Bible says is true? (Besides "God says so." ) No, it is called FAITH.

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  What, whereas worshipping a god made up by the mind of a long-dead primitive fool is so much more valid?
                  Finally questioning your faith are you?

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  One who follows God's commands. One who is saved and not going to Hell. The Orthodox cult are all doomed.
                  You know that the Orthodox church is the oldest church in the world, right? They use the same Bible as you so called "True" Christians (King James V Bible)

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  Let's see, does it go something like this: Britain was overrun with pagan scum, then the Godly Christians arrived and destroyed or converted them all, and the pagan gods did nothing to prevent this from happening because they don't actually exist?
                  Actually, no. In fact, most people converted to dodge taxes. FACT

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  How can you tell the difference between a god that doesn't do anything and a god that doesn't exist?
                  Again, it is called FAITH

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  Duh. Heaven's not in the sky, it's above the sky. You know, up above the blue stuff. Think about it.
                  Ah, I see. So Heaven is in the vacuum of Space? Interesting

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  OK, give us your rational, logical, adult argument for the existence of your stupid, pathetic false god.
                  I will when I feel you are mature enough to understand my argument, then I shall.

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  Enlighten me as to what that very special place is.
                  The officers that guard Buckingham Palace carry ceremonial swords. People are still knighted with a sword. Not to mention the various books are stories written about swords (Narsil-LotR, Peter's Sword-Narnia, The Sword of Martin-Redwall, and Excalibur-'King' Arthur.)

                  Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                  What do you think of the Rwandan genocide? Machetes played a major role in that, is that honourable enough for you? Or is Genghis Khan more the level of honour that you look up to?
                  Machetes are not swords. Using a sword means you are willing to get face to face with your foe. You might be better trained, but there is still a chance he can kill you. You stand face to face with him and fight on more or less equal terms. That is honour. Butchering helpless people is not.
                  Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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                  • #24
                    Re: From the Isle of the gods...

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold. I hurl it at you and your coven NOWNOWNOW in the Holy name of JESUS!
                    *Sighs* You are terribly mis-informed. Paganism is not witchcraft, and does not involve spell casting in any way, shape or form. Do some research before you make rash judgements that make you look like an idiot.


                    Also, to whoever changed the title of this thread, how very mature of you.
                    Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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                    • #25
                      Re: From the Isle of the gods...

                      Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
                      *Sighs* You are terribly mis-informed. Paganism is not witchcraft, and does not involve spell casting in any way, shape or form. Do some research before you make rash judgements that make you look like an idiot.
                      For those not fluent in Pagan, let me translate this into English.

                      "After watching Harry Potter films to get pumped up, we run giggling into the basement to cast love spells while listening to Morrissey."
                      The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.~Joel 1:12

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                      • #26
                        Re: From the Isle of the gods...

                        Originally posted by Cursed View Post
                        For those not fluent in Pagan, let me translate this into English.

                        "After watching Harry Potter films to get pumped up, we run giggling into the basement to cast love spells while listening to Morrissey."
                        Oh look. Another idiot just proved that he's an idiot

                        Firstly, I don't like the Harry Potter films. The first 4 books were good, but after the 5th I lost interest. Druids to not cast spells. A druid was a member of the priestly class in Britain, Ireland and Gaul and possibly other parts of Celtic western Europe during the Iron Age. Many of your popular ideas about the Druids are based on the misunderstandings and misconceptions of scholars 200 years ago.
                        Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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                        • #27
                          Re: From the Isle of the false gods...

                          You know what would be a brilliant addition to this website? Being able to reply to private messages

                          Seriously, it would make a great addition for you to join together on an even more personal level in your love of Yaweh and Jesus.

                          It would also allow people to argue their points and ask questions of people who seemingly have a deeper understanding of the faith.
                          Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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                          • #28
                            Re: From the Isle of the false gods...

                            Private Messaging is a privilege that must be earned by everybody on this website. Unsaved scum like yourself are not worthy of it. Maybe if you stop worshiping fairies and dragons and turn your life over to Jesus Christ, then we can talk.

                            Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                            • #29
                              Re: From the Isle of the gods...

                              Originally posted by Beli_Mawr View Post
                              Oh look. Another idiot just proved that he's an idiot
                              I understand why you strike out at me; you are ashamed of your spell casting and all of those evenings wasted on drugs hunched over a ouija board. It seems kind of silly now, doesn't it?

                              You feel threatened that I know the truth of the matter, so you attack to distract in hopes of concealing yourself. I'm wise to your witch tricks.

                              Firstly, I don't like the Harry Potter films. The first 4 books were good, but after the 5th I lost interest. Druids to not cast spells. A druid was a member of the priestly class in Britain, Ireland and Gaul and possibly other parts of Celtic western Europe during the Iron Age. Many of your popular ideas about the Druids are based on the misunderstandings and misconceptions of scholars 200 years ago.
                              You've read five Harry Potter books? That's worse than watching the movies, I fear it may already be too late for you.

                              Miss Beli Mawr, what makes you think you know more about druids than scholars from 200 years ago? They didn't spend their time playing with wands and reading fanciful children's books, that's for sure.
                              The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.~Joel 1:12

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                              • #30
                                Re: From the Isle of the false gods...

                                Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                                Please be respectful to other people, even if they are worthless unsaved scum.
                                Just because I do not agree with you, does not make me scum, thank you. I am a good person who has stopped one case of rape, prevented at least two more and saved a friend of mine from an abusive boyfriend. I am ashamed to say that the boyfriend was a friend of mine. Not any more.

                                I understand the point about private messaging. I guess it makes sense, as there are a lot of bible hating people out there, and proving your dedication to God saves you from the abusive people who might make your lives miserable. Smart system. I may have to implement it onto my own forum (Not faith related)
                                Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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