[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

Ok, True Disciple. I see what you are saying and it makes good sense. Thank you for that view, I do not mean to add anything to the scripture as I was under the impression that the most literal definition possible of the word "seeing" would be to speak of physical eyesight. I do not claim to be all knowing, as I said, these are merely my thoughts on the subject and i would like to hear yours.

As for the Deuteronomy verse I would not dream of saying it does not apply as that would obviously be heresy. My point was that possibly it could apply to us in a different way, that is, as a story from which we are meant to learn a lesson about our perfect God. An example of what my thought process in saying that is this:

Exodus 30:22 and following
Here God lays out a series of commands to Moses, these are commands that are explicitly stated in the Old testament. They are directed towards Moses himself and nobody else. That is why I myself am not expected to
"Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus two hundred and fifty shekels, etc"
It was my understanding that the same principle applied to the Deuteronomy verse. Could you please show me where I went wrong?

And I feel like I have been reasonable thus far. Am I right? I am trying to be as respectful as possible, but I still seem to have offended Hank. I would like it noted that it was not I that first mentioned "dirty parts"

[True Disciple]

Re: Howdy partners

Exodus 30:22 and following
Here God lays out a series of commands to Moses, these are commands that are explicitly stated in the Old testament. They are directed towards Moses himself and nobody else. That is why I myself am not expected to
"Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus two hundred and fifty shekels, etc"
It was my understanding that the same principle applied to the Deuteronomy verse. Could you please show me where I went wrong?

I don't understand you here. What makes you think that Exodus 30 wouldn't apply anymore now?

And I feel like I have been reasonable thus far. Am I right? I am trying to be as respectful as possible, but I still seem to have offended Hank. I would like it noted that it was not I that first mentioned "dirty parts"

I think our dear Brother Hank was shocked by your talk about paintball. You must realize that a lot of gay trolls try to infiltrate these forums each day, intent on spouting their filth all over these Godly pages. We have learned to be on our guard at all times.

[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

Oh, my mistake. Is it common practice for you to make such holy anointing oils?
If so, do each and every one of you also build Solomon's temple at some point in your life?

This is an interesting take on the Old Testament if so. One I would certainly like to hear more about.

And that is understandable, though I would encourage you're members such as Hank to calm down when speaking with new members. It is posts like that that make me want to leave these wise forums. If that were to happen then how could you teach me? That being said, there does seem to be an abundance of trolls here

[James Hutchins]

Re: Howdy partners

Oh, my mistake. Is it common practice for you to make such holy anointing oils?
If so, do each and every one of you also build Solomon's temple at some point in your life?

This is an interesting take on the Old Testament if so. One I would certainly like to hear more about.

And that is understandable, though I would encourage you're members such as Hank to calm down when speaking with new members. It is posts like that that make me want to leave these wise forums. If that were to happen then how could you teach me? That being said, there does seem to be an abundance of trolls here

Many a troll comes on, makes believe they are a Christian or an atheist, then the next thing you know., they spout off profanity and black on, white man love porno, orifices gaping. bodily fluids dripping. Quite disturbing.

[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

So it would seem. I would not enjoy that for a second.

sounds like /b/

[True Disciple]

Re: Howdy partners

Oh, my mistake. Is it common practice for you to make such holy anointing oils?
If so, do each and every one of you also build Solomon's temple at some point in your life?

We are supposed to follow secular laws:

1 Peter 2:13-15:
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

As construction activities on the Temple Mount are currently not allowed, this releases us of our duty to start with this project. Future generations, however, will at some point be compelled again to fulfill that part of Scripture.

Anyway, if you do not follow parts of the Old Testament like Deuteronomy 13, on what basis do you follow other parts? How do you decide which parts to follow?

And that is understandable, though I would encourage you're members such as Hank to calm down when speaking with new members. It is posts like that that make me want to leave these wise forums. If that were to happen then how could you teach me? That being said, there does seem to be an abundance of trolls here

The Love of God radiates from these forums. If you feel compelled to leave at any time, then clearly you are somehow insensitive to His Outstretched Hand. The following Passage then springs into action:

Matthew 7:6:
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

You did not mention the part about the oil? Is that something that I should begin to practice? I am curious because it would seem (because I feel I have been treated rudely) that I truly am insensitive to feeling the Love of God.

Is this because I have studied too much? How can I tell the difference? It would seem to my (obviously disillusioned) senses that one cannot decide who would be considered "swine" until they got to know them. And that in turning away so many people you would not get that chance? Where have I gone astray?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Howdy partners

So it would seem. I would not enjoy that for a second.

sounds like /b/

What is '/b/'?

[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

/b/ is the darkest, and most Satan ridden hell-hole on the entire internet. As it has been said, "/b/, You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."

This is a place that God fearing people should avoid, and the depravity of what you described reminded me of that horrid place.

[Hank]

Re: Howdy partners

So it would seem. I would not enjoy that for a second.

sounds like /b/

I am convinced this ones a troll. Only a matter of time before he starts posting goat gape and lemon partying faggit pictures.

Still hasnt told us if he is married, how many sons he has, what pie his wife makes best and what he best uses to discipline his wife and kids.

Faggit written all over him.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Howdy partners

/b/ is the darkest, and most Satan ridden hell-hole on the entire internet. As it has been said, "/b/, You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."

This is a place that God fearing people should avoid, and the depravity of what you described reminded me of that horrid place.

How come you know so much about it? I have never heard of it until now, it sounds horrid! I am glad I have never seen it.

[True Disciple]

Re: Howdy partners

You did not mention the part about the oil? Is that something that I should begin to practice?

I'm sorry, I shall type more slowly. What was the rituals with the anointing with oil about? Yes, the Temple Service. What doesn't exist anymore? the Temple. Are we allowed to rebuild the Temple? Currently we aren't. So, these parts in Exodus 30 fall under 1 Peter 2:13-15 as well.

I am curious because it would seem (because I feel I have been treated rudely) that I truly am insensitive to feeling the Love of God.

That is because you aren't a True Christian™, but a false christian who picks and chooses among Bible Verses to his own liking. The Bible says of teachers of false doctrines:

Philippians 3:16-19:
Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

Additionally, you still haven't answered my main question: which Bible Verse do you follow, and which don't you follow? And how do you make the distinction?

Is this because I have studied too much?

Maybe:

1 Corinthians 8:2-3:
And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

Instead of trying to obtain knowledge, you should love God.

How can I tell the difference? It would seem to my (obviously disillusioned) senses that one cannot decide who would be considered "swine" until they got to know them.

If you are untouched by God's Offer to you, then obviously any attempt to convince you to accept Jesus is bound to fail. That's what Matthew 7:6 is about.

Where have I gone astray?

The day you were born:

Psalm 58:3:
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

That's why you need to be born again!

[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

I am sorry, I remember you inquiring of me about my marital status.

As I have mentioned in previous posts I am in fact not married. I am a student at a university. However, I do have particular interest in a certain woman for hopeful marriage at some point after my education is complete. I feel as though she is a viable candidate for several reasons. First of all, she makes an AMAZING apple pie, I mean, wow if I could give some to you guys I totally would, every God fearing man should be blessed with such glorious blessings.

As far as discipline goes, she knows very well that I should only tell her something once. The situation is fairly complicated as we are not in fact married so that does not allow me all the options that I would usually be privy to. However, she is very submissive and 9 times out of 10 will do as I ask.

And as for the posting of offensive materials. You have my word that I will do no such thing. As I hope I have proven I come to refine my beliefs about our Lord, I do not have all the answers and you have already shown me some keen insight to the Good Book. I hope to continue learning from you.

[iThink]

Re: Howdy partners

I have been Born again before. But from what you are saying...it seems as though I have not. Did I do something wrong, how will I know? What must I do?

And in regards to the Old Testament...Did not Christ say in Matthew 5:17 that He came to "fulfill" the law? Are we not now under the "Law of Christ" as it is found in Galatians 6:2 and Matthew 22:37-39?

Or am I basing this off of a gross misunderstanding?

[True Disciple]

Re: Howdy partners

I have been Born again before. But from what you are saying...it seems as though I have not. Did I do something wrong, how will I know? What must I do?

Well, as I said, you have to follow the entire Bible, in accordance with earlier Scripture references I quoted. Otherwise, in Heaven you will be called least (Matthew 5:19).

Additionally, consider the following Verse:

James 2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

So, because you have not followed the Law at some points, you are considered to have broken it on all points. So yes, you did something wrong.

And in regards to the Old Testament...Did not Christ say in Matthew 5:17 that He came to "fulfill" the law? Are we not now under the "Law of Christ" as it is found in Galatians 6:2 and Matthew 22:37-39?

Fulfilling the law is not the same as abolishing the Law, as Jesus patiently explains in Matthew 5:17-18.

Or am I basing this off of a gross misunderstanding?

It seems you are. Please tell me, do you even follow any Part of the Old Testament?