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  • Tim Collins
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    • Sep 2011
    • 3

    #1

    A little bit confused

    Today I was reading Acts and I was a little bit confused about Saul's trip to Damascus. In Acts chapter 9 the people with could not hear Jesus, but in chapter 22 they could hear Jesus.

    The test itself from "biblelookup.com":

    Version: KJV

    Act 9:2 - Act 9:12

    2. And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. 3. And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4. And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5. And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 6. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. 7. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. 8. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought [him] into Damascus. 9. And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink. 10. And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I [am here], Lord. 11. And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for [one] called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, 12. And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting [his] hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

    Act 22:4 - Act 22:14

    4. And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. 5. As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished. 6. And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. 7. And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 8. And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. 9. And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. 10. And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. 11. And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus. 12. And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there], 13. Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. 14. And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
  • Deaner
    Christ's Love Messenger
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 5932

    #2
    Re: A little bit confused

    Originally posted by ToaSTeVeRYDaY View Post
    The test itself from "biblelookup.com":
    You can't even spell properly; why should I argue things with you that affect the outcome of the world and the history of Man himself?

    Get off the floor and go have a nap. Are you a negro sucking on a mouthful of khat leaves?

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    • Tim Collins
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      • Sep 2011
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      #3
      Re: A little bit confused

      Originally posted by Deaner View Post
      You can't even spell properly; why should I argue things with you that affect the outcome of the world and the history of Man himself?

      Get off the floor and go have a nap. Are you a negro sucking on a mouthful of khat leaves?
      You are absolutely right, I meant "site" instead of "test." It was incorrect word usage, "test" is spelled correctly...

      I don't see a way to edit my original post, I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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      • Pastor Ezekiel
        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
         
        • Sep 2006
        • 78556

        #4
        Re: A little bit confused

        Originally posted by ToaSTeVeRYDaY View Post
        You are absolutely right, I meant "site" instead of "test." It was incorrect word usage, "test" is spelled correctly...

        I don't see a way to edit my original post, I apologize for the misunderstanding.
        The misunderstanding is your godmocking attitude. This is the INTRODUCTIONS section, not the ask stupid questions section. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

        If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

        If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

        You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

        Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.
        Who Will Jesus Damn?

        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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        • Tim Collins
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          • Sep 2011
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          #5
          Re: A little bit confused

          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
          The misunderstanding is your godmocking attitude. This is the INTRODUCTIONS section, not the ask stupid questions section. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

          If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

          If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

          You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

          Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.
          My name is Tim Campbell. I most recently attended World Outreach Worship Center (a Church of God) before moving to VT for college (where I have been for two weeks and have not found a church). I grew up in a Baptist church, and it was there I was saved. I did not have strong intentions of becoming a regular member of this church (because I do prefer to attend services on Sunday and Wednesday), so I thought this would be unnecessary.

          I did use the search function and did not find another topic based on my question. However, one of your links says that the bible should be interpreted "as a child would." As someone barely more than a child myself, I came here seeking an answer

          I thought I was being more than respectful to Deaner, but I apologize for any disrespect.

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          • MitzaLizalor
            Completely CRAZY for the Lord
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2010
            • 14642

            #6
            Re: A little bit confused

            Originally posted by Tim Collins View Post
            Today I was reading Acts and I was a little bit confused about Saul's trip to Damascus. In Acts chapter 9 the people with could not hear Jesus
            Acts 9:7

            Are you mad or something?

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            • Ezekiel Bathfire
              Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
              Christ's Rottweiler
               
              • Jan 2008
              • 22925

              #7
              Re: A little bit confused

              Acts:9:7. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
              and
              Acts:22:9. And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.


              These are both part of God's Inspired Word and are therefore True. So we must seek an explanation or deem it a Godly Mystery to be believed without question.


              Myself, I see no contradiction.


              Acts:9:7 is the voice of a narrator – who this was (for it was not Paul) we do not know. It was probably his secretary typing it out as it happened.


              So, his secretary actually saw it from her point of view – she saw some men who heard something. (The men were probably standing around saying, “Who said that???” but they could have been saying it about anything. Someone might have said, "Hey, Paul's fallen of his horse!" or something.)


              In
              Acts:22:9 it is Paul himself who recalls what happened. (He really is writing this bit.) Now, if you are in the middle of nowhere and feeling quite well and looking forward to persecuting some Christians, then you are not expecting anything to happen. Yet suddenly Jesus Speaks!!!

              Now, what’s going to happen? You are going to fall off your horse and start listening to Him, not concentrating on what some unchosen heathens are doing.


              Paul was writhing on the ground, twitching and foaming at the mouth, when he comes round, he would say to them, “Jesus! Did you hear that? It was Jesus!”


              Now this is the important part – He does not ask that question to his secretary – she is there to record the narrative, not be a part of it! So Paul asks some of the others if they had heard anything. They were polite and knew that this was a personal revelation, so they said “No.”
              So that is all he knows.

              He then asked if they had seen any bright lights and they, not wanting to make him appear mad, sort of nodded to each other and said, “Yes, that’s right Paul, we saw the light.”


              Case closed.

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              Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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              • MitzaLizalor
                Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2010
                • 14642

                #8
                Re: A little bit confused

                Thank you for your post Mr Bathfire. I now understand that they could hear that there was a voice, but could not discern what it was speaking?
                Is that like Jeremiah 5:21? Those people were not deaf but could not discern what God was saying. Paul had been like that, hadn't he?

                The prophecies of Jeremiah brought God's word to those people just like Paul (née Saul) would bring His word to the people of his time and to the whole world!

                Am I understanding correctly Mr Bathfire?

                God continues:

                Jeremiah 5:22 Feare yee not mee, saith the Lord ? Will yee not tremble at my presence, which haue placed the sand for the bound of the sea, by a perpetuall decree that it cannot passe it, and though the waues thereof tosse themselues, yet can they not preuaile, though they roare, yet can they not passe ouer it?
                ©1611

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                • SUV
                  True Christian™ Princess
                  The Driving Force behind RA12
                  Have at it, anytime!
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 11027

                  #9
                  Re: A little bit confused

                  "A little bit confused" - ?

                  But we are ALL a little bit confused! God has planned it that way for us!

                  Now stick with the program. Don't join the Religion of God-Damned, God-less athianism in an attempt to go figger it all out

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